Title: 9/11 UAL 175 Plane on Radar AFTER It Has 'Crashed' Into The WTC; (MSNBC) Source:
, URL Source:http://, Published:Mar 16, 2009 Author:msnbc Post Date:2009-03-16 13:04:41 by Artisan Ping List:*9-11*Subscribe to *9-11* Keywords:None Views:14384 Comments:607
Claims that the WTC was designed to take the full speed impact of a 707.
Regardless whether they were designed for that or not, they did take full seed impacts from jet airplanes and stood with no problems until they blew them up.
War is probably a spook. This forum is quite famous among them, even though it is much smaller than some other sites because they know the average IQ here is about 147. That makes us a threat imo.
The next time you see some website advertising a "new continental congress" or some such crap asking you to join, rest assured it is a CIA name gathering tool.
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You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace
ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
My posting history on this forum is quite limited; my posting on this subject in this forum, even moreso...as a matter of fact, it's limited to just this thread.
Lie.
9/11 UAL 175 Plane on Radar AFTER It Has 'Crashed' Into The WTC; (MSNBC) (#479) [Full Thread] Post Date: 2009-03-21 00:22:14 From: litus To: war
War thinks the WTC towers were not steel framed. I kid you not! (#24) [Full Thread] Post Date: 2009-03-20 13:03:35 From: litus To: war
~snip~
As for your protestations regarding me characterizing you as a supporter of controlled demolition, you gave 0 choice once you reject the fact that a plane's impact and the ensuing explosion and fires caused a catastrophica failure of the buildings load bearing capabilities, it's all you have left.
As for you claiming that I've lied...feel free to post a link to thwere I claimed this:
Anyways........now we're back to fuel that caused it.........that MAGIKAL fuel!!
litus posted on 2009-03-18 22:14:41 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
The next time you see some website advertising a "new continental congress" or some such crap asking you to join, rest assured it is a CIA name gathering tool.
Unfortunately I think the Campaign for Liberty that Ron Paul started is one as well.
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
#530. To: Artisan, Christine, Jethro Tull, It istoolate, All (#498)
so you are saying that you believe that there had to be real pilots flying the planes but that they were not arab boogeyman? who the heck were they then? some neocons with a zeal for empire? i dont know if that sounds plausible??
There are a handful of viable possibilities available. If the aircraft was "remote controlled," the pilots would have the ability to either override the electronics, or at least radio that they were in dire peril, via radio, or the transponder. That pretty well rules out the "remote control" idea. It can be debated all day long, but those such as myself are qualified to cite the impossible and absurd. I keep an open mind, but there hasn't been that much viable material to speak in support of the detractor theories. Passionate nonsense & rationalization doesn't manufacture truth.
One possibility is the hand-picking of at least four black-ops pilots, willing to commit suicide. We'll probably never know.
The most important issue is that the 'official' story is so full of holes, that it looks like a chotic gause bandage. Add the massive coverup by the government agencies, aided by the robotic media.
Only Israelis were warned of 9-11, the London & Jordianian bombings. As Netanyahu said - before 'correcting' himself, "911 is very good for Israel." Being reasonable & realistic; what can anyone make of all that?
Add the Mossad "Dancing Art Students," set up to film the twin tower strikes.
Has anyone else noticed that our great "Ally" Israel never contributed as much as a troop of Boy Scouts to serve coffee in the Afghan & Iraq war crime invasions/occupations. (They don't have to!)
AND - after being the primary beneficiary of the Geneva Conventions, why is Israel not a signatory to those Conventions? By virtue of their membership in the UN, they are technically a signatory to the Geneva Conventions & Nuremberg Precedents - but tell that to the Gazzans.
We live in a time where we must subjectively establish a highly reasonable possibility. Sometimes that comes from presented facts; sometimes from presented information, which can't possibly be true.
My advice on 9-11 is to get a copy of Dr. Ray Griffin's "The New Pearl Harbor Revisited." He does quite an academic and surgical analysis of the 911 'official' accounts. I admit, I'm prejudiced on that work. I disagree with him on his conclusion that Flight 93 was shot down, but that's the only criticism I have of the book.
You could have blasted the ahit out of the core and the floors STILL would have had to have pancaked downward.
If the floors 'pancaked', then why was there no stack of floors at the bottom?
'Pancaked' Hahahaha
"If I were going to construct a God I would furnish him with some ways and qualities and characteristics which the Present One lacks... He would spend some of His eternities in trying to forgive Himself for making man unhappy when He could have made him happy with the same effort and He would spend the rest of them in studying astronomy." ~ Mark Twain
If the aircraft was "remote controlled," the pilots would have the ability to either override the electronics, or at least radio that they were in dire peril, via radio, or the transponder. That pretty well rules out the "remote control" idea.
How precisely can you make that claim? Do you know for a fact the systems weren't tampered with? How could you possibly say that with any semblence of certainty?
One possibility is the hand-picking of at least four black-ops pilots, willing to commit suicide.
That's a MUCH further stretch than the possibility of a hostile takeover of the flight systems by remote control.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The NIST finding requires that the floor end connections held and that the sagging floors remained connected to the columns.
This is directly opposite of the speculation of FEMA
Thanks much for the link to that...I will read it through tomorrow when my brain is fresh. Interesting above quote...FEMA "speculation"...ain't that a dandy one?!
Tell me that you didn't just respond to me by saying: "Liar!!! I never posted that post about WTC on that other thread that I claimed I did not post but that both you and I have posted again here!!!!"
Sad the guy who believes that they built remote control redundancy into plane crash activated set charges and but doesn't understand the force/energy dynamic of a falling multi-ton structure on cement...
Another one who ***thinks*** that nothing exploded inside the building...even though he ***thinks*** that the charges were set to explode on impact...
No, they weren't set to explode on impact, but still some went off in the area, just not enough to compromise the structural integrity of the very well built structures the WTC towers were.
#559. To: SKYDRIFTER, Artisan, Christine, Jethro Tull, It istoolate, All (#530)
If the aircraft was "remote controlled," the pilots would have the ability to either override the electronics, or at least radio that they were in dire peril, via radio, or the transponder.
So you're saying that there is NO way someone with intimate knowledge of the aircraft systems could design a device to completely take over any and all systems, and that there would be no way to stop the pilot from isolating the problem and disabling the device?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
>> If the aircraft was "remote controlled," the pilots would have the ability to either override the electronics, or at least radio that they were in dire peril, via radio, or the transponder.
So you're saying that there is NO way someone with intimate knowledge of the aircraft systems could design a device to completely take over any and all systems, and that there would be no way to stop the pilot from isolating the problem and disabling the device?
Why does everyone assume that there even was a crew, or passengers?
This could have been a military plane disguised as a UAL plane.