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Title: 9/11 UAL 175 Plane on Radar AFTER It Has 'Crashed' Into The WTC; (MSNBC)
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Published: Mar 16, 2009
Author: msnbc
Post Date: 2009-03-16 13:04:41 by Artisan
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youtube link

http://conspiracyrealitytv.com/911-ual-175-plane-on-radar-after-it-has-crashed-into-the-wtc/

Kudos to SEATNINEB for this. Check forum here at: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=14399

FAA radar is tracking, in real time, flight 175 after it has supposedly crashed into the WTC. This is perhaps an hour later. Although many people do not believe an aircraft hit the Pentagon or crashed in Shanksville, they still cannot accept that no plane hit the WTC. Perhaps this may help.

3 IFR aircraft in the air in a 30 mile radius of New york city is consistent with one hour of diversions and forced landings.

One hour before you would expect a very large multiple of 3 aircraft to be in the air. NY has several incredibly busy airports.Check anytime on FLIGHT AWARE and count the aircraft within a 30 mile radius of NY. There should be 60 to 100


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#3. To: Artisan (#0)

any debunkers?

Oh, they'll be out in force. It might take them a day or two, but for every new revelation shining light on the 911 Inside Job they have a spin very quickly. Either they will attack the film as altered or they'll have some other spin such as the Radar was incompetent.

They won't hold water but for the Sheeple who don't want to look at reality they will grasp at any spin straw to avoid looking. They want the "Nightly Nooze" to tell them what they think.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-16   13:13:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#3)

if the identifying radar system is in real time as he claimed then it is pretty damning evidence of remote controlled drone planes. I don't know antyhing about such systems which is why i pinged the pilots. Anyway, we all know the truth but to what end ? There is more than enough evidence but most politicians, clergy, academics and influence peddlers won't look at or acknowledge any of this. And time has gone on and it's almost 10 8 yrs past.

Anyway, it's fun to expose their lies. people do know, in general, but what comes of it? we shall watch.

Artisan  posted on  2009-03-16   13:21:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#4)

I'm confused, "tracked on RADAR" 1 hr after it hit the WTC?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-16   13:58:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Itistoolate (#6)

I'm confused

Only if you believe this shit are you...

war  posted on  2009-03-16   14:04:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#7)

Only if you believe this shit

The shit in the video or the Gov't shit?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-16   14:10:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Itistoolate (#8)

The government's shit is mosty likely the closest to what happened. If anything got covered up it's how little attention the Boosh's were paying when it went down...

war  posted on  2009-03-16   14:48:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#11)

Thank you for proving my prediction correct.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-16   14:52:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#14)

Thank you for proving my prediction correct.

Your prediction was akin to predicting that if you pulled your pants down and tried to blow yourself in Times Square people would look.

PS: Claiming that "WE BRUNG DOWN THE TOWERS!!!!" is the same thing as self- felating in Times Square.

war  posted on  2009-03-16   14:54:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: war (#17)

Explain this. See how the top of the tower is tilting on an angle? Simple physics would determine that the top of the tower should have toppled over and tumbled, as there is less resistance to the air than there would be to the steel and concrete below it, thus it would have continued it's rotational movement and toppled over.

Why did it all of a sudden drop like a rock straight down through the steel and concrete rather than simply topple over as it appears ready to do in the following picture?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-17   10:41:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: FormerLurker (#59)

Why did it all of a sudden drop like a rock straight down through the steel and concrete rather than simply topple over as it appears ready to do in the following picture?

You mean like what happens in a controlled demolition? Well, this is different....the plane hit the building (which was specifically designed to withstand the impact of a direct hit by a plane), and the plane had fuel (no matter that the fire was limited to just a couple floors, as opposed to other towers which have also had intense fire but never collapsed)....and because of the intense flames (limited to two floors?)....the structural beams just melted.......and can't you just believe these people already?!

: )

litus  posted on  2009-03-17   11:05:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: litus (#68)

Two Floors My Ass...

war  posted on  2009-03-17   11:12:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: war (#77)

Yes. That's mightily impressive, a fire like that which can bring down a building onto its own feet.

Have you see the photos of the other skyscrapers, literally in hell fire throughout, yet those buildings stand?

I have.

litus  posted on  2009-03-17   11:14:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: litus (#79)

Yes. That's mightily impressive, a fire like that which can bring down a building onto its own feet.

A) The fire did not act alone.

B) It did not fall into it's own feet. 1 fell into the DB Building* and 2 fell into the south facade of 7.

I worked at 1 Liberty Plaza on 9/11 and did diasster recovery work that necessitated me going into the building a week or so later. You could clearly see that the towers fell over as well as down. Windows in about 20 floors of the western facade of 1 Liberty were gone...

Piece of WTC 1 in DB building...

YO can see parts of 2 on 7's footprint as well as the damage to 1 Liberty.

war  posted on  2009-03-17   11:28:34 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: war (#93)

YO can see parts of 2 on 7's footprint as well as the damage to 1 Liberty.

It fell straight down war, you can't deny that fact. So yes, it fell into it's own footprint, but sure there will be debris in the immediate area. What did you expect it to do, drill a whole for itself into the ground and fall into it?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-17   11:35:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: FormerLurker (#98)

It fell straight down war,

Despite all the photo evidence that I just provided you to the contrary?

Did the conspirators come in with a huge crain when noone was looking and put that piece of WTC 1 into the DB Building and take that huge assed scoop out of it as well?

war  posted on  2009-03-17   11:51:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: war (#101)

Despite all the photo evidence that I just provided you to the contrary?

You fool, do you see any buildings with the top section of the WTC impaled into them? The fact that debris was blown outwards is not the same as the tower falling over.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-17   12:49:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: FormerLurker (#115)

The fact that debris was blown outwards is not the same as the tower falling over.

Wha...huh?

I challenge you to post a pic of any controlled demolition wherein the debris field was as far outside of its paramerers as it was at WTC...hell...the collpase of WTC 2 demolished the atrium of the WFC across the street...

When Pittsburgh had 3 Rivers Stadium brought down it stood yards from the new field which wasn't even scratched...

war  posted on  2009-03-17   13:02:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: war (#119) (Edited)

So what exactly are you trying to say here? Did it topple over or did it fall straight down into its own footprint?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-17   13:19:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: FormerLurker (#122)

So what exactly are you trying to say here? Did it topple over or did it fall straight down into its own footprint?

It collapsed in the manner gravity and then momentum affected it...to all points...

war  posted on  2009-03-17   13:21:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: war (#124) (Edited)

It collapsed in the manner gravity and then momentum affected it...to all points...

So it fell because of gravity. Hmmm, well why didn't it fall as soon as they built it then? Those 100 or so of UNDAMAGED floors dissolved into thin air, where even butter would have offered more resistance.

They must have been pretty weak huh. Good thing nobody ever jumped up and down or the whole thing would have gone down sooner, right?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-17   13:25:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: FormerLurker (#126)

Hmmm, well why didn't it fall as soon as they built it then?

Your questions are devolving further into stupidity. Engineering kept it standing...just as your legs do for you...take out your ligature around your knee and see if you don't topple over from being top heavy. IN the case of the WTC, floor trusses acted as ligature.

war  posted on  2009-03-17   14:07:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: war (#129) (Edited)

Do you see where I'm going with this? If the top of the tower tilted to its side then dropped straight down, the only explanation would be that the core was intact but bent and that the top of the tower slid down the core. So if the core was intact, where IS IT? It simply vanished, as if it wasn't even there.

There are some videos which show a "spire" like core structure reaching up to mid level of the tower, then simply vaporizing 20 seconds or so afterwards.

Hmmm. What do you make of that? Did you find any NIST data that speaks about that topic?

And BTW, if the top of the tower slid down the core, how could it have fallen at virtual free fall speed where there would have been tremendous friction involved slowing down its descent? In addition to the time required to overcome the resistance to the steel core, what about the time required to smash the steel and concrete of each of the 100 floors below it? It did all that in about a second, subtracting the time it would have taken for it to fall through thin air.

C'mon Mr. Wizard, give us some physics here.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-18   17:06:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#252. To: FormerLurker, war (#250)

C'mon Mr. Wizard, give us some physics here.

He probably thinks you mean psychic, he is that dumb.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-03-18 18:22:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: FormerLurker (#250)

Do you see where I'm going with this? If the top of the tower tilted to its side then dropped straight down, the only explanation would be that the core was intact but bent and that the top of the tower slid down the core. So if the core was intact, where IS IT? It simply vanished, as if it wasn't even there.

Dude...you are so fucking babbling. top trying to ***think*** and start using REALITY.wtc floor construction

This is what the floorstructure of the WTC looked like around the core:

As you can seee, there were elevators within the core. Furthermore, the core was reliant on the exterior support beams to relieve it of being the lone horizontal load bearing mechanism. Once that exterior had been breached and then the internal bracing compromised, there was no other outcome available but destruction.

war  posted on  2009-03-19 09:13:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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