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Title: 9/11 UAL 175 Plane on Radar AFTER It Has 'Crashed' Into The WTC; (MSNBC)
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Published: Mar 16, 2009
Author: msnbc
Post Date: 2009-03-16 13:04:41 by Artisan
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youtube link

http://conspiracyrealitytv.com/911-ual-175-plane-on-radar-after-it-has-crashed-into-the-wtc/

Kudos to SEATNINEB for this. Check forum here at: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=14399

FAA radar is tracking, in real time, flight 175 after it has supposedly crashed into the WTC. This is perhaps an hour later. Although many people do not believe an aircraft hit the Pentagon or crashed in Shanksville, they still cannot accept that no plane hit the WTC. Perhaps this may help.

3 IFR aircraft in the air in a 30 mile radius of New york city is consistent with one hour of diversions and forced landings.

One hour before you would expect a very large multiple of 3 aircraft to be in the air. NY has several incredibly busy airports.Check anytime on FLIGHT AWARE and count the aircraft within a 30 mile radius of NY. There should be 60 to 100


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#3. To: Artisan (#0)

any debunkers?

Oh, they'll be out in force. It might take them a day or two, but for every new revelation shining light on the 911 Inside Job they have a spin very quickly. Either they will attack the film as altered or they'll have some other spin such as the Radar was incompetent.

They won't hold water but for the Sheeple who don't want to look at reality they will grasp at any spin straw to avoid looking. They want the "Nightly Nooze" to tell them what they think.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-16   13:13:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#3)

if the identifying radar system is in real time as he claimed then it is pretty damning evidence of remote controlled drone planes. I don't know antyhing about such systems which is why i pinged the pilots. Anyway, we all know the truth but to what end ? There is more than enough evidence but most politicians, clergy, academics and influence peddlers won't look at or acknowledge any of this. And time has gone on and it's almost 10 8 yrs past.

Anyway, it's fun to expose their lies. people do know, in general, but what comes of it? we shall watch.

Artisan  posted on  2009-03-16   13:21:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#4)

I'm confused, "tracked on RADAR" 1 hr after it hit the WTC?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-16   13:58:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Itistoolate (#6)

I'm confused

Only if you believe this shit are you...

war  posted on  2009-03-16   14:04:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#7)

Only if you believe this shit

The shit in the video or the Gov't shit?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-16   14:10:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Itistoolate (#8)

The government's shit is mosty likely the closest to what happened. If anything got covered up it's how little attention the Boosh's were paying when it went down...

war  posted on  2009-03-16   14:48:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#11)

Thank you for proving my prediction correct.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-16   14:52:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#14)

Thank you for proving my prediction correct.

Your prediction was akin to predicting that if you pulled your pants down and tried to blow yourself in Times Square people would look.

PS: Claiming that "WE BRUNG DOWN THE TOWERS!!!!" is the same thing as self- felating in Times Square.

war  posted on  2009-03-16   14:54:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: war (#17)

Explain this. See how the top of the tower is tilting on an angle? Simple physics would determine that the top of the tower should have toppled over and tumbled, as there is less resistance to the air than there would be to the steel and concrete below it, thus it would have continued it's rotational movement and toppled over.

Why did it all of a sudden drop like a rock straight down through the steel and concrete rather than simply topple over as it appears ready to do in the following picture?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-17   10:41:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: FormerLurker (#59)

Why did it all of a sudden drop like a rock straight down through the steel and concrete rather than simply topple over as it appears ready to do in the following picture?

You mean like what happens in a controlled demolition? Well, this is different....the plane hit the building (which was specifically designed to withstand the impact of a direct hit by a plane), and the plane had fuel (no matter that the fire was limited to just a couple floors, as opposed to other towers which have also had intense fire but never collapsed)....and because of the intense flames (limited to two floors?)....the structural beams just melted.......and can't you just believe these people already?!

: )

litus  posted on  2009-03-17   11:05:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: litus (#68)

Two Floors My Ass...

war  posted on  2009-03-17   11:12:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: war (#77)

Yes. That's mightily impressive, a fire like that which can bring down a building onto its own feet.

Have you see the photos of the other skyscrapers, literally in hell fire throughout, yet those buildings stand?

I have.

litus  posted on  2009-03-17   11:14:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: litus (#79)

Yes. That's mightily impressive, a fire like that which can bring down a building onto its own feet.

A) The fire did not act alone.

B) It did not fall into it's own feet. 1 fell into the DB Building* and 2 fell into the south facade of 7.

I worked at 1 Liberty Plaza on 9/11 and did diasster recovery work that necessitated me going into the building a week or so later. You could clearly see that the towers fell over as well as down. Windows in about 20 floors of the western facade of 1 Liberty were gone...

Piece of WTC 1 in DB building...

YO can see parts of 2 on 7's footprint as well as the damage to 1 Liberty.

war  posted on  2009-03-17   11:28:34 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: war (#93)

YO can see parts of 2 on 7's footprint as well as the damage to 1 Liberty.

It fell straight down war, you can't deny that fact. So yes, it fell into it's own footprint, but sure there will be debris in the immediate area. What did you expect it to do, drill a whole for itself into the ground and fall into it?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-17   11:35:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: FormerLurker (#98)

It fell straight down war,

Despite all the photo evidence that I just provided you to the contrary?

Did the conspirators come in with a huge crain when noone was looking and put that piece of WTC 1 into the DB Building and take that huge assed scoop out of it as well?

war  posted on  2009-03-17   11:51:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: war (#101)

Despite all the photo evidence that I just provided you to the contrary?

You fool, do you see any buildings with the top section of the WTC impaled into them? The fact that debris was blown outwards is not the same as the tower falling over.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-17   12:49:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: FormerLurker (#115)

The fact that debris was blown outwards is not the same as the tower falling over.

Wha...huh?

I challenge you to post a pic of any controlled demolition wherein the debris field was as far outside of its paramerers as it was at WTC...hell...the collpase of WTC 2 demolished the atrium of the WFC across the street...

When Pittsburgh had 3 Rivers Stadium brought down it stood yards from the new field which wasn't even scratched...

war  posted on  2009-03-17   13:02:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: war (#119)

I challenge you to post a pic of any controlled demolition wherein the debris field was as far outside of its paramerers as it was at WTC

I challenge you to post a pic of ANY other 110 story building that has collapsed, whether by demolition or any other cause.

THEN you can compare apples to apples instead of apples to oranges.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-17   13:17:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: FormerLurker (#120)

In other words, you cannot.

Here's a clue doofwipe...buildings brought down by demolition doesn't pulverize and strem "confetti" over a wide swath of earth. It IMplodes...

war  posted on  2009-03-17   13:20:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: war (#123)

In other words, you cannot.

In other words, there ARE no examples of 110 story skyscapers falling down. So YOU cannot.

Here's a clue doofwipe...buildings brought down by demolition doesn't pulverize and strem "confetti" over a wide swath of earth. It IMplodes...

Explain how a solid steel core can implode. If there WERE demolitions going off on key floors throught the building, would you expect the debris to "implode" or to be ejected outwards?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-17   13:22:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: FormerLurker (#125)

BTW, in case you handn't noticed, there is not one point that you have raised that has not been shown to be bullshit,

war  posted on  2009-03-17   14:18:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: war (#133)

BTW, in case you handn't noticed, there is not one point that you have raised that has not been shown to be bullshit,

You're great at projection war. That's about it though, other than your mastery of that character trait, you are nothing but a naive little kid who's all grown up and can't understand why those bad mooselums hate us for our freedom, yet swallows that tale as if it came from God Himself.

I don't have time to waste with someone who is either playing stupid, or IS stupid. If you want to believe in fairy tales that is your right, but don't condemn those who don't believe them, capeesh?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-18   2:28:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: FormerLurker (#167)

I don't have time to waste with someone who is either playing stupid, or IS stupid.

O come on FL.

I mean Law Enforcement found the passports in the hundred million tons of flaming debris the next day and had photos of them the day after that in all the newspapers.

We are so fortunate to be protected by such a capable police authority.

tom007  posted on  2009-03-18   3:31:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: tom007 (#168)

I mean Law Enforcement found the passports in the hundred million tons of flaming debris the next day and had photos of them the day after that in all the newspapers.

They had the passenger manifests of the flights which included the hijackers who were here on visas that required a file photo.

war  posted on  2009-03-18   9:53:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: war, tom007 (#180)

I mean Law Enforcement found the passports in the hundred million tons of flaming debris the next day and had photos of them the day after that in all the newspapers.

They had the passenger manifests of the flights which included the hijackers who were here on visas that required a file photo.

Another lie. The Flight Manifests were published and showed up on the Internet.

NONE OF THE SUPPOSED HIJACKERS NAMES SHOW UP ON ANY OF THE FLIGHT MANIFESTS.

NONE OF THE HIJACKERS WERE PHOTOGRAPHED BY SECURITY CAMERAS BORDING THE PLANES.

SEVERAL OF THE HIJACKER WERE TRAINED AT U.S. GOVERNMENT INTSTALLATIONS.

AT LAST COUNT 7 (if memory serves) WERE ALIVE AND ELSEWHERE THE DAY OF AND AFTER THE 911 PSYOP.

At this point all you are doing is regurgitating the same discredited lines of bullshit that have been planted all over the Web to try to discredit the obvious conclusion: 911 was committed with the full and knowing complicity of elements within the U.S. Feral Government.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-18   12:11:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Original_Intent (#187)

war  posted on  2009-03-18   12:27:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#372. To: war, Original_Intent, ALL (#194) (Edited)

Oh and BTW war, I also noticed you used screenshots from a flash presentation provided by the GOVERNMENT for its case against Zacarias Moussaoui. These are NOT flight manifests, but simply a visual aid created by the government.

As far as the FLIGHT MANIFESTS, well, go ahead and find them...

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-19   18:26:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#374. To: FormerLurker, War, Litus (#372)

Oh and BTW war, I also noticed you used screenshots from a flash presentation provided by the GOVERNMENT for its case against Zacarias Moussaoui. These are NOT flight managests, but simply a visual aid created by the government.

As far as the FLIGHT MANIFESTS, well, go ahead and find them...

None of the official hijackers of the Sep11th-attack appeared on the original manifest of the passenger list.

Here is the official info about these "hijackers". Many of the real identities are still alive. The FBI ignored these facts during 2001-2002 and never updated their suspect list.

[Sept11Wiki]

Passenger List - CLICK HERE

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-19   18:32:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#376. To: TwentyTwelve (#374)

Those links have all been scrubbed...........

litus  posted on  2009-03-19   22:35:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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