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Title: 9/11 UAL 175 Plane on Radar AFTER It Has 'Crashed' Into The WTC; (MSNBC)
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Published: Mar 16, 2009
Author: msnbc
Post Date: 2009-03-16 13:04:41 by Artisan
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youtube link

http://conspiracyrealitytv.com/911-ual-175-plane-on-radar-after-it-has-crashed-into-the-wtc/

Kudos to SEATNINEB for this. Check forum here at: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=14399

FAA radar is tracking, in real time, flight 175 after it has supposedly crashed into the WTC. This is perhaps an hour later. Although many people do not believe an aircraft hit the Pentagon or crashed in Shanksville, they still cannot accept that no plane hit the WTC. Perhaps this may help.

3 IFR aircraft in the air in a 30 mile radius of New york city is consistent with one hour of diversions and forced landings.

One hour before you would expect a very large multiple of 3 aircraft to be in the air. NY has several incredibly busy airports.Check anytime on FLIGHT AWARE and count the aircraft within a 30 mile radius of NY. There should be 60 to 100


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#3. To: Artisan (#0)

any debunkers?

Oh, they'll be out in force. It might take them a day or two, but for every new revelation shining light on the 911 Inside Job they have a spin very quickly. Either they will attack the film as altered or they'll have some other spin such as the Radar was incompetent.

They won't hold water but for the Sheeple who don't want to look at reality they will grasp at any spin straw to avoid looking. They want the "Nightly Nooze" to tell them what they think.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-16   13:13:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#3)

if the identifying radar system is in real time as he claimed then it is pretty damning evidence of remote controlled drone planes. I don't know antyhing about such systems which is why i pinged the pilots. Anyway, we all know the truth but to what end ? There is more than enough evidence but most politicians, clergy, academics and influence peddlers won't look at or acknowledge any of this. And time has gone on and it's almost 10 8 yrs past.

Anyway, it's fun to expose their lies. people do know, in general, but what comes of it? we shall watch.

Artisan  posted on  2009-03-16   13:21:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#4)

I'm confused, "tracked on RADAR" 1 hr after it hit the WTC?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-16   13:58:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Itistoolate (#6)

I'm confused

Only if you believe this shit are you...

war  posted on  2009-03-16   14:04:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#7)

Only if you believe this shit

The shit in the video or the Gov't shit?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-16   14:10:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Itistoolate (#8)

The government's shit is mosty likely the closest to what happened. If anything got covered up it's how little attention the Boosh's were paying when it went down...

war  posted on  2009-03-16   14:48:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#11)

Thank you for proving my prediction correct.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-16   14:52:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#14)

Thank you for proving my prediction correct.

Your prediction was akin to predicting that if you pulled your pants down and tried to blow yourself in Times Square people would look.

PS: Claiming that "WE BRUNG DOWN THE TOWERS!!!!" is the same thing as self- felating in Times Square.

war  posted on  2009-03-16   14:54:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: war (#17)

Explain this. See how the top of the tower is tilting on an angle? Simple physics would determine that the top of the tower should have toppled over and tumbled, as there is less resistance to the air than there would be to the steel and concrete below it, thus it would have continued it's rotational movement and toppled over.

Why did it all of a sudden drop like a rock straight down through the steel and concrete rather than simply topple over as it appears ready to do in the following picture?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-17   10:41:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: FormerLurker (#59)

Why did it all of a sudden drop like a rock straight down through the steel and concrete rather than simply topple over as it appears ready to do in the following picture?

You mean like what happens in a controlled demolition? Well, this is different....the plane hit the building (which was specifically designed to withstand the impact of a direct hit by a plane), and the plane had fuel (no matter that the fire was limited to just a couple floors, as opposed to other towers which have also had intense fire but never collapsed)....and because of the intense flames (limited to two floors?)....the structural beams just melted.......and can't you just believe these people already?!

: )

litus  posted on  2009-03-17   11:05:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: litus (#68)

You forgot that it was Magickal Jet Fuel™ that can change properties at will and burn hotter than the sun. And they only ever made one batch of it and it was all used that day as evidenced by the fact that other skyscrapers have burned longer and fully engulfed since then, yet none of them fell. Not one. And some had burned before that day too and not one of those fell either. Steel skyscrapers just can't handle that Magickal Jet Fuel™.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-17   11:09:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: James Deffenbach (#73)

You forgot that it was Magickal Jet Fuel™ that can change properties at will and burn hotter than the sun. And they only ever made one batch of it and it was all used that day as evidenced by the fact that other skyscrapers have burned longer and fully engulfed since then, yet none of them fell. Not one. And some had burned before that day too and not one of those fell either. Steel skyscrapers just can't handle that Magickal Jet Fuel™.

All this makes me question an engineer who would design a building to take the direct impact of a jet and not take into account for that jet to be able to hit the building it had to be flying and be loaded with FUEL.

At the very least that explains alot of engineering blunders.LOL.

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-03-17   14:09:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: phantom patriot (#130)

All this makes me question an engineer who would design a building to take the direct impact of a jet and not take into account for that jet to be able to hit the building it had to be flying and be loaded with FUEL.

Oh, they did take it into account. The government and its shills are just lying about it. Why would any sane person believe that KEROSENE could cause steel-framed skyscrapers to fall? Many skyscrapers have had fires as intense, and even more intense, and for a longer period of time, yet the only ones that ever fell were the ones on 9/11. None before or since.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-17   14:18:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: James Deffenbach (#134)

Oh, they did take it into account. The government and its shills are just lying about it. Why would any sane person believe that KEROSENE could cause steel-framed skyscrapers to fall? Many skyscrapers have had fires as intense, and even more intense, and for a longer period of time, yet the only ones that ever fell were the ones on 9/11. None before or since.

Yeah, isn't that ironic? I have seen the evidence that both sides present in this. In my heart I have to believe there was something evil at work here and I'm not refering to those that have been accused of the crime.

You know what I mean.

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-03-17   14:31:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: phantom patriot (#137) (Edited)

Yeah, isn't that ironic? I have seen the evidence that both sides present in this. In my heart I have to believe there was something evil at work here and I'm not refering to those that have been accused of the crime.

You know what I mean.

The ones who are evil are the ones who blindly accept the government's lame-@$$ story about how kerosene burned down steel-framed skyscrapers. And if not evil then incredibly stupid or gullible and naive. I think it is the latter in most cases because I don't like to ascribe evil to people who just blindly accept the government's story no matter how stupid and far fetched it sounds.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-17   14:55:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: James Deffenbach (#138)

The ones who are evil are the ones who blindly accept the government's lame-@$$ story about how kerosene burned down steel-framed skyscrapers. And if not evil then incredibly stupid or gullible and naive. I think it is the latter in most cases because I don't like to ascribe evil to people who just blindly accept the government's story no matter how stupid and far fetched it sounds.

Yeah, really, What the hell happened? I don't know what your age is but when I was growing up we were taught NOT to trust the government.

I guess their propaganda paid off.

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-03-17   15:02:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: phantom patriot (#140) (Edited)

I don't know what your age is but when I was growing up we were taught NOT to trust the government.

I am old enough to know that you can't trust the government. They even allow a man to be president who refuses to show his actual birth certificate. One who has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars of SOMEONE'S money to keep it hidden. You have to ask yourself why he refuses to spend ten or fifteen bucks to produce it instead of hundreds of thousands to keep it hidden. And it could be for one or maybe two reasons. One reason is that it could show that he was actually not born in the US at all but in Kenya. Another reason could be that it might show that the man he claims was his father was actually not his real father. I can't think of any reason besides those two that he refuses to show the actual birth certificate.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-17   15:26:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: James Deffenbach (#145)

I am old enough to know that you can't trust the government. They even allow a man to be president who refuses to show his actual birth certificate. One who has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars of SOMEONE'S money to keep it hidden.

Well, that's a whole other story. At the very least they should be made to prove they are eligible for any office while they file their paperwork just like the rest of us would have to do.

One of Reagans quotes I really like is trust but verify. You'd think with all the smart asses in Washington someone would have thought of that.

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-03-17   15:37:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: phantom patriot (#147) (Edited)

Well, that's a whole other story. At the very least they should be made to prove they are eligible for any office while they file their paperwork just like the rest of us would have to do.

The rest of us have to show an actual birth certificate to get a passport. Yet the Obamasiah can get someone to Photoshop some bs "CERTIFICATION" of Live Birth. I reckon he wanted to prove he wasn't hatched or something but it doesn't prove he was born in Hawaii like his disciples claim. This document is usually given to parties that don't have a proper hospital birth certificate and it is given based on a statement of one relative only. Even the state of Hawaii doesn't give full credit to these documents.


The primary documents used to show you are of age and a qualified native Hawaiian are:

* A certified copy of Certificate of Birth; * A certified copy of Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, including testimonies; or * A certified copy of Certificate of Delayed Birth.

You will need the certified birth certificates for:

* Yourself * Your biological father; and * Your biological mother

The state Department of Health, (DOH), Vital Records Section, records documents by island and district (geographically) and by the date of the event (chronologically).

If your biological parents' documents don't clearly prove that you have at least 50 percent Hawaiian ancestry, you will also need certified birth certificates for:

* Your biological father's parents; and * Your biological mother's parents.

In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.


This is what HAWAII says about the difference between the pos the Obamaphiles foisted off on the gullible saps who worship him and the Certificate of Live Birth. What he posted, or had someone to post on the internet, is not acceptable to Hawaii for proof of someone claiming to be Hawaiian.

Applying for Hawaiian Home Lands

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-17   15:41:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: James Deffenbach (#148)

Even the state of Hawaii doesn't give full credit to these documents.

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