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Title: Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out
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URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general85/obs.htm
Published: Mar 13, 2009
Author: Alan Korwin
Post Date: 2009-03-13 08:01:18 by Mind_Virus
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Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out Alan Korwin - Author Gun Laws Of America GunLaws.com 3-12-9 Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did. Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens. Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity. It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse): Rifles (or copies or duplicates): M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1; AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; Olympic Arms PCR; AR70, Calico Liberty , Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC, Hi-Point20Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ). Pistols (or copies or duplicates): Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA, TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi. Shotguns (or copies or duplicates): Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs): A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has: (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below), (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud. Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles). A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has: (i) a second pistol grip, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a barrel shroud or (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds. A semiautomatic shotgun with: (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below), (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder. Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits. Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General." Note that Obama's pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event." In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public. The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent. Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm Forward or send to every gun owner you know... Watch This, If You Want More Proof: YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ! www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv3p2lLmjGk A partial list of gun rights groups: Gun Owners of America gunowners.org/ Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership www.jpfo.org/ FREEDOM=GUNS www.tcsn.net/doncicci/freedom.htm National Rifle Association www.nra.org/ Second Amendment Committee www.libertygunrights.com/ Second Amendment Foundation www.saf.org/ Second Amendment Sisters www.2asisters.org/ Women Against Gun Control www.wagc.com/
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#2. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
Let them do this, or try and do this. If this gets rolling it will become a unifying cause and the nation will finally fracture like an egg shell. Obama, Pelosi, Holder and all the other leftists posing as politicians will see a backlash in '10 like nothing seen before.
Note... All the "important" people have muscle, carrying guns, to protect them from the unarmed masses. Just look around Buckwheat.
Men with guns surround Him because He is loved by the people.
Sad when the elite are so feared of the unwashed masses. Yet they seek and lust after the wealth and power that enables them to grind the "little people" under their feet.
Yet they seek and lust after the wealth and power that enables them to grind the "little people" under their feet. They are psychotic and this is the behavior of a psychotic. They fear EVERYONE. Their lives are lived in fear and hatred. It expresses itself as the compulsion, nay obsession, with eliminating their enemies which, because they truly are psychotic, are greater than all the population of the entire world, because they are phantoms in their own mind. They are quite and truly insane. They are so insane that they could read this true statement and laugh because locked in their pathology they also see themselves as the most sane. Yet their actions and creations betray them for what they are; they can only destroy, not create. "Ye shall know them by their fruits." Those that aid and abet them fashion only a later death for themselves. The so-called New World Order, if allowed to happen, will be a short-lived totalitarian regime which will collapse unto itself taking many BILLIONS of lives with them. That is the reality. Inaction is tantamount to supporting this evil cabal. Support those who oppose them. Support those groups standing up. While I believe fervently in the individual rights and dignity of each individual man, woman, and child upon this hellish sphere our strength now is in numbers working together to turn back the tide of darkness. Be not without hope as even in this late hour our strength is greater than theirs, and that they know, and their only grip is through our own fear. Recall well that our founders knew there are fates worse than death. The kind of slavery and degradation these psychotics bring is one such fate. Realize that you are a powerful being who CAN have a positive effect, and if enough people rise above their own fears we may yet win the day. The prize is a sane civilization where ALL may walk free.
Excellent. Thank you
I knew I should have picked up that AR-15 at the gun show over a year ago now. I didn't have a secure place to keep it, and was worried how much that would set me back.
AR prices are all over the board today. Try thehighroad.org and look for a local FTF seller. There are people who are hurting out there and have some great deals on weapons and the food to feed'em. I just traded a Browning Citori .28 gauge, skeet model, for a pre-ban Colt AR. You just have to watch the ads to find good deals, and cash does talk.
I still don't have a secure location to keep a prize like that. Liability is a bitch, I'm still thinking along the lines of a Marlin Model 60 lightweight that holds like 18 rounds.
For close in work nothing beats a good Shotgun or a model 1911 A-1 or both. For longer work, as long as it's not a firefight in your neighborhood, a Springfield Armory Model 1903 - very accurate and reliable. All can be had reasonably.
I'm only looking for a firearm to defend myself against someone trying to force their way into or already in my home. I don't care about acursy at 500 yards, somebody 500 yards away would have to be pretty fucking dastardly to present an immediate threat. Right, buddy?
Then a Remington 870 with the 18 inch barrel (the shortest allowed a civilian by law I believe. There are shorter barrelled versions but I believe that they are only available to the JBT's). I guarantee that someone taking a load of double ought in the face is not going to be an immediate threat. And to spiff it up: A few accessories to make it more functional for home defense.
What does it weigh and how much recoil does it have?
Just looked it up: 7 1/4 pounds with the 18 inch barrel.
The Model 60 is two pounds lighter, I remain convinced that it is the superior firearm for my needs.
Here's another option: Mossberg 500 Road Blocker. 5 3/4 Pounds with the 18.5 inch barrel. The .410 version for Home Security is on the same specs page. Just click on the specs tab. Needless to say a .410 has a lot less kick. Photo of Gun. I took the photo off because it was stretching the thread too badly.
That looks promising. Can I get it as semi-auto with short rifle stock with pearl inlays?
Here's a semi for ya: Mossberg 930 Tactical 18 1/2 inch barrel Mossberg Turkey Gun (24 inch barrel): Semi-Auto Pistol Grip with Butt
You're not even listening. I aint a'scared of ducks. You seem like a bright sort, care to help me patent the decoy ATM?
#52. To: Dakmar (#51)
Hmmmm? Decoy ATM huh? Goin' Snake huntin'? Look at the 930 Tactical. There's your 8 shot semi-auto defensive shield.
If you're looking for something handy, "The Judge" weighs only 32 ounces. Very effective close range and out to 7 to 12 yards. It chambers both .410 shot shells and .45 Colt cartridges.
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Sad when the elite are so feared of the unwashed masses.
#26. To: Original_Intent (#19)
Inaction is tantamount to supporting this evil cabal. Support those who oppose them. Support those groups standing up. While I believe fervently in the individual rights and dignity of each individual man, woman, and child upon this hellish sphere our strength now is in numbers working together to turn back the tide of darkness. Be not without hope as even in this late hour our strength is greater than theirs, and that they know, and their only grip is through our own fear. Recall well that our founders knew there are fates worse than death. The kind of slavery and degradation these psychotics bring is one such fate. Realize that you are a powerful being who CAN have a positive effect, and if enough people rise above their own fears we may yet win the day. The prize is a sane civilization where ALL may walk free.
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I'm only looking for a firearm to defend myself against someone trying to force their way into or already in my home. I don't care about acursy at 500 yards, somebody 500 yards away would have to be pretty fucking dastardly to present an immediate threat. Right, buddy?
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Just looked it up: 7 1/4 pounds with the 18 inch barrel.
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#51. To: Original_Intent (#50)
This gas-operated autoloading shotgun excels in every environment you do, from walking cornfields to sitting in stands to hunkering down in a marsh
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#61. To: Dakmar (#51)
I'm only looking for a firearm to defend myself against someone trying to force their way into or already in my home.
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