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Title: 9/11 UAL 175 Plane on Radar AFTER It Has 'Crashed' Into The WTC; (MSNBC)
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Published: Mar 16, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-03-16 13:04:41 by Artisan
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#530. To: Artisan, Christine, Jethro Tull, It istoolate, All (#498)
There are a handful of viable possibilities available. If the aircraft was "remote controlled," the pilots would have the ability to either override the electronics, or at least radio that they were in dire peril, via radio, or the transponder. That pretty well rules out the "remote control" idea. It can be debated all day long, but those such as myself are qualified to cite the impossible and absurd. I keep an open mind, but there hasn't been that much viable material to speak in support of the detractor theories. Passionate nonsense & rationalization doesn't manufacture truth. One possibility is the hand-picking of at least four black-ops pilots, willing to commit suicide. We'll probably never know. The most important issue is that the 'official' story is so full of holes, that it looks like a chotic gause bandage. Add the massive coverup by the government agencies, aided by the robotic media. Only Israelis were warned of 9-11, the London & Jordianian bombings. As Netanyahu said - before 'correcting' himself, "911 is very good for Israel." Being reasonable & realistic; what can anyone make of all that? Add the Mossad "Dancing Art Students," set up to film the twin tower strikes. Has anyone else noticed that our great "Ally" Israel never contributed as much as a troop of Boy Scouts to serve coffee in the Afghan & Iraq war crime invasions/occupations. (They don't have to!) AND - after being the primary beneficiary of the Geneva Conventions, why is Israel not a signatory to those Conventions? By virtue of their membership in the UN, they are technically a signatory to the Geneva Conventions & Nuremberg Precedents - but tell that to the Gazzans. We live in a time where we must subjectively establish a highly reasonable possibility. Sometimes that comes from presented facts; sometimes from presented information, which can't possibly be true. My advice on 9-11 is to get a copy of Dr. Ray Griffin's "The New Pearl Harbor Revisited." He does quite an academic and surgical analysis of the 911 'official' accounts. I admit, I'm prejudiced on that work. I disagree with him on his conclusion that Flight 93 was shot down, but that's the only criticism I have of the book.
JFK was killed by several bullets but the headshot was probably the only one needed.
If the floors 'pancaked', then why was there no stack of floors at the bottom? 'Pancaked' Hahahaha
Hi Sky - Glad to hear from you.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" How precisely can you make that claim? Do you know for a fact the systems weren't tampered with? How could you possibly say that with any semblence of certainty? One possibility is the hand-picking of at least four black-ops pilots, willing to commit suicide. That's a MUCH further stretch than the possibility of a hostile takeover of the flight systems by remote control.
War thinks the WTC towers were not steel framed. I kid you not! (#24) [Full Thread] Post Date: 2009-03-20 13:03:35 From: litus To: war ~snip~ You dare to claim the above post is "snipped" as something I ever stated? Furthermore, you claim that what you quoted was from my post #24? You are a liar. What I stated in Post #24 contained the following, in full: Magical fuel and magical gravity....all on one day with three towers...beyond fantastical that they all fell onto their own footprint. litus posted on 2009-03-20 13:03:35 ET
This is directly opposite of the speculation of FEMA Thanks much for the link to that...I will read it through tomorrow when my brain is fresh. Interesting above quote...FEMA "speculation"...ain't that a dandy one?!
Tell me that you didn't just respond to me by saying: "Liar!!! I never posted that post about WTC on that other thread that I claimed I did not post but that both you and I have posted again here!!!!"
Because they were made of cement ond the force of the impact obliderated them. What do you ***think*** a good part of that "dust" was? That said, when the Towers collapsed, the debris was up to 14 stories tall.
??? Non Sequiter.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" What you **think** that phrase means, it doesn't.
War. You somehow posted to me in error. And how you presume to know what I think.... Shows a lot of arrogance.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Nope. It traced back to you. You misused "non sequiter" [sic - which means you misspelled it too]. I HAVE the facts.
'Pancaked' Hahahaha Did you read that war? wudidiz is right. If they pancaked then they would all be stacked up at the bottom. They didn't pancake at all, they exploded mid-air like the rest of the building did.
God is always good!
Nope you didn't, not correctly. Yes I misspelled the Latin. And to be clear, I have no problem with you arguing about 9-11, the more honest info the better. I just had no connection with the "pancake" stuff, and don't know why I was pinged.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Because they were made of cement ond (sic) the force of the impact obliderated (sic) them. This is what a building whose floors pancaked during an earthquake looks like. As you can see, the cement was not obliterated by the force of the collisions on each floor. The WTC tower's floors were blown up just like the rest of the building was in each building.
God is always good!
Yes I misspelled the Latin. Wha,...chuckle...huh? I didn't trace it back to you but it was you who misspelled it? Moonies...you just cannot make their shit up...
Ha... HA Ha... HA HA Ha... HA HA HA... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Hey Moonbat...why didn't the explosion and fire that by everyone's observation reached the core, set off any of those charges?
They did. It just didn't set off enough of them to bring the building down so they had to do it later via remote control. Oh, and that explosion, the big fire ball of jet fuel seen outside the WTC tower after impact, was mostly outside the building. If it were mostly inside the building then no one on any of those floors would have survived it. But many did.
God is always good!
If the floors 'pancaked', then why was there no stack of floors at the bottom? Because they were made of cement ond the force of the impact obliderated them. What do you ***think*** a good part of that "dust" was? That said, when the Towers collapsed, the debris was up to 14 stories tall. war posted on 2009-03-22 8:36:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Above is the post you made to me, WAR. And it makes no sense to me, as I had nothing to do with whatever that discussion was. And BTW, you misspelled several words there, and they were not Latin. And please note that I am not assuming that I know what you think. So quit being so full of yourself.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Say "Good Night, Gracie"...
Yep....I limit my typos to one language...
You are retarded, do you know that?
God is always good!
Sad the guy who believes that they built remote control redundancy into plane crash activated set charges and but doesn't understand the force/energy dynamic of a falling multi-ton structure on cement...
Another one who ***thinks*** that nothing exploded inside the building... But I'm retarded...
Another one who ***thinks*** that nothing exploded inside the building...even though he ***thinks*** that the charges were set to explode on impact... But I'm retarded...
Not only are you retarded, you stutter too.
God is always good!
Not me, I misspell in all the languages I write.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" No, they weren't set to explode on impact, but still some went off in the area, just not enough to compromise the structural integrity of the very well built structures the WTC towers were.
God is always good!
So you're saying that there is NO way someone with intimate knowledge of the aircraft systems could design a device to completely take over any and all systems, and that there would be no way to stop the pilot from isolating the problem and disabling the device?
So you're saying that there is NO way someone with intimate knowledge of the aircraft systems could design a device to completely take over any and all systems, and that there would be no way to stop the pilot from isolating the problem and disabling the device? Why does everyone assume that there even was a crew, or passengers? This could have been a military plane disguised as a UAL plane.
God is always good!
And your evidence for this is what?
Um...because people bought tickets and boarded the plane in Boston.
I can't understand why SKYDRIFTER hasn't answered any of my questions here concerning his view of the possibility of remote control being used in the 9/11 attacks.
There's no evidence they boarded the planes, and I don't think there's any evidence they bought tickets either, but I could be mistaken. Why don't you post some links that prove they actually bought tickets. As I said, there is NO proof that they actually boarded the planes, but you're more than welcome to look for it.
Hey imbecile, check this out. This is a bridge in Lebanon that was hit by missiles from Israeli jets. This bridge was much higher than the 1 floor distance in the WTC Towers. Still yet, even after falling hundreds of feet and having an actual missile hit it, it did NOT obliterate upon impact to fine dust. You might want to go back and check your physics book, you just screwed up big time. Thank god you are not a structural engineer. :)
God is always good!
Yeah, that solves it then, why didn't I think of that? They told us those planes hit the towers and those people were on the planes and no one has seen them since so that must mean those planes hit the WTC towers. <.sarcasm> It must mean that only if you are using kindergarten logic. And you are not capable of much more than that.
God is always good!
I don't know. I know he was a former commercial airline pilot, but why he thinks the actual planes taking off from Logan airport with passengers and crew on them hit the buildings is anybody's guess. All we have to go on is the word of the media and government and they have lied constantly about 9/11 so why would they tell the truth about the planes that really hit the towers? Unless Skydrifter has some information we don't have then it is very strange of him to dismiss the missile guidance or remote control possibility on the planes that actually hit the WTC towers. So far he has not presented any information that would rule this out.
God is always good!
Riiight...because American Airlaines and UAL are both in on the conspiracy. s
How many tons fell upon it to make it fall?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latestso you are saying that you believe that there had to be real pilots flying the planes but that they were not arab boogeyman? who the heck were they then? some neocons with a zeal for empire? i dont know if that sounds plausible??
#531. To: RickyJ (#528)
Do you need to know how JFK was killed to know that he was killed?
#532. To: war (#495)
You could have blasted the ahit out of the core and the floors STILL would have had to have pancaked downward.
"If I were going to construct a God I would furnish him with some ways and qualities and characteristics which the Present One lacks... He would spend some of His eternities in trying to forgive Himself for making man unhappy when He could have made him happy with the same effort and He would spend the rest of them in studying astronomy." ~ Mark Twain
#533. To: SKYDRIFTER (#530)
#534. To: SKYDRIFTER (#530)
If the aircraft was "remote controlled," the pilots would have the ability to either override the electronics, or at least radio that they were in dire peril, via radio, or the transponder. That pretty well rules out the "remote control" idea.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#535. To: war (#525)
9/11 UAL 175 Plane on Radar AFTER It Has 'Crashed' Into The WTC; (MSNBC) (#479) [Full Thread] Post Date: 2009-03-21 00:22:14 From: litus To: war
#24. To: war (#21)
So, not only have you lied again, now you falsely attribute statements I never made....to me.
[QUOTE] Gravity did...[ENDQUOTE]
lol!
#536. To: Kamala (#529)
The NIST finding requires that the floor end connections held and that the sagging floors remained connected to the columns.
#537. To: litus (#535)
#538. To: tom007 (#533)
If the floors 'pancaked', then why was there no stack of floors at the bottom?
#539. To: war (#538)
What do you ***think*** a good part of that "dust" was?
#540. To: tom007 (#539)
Non Sequiter
#541. To: war (#540)
What you **think** that phrase means, it doesn't.
#542. To: tom007 (#541)
You somehow posted to me in error.
#543. To: war, wudidiz (#532)
If the floors 'pancaked', then why was there no stack of floors at the bottom?
#544. To: war (#542)
(Edited)
Nope. It traced back to you
#545. To: war, tom007 (#538)
>> If the floors 'pancaked', then why was there no stack of floors at the bottom?
#546. To: tom007 (#544)
Nope you didn't, not correctly.
#547. To: RickyJ (#545)
The WTC tower's floors were blown up just like the rest of the building was in each building.
#548. To: war (#547)
(Edited)
Hey Moonbat...why didn't the explosion and fire that by everyone's observation reached the core, set off any of those charges?
#549. To: war (#538)
(Edited)
#538. To: tom007 (#533)
#550. To: RickyJ (#548)
They did. It just didn't set off enough of them to bring the building down so they had to do it later via remote control.
#551. To: tom007 (#549)
And BTW, you misspelled several words there, and they were not Latin.
#552. To: war (#550)
Say "Good Night, Gracie"...
#553. To: RickyJ (#552)
You are retarded, do you know that?
#554. To: RickyJ (#548)
Oh, and that explosion, the big fire ball of jet fuel seen outside the WTC tower after impact, was mostly outside the building.
#555. To: RickyJ (#548)
Oh, and that explosion, the big fire ball of jet fuel seen outside the WTC tower after impact, was mostly outside the building.
#556. To: war (#555)
But I'm retarded...
#557. To: war (#551)
Yep....I limit my typos to one language...
#558. To: war (#555)
(Edited)
Another one who ***thinks*** that nothing exploded inside the building...even though he ***thinks*** that the charges were set to explode on impact...
#559. To: SKYDRIFTER, Artisan, Christine, Jethro Tull, It istoolate, All (#530)
If the aircraft was "remote controlled," the pilots would have the ability to either override the electronics, or at least radio that they were in dire peril, via radio, or the transponder.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#560. To: SKYDRIFTER, FormerLurker (#559)
>> If the aircraft was "remote controlled," the pilots would have the ability to either override the electronics, or at least radio that they were in dire peril, via radio, or the transponder.
#561. To: RickyJ (#558)
#562. To: RickyJ (#560)
Why does everyone assume that there even was a crew, or passengers?
#563. To: RickyJ, SKYDRIFTER (#560)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#564. To: war, RickyJ (#562)
Um...because people bought tickets and boarded the plane in Boston.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#565. To: war (#553)
Sad the guy who believes that they built remote control redundancy into plane crash activated set charges and but doesn't understand the force/energy dynamic of a falling multi-ton structure on cement...
#566. To: war (#562)
Um...because people bought tickets and boarded the plane in Boston.
#567. To: FormerLurker (#563)
I can't understand why SKYDRIFTER hasn't answered any of my questions here concerning his view of the possibility of remote control being used in the 9/11 attacks.
#568. To: FormerLurker (#564)
There's no evidence they boarded the planes
#569. To: RickyJ (#565)
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