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Title: Only Ron Paul Can Save Us Now
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Published: Mar 16, 2009
Author: Doug Wead
Post Date: 2009-03-16 15:31:24 by Mind_Virus
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Only Ron Paul Can Save Us Now For the last few weeks Republicans have been ranting about the Democrat raid of the U. S. Treasury. They were using the financial crisis like the Reichstag Fire, we were told, as an excuse to consolidate their power, paying off political constituencies and pushing through spending bills that are loaded with extras totally unrelated to any resolution of the crisis. Even moderates have been alarmed. To be sure, there is still good will toward our new President Barack Obama. Everyone is too pleased with the idea of an African American president to blame him for anything. The tomatoes are usually tossed at Nancy Pelosi and her partisan gang in the House. Surely the president who firmly promised he would end ear marks and examine each spending bill, line by line, has not lied to us already, this early into his term in office? But now it turns out that the whiney Republican Party’s own leaders are right in the thick of it all. Six of the top ten pork barrel spenders in the U. S. Senate are in the GOP. Here is that inglorious list. 1. Thad Cochran, R-Miss.: $474 million 2. Roger Wicker, R-Miss.: $391 million 3. Mary Landrieu, D-La.: $332 million 4. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa: $292 million 5. David Vitter, R-La.: $249 million 6. Christopher Bond, R-Mo.: $248 million 7. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.: $235 million 8. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii: $225 million 9. Richard Shelby, R-Ala.: $219 million 10. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa: $199 million (Source fray.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/2557139.aspx) Just making the cut, you’ll notice, is Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa who was upset last summer at Pentecostal-Charismatic television preachers, calling for an investigation, because evangelists like Joyce Meyers, who earns $250,000 a year, are too extravagant with donations. At a time when America is on the verge of the Second Great Depression and unemployment is mounting, he bagged almost $200 million in pork barrel goodies for his buddies back home. At least the people who give to Joyce Meyers’ ministry do so voluntarily. (By the way, maybe we should have the government run the Churches too, that would make a clean sweep of things. Banks, Insurance, Autos and Churches, as well. Hmmm.) Is there anyone who can save us from this insanity? There is really only one option left. Ron Paul. It is a long shot, but if the madness goes far enough and the reaction sets in, the Paulistas just might stage a takeover of the Grand Old Party and Ron Paul would offer America a real choice. It’s a long shot. But four more years of this and America may actually be ready. Note: Here is the link of Doug Wead appearing on FOX NEWS talking about the Stimulus package.
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#1. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
Long shot???? Paul never left the gate. He found his one true love was the Republican party.
I've read you for a long time Cyni. I think you have what it takes to be a congress critter or a senator. Just what party would you run under or with? It couldn't be with a third party try. The MSM would ignore you and the sheople only fancy dems and pubs. So just for shits & Giggles, name your party.
And it's too late, baby, now it's too late
Thanks for that Lac... I am Cynical about and with politics, politicians and government. In nearly 40 years of backroom politics, I learned a great deal about people that aspire to public office. In all that time I met just one totally honest politician, just one. All of the others had problems, usually with alcohol and sex. This was on county and state levels. I did have a cohort in many of those years and our goal was...if you are in office you need to leave and look for an honest job..... We even ran my own nephew out of office because he was corrupt, now he is a judge. Party???There is only one party, the ruling elite and they own and operate the government. Politics is a dirty business and no one gets to the top without paying their dues, no one. Third party? Almost impossible due to money and restrictive laws. You are a union man, you will know the end is at hand when unions are outlawed or form one government union. Honest union members are a threat to the system.
It was too late the day Paul sent out his infamous Trotsky email. Most knew it was all over at that time. Right message, wrong messenger.
Only Turtle can save us now!
TheSystem needs a revolution of ideas. Ron Paul doesn't go nearly far enough. We need to revisit everything from 1776 to the present and overhaul the entire system, beginning with: term limits on all governments offices (local state fed) [one place where the founders really screwed up] Lawyers, bankers, judges, LEO agencies (all levels) with no oversight to their misdeeds, domestic traitors in government, and business interests have long held the reigns of power over the rights of the people. This will end. Freedom takes guts. That's just the beginning of this revolution... No idea should be off limits to discuss.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON
We need a politician who can expose the treachery behind 9/11. Dennis Kucinich is a lone voice that tries to bring it to the forefront, but he needs some powerful allies to join his cause. I'm disappointed that Ron Paul has washed his hands of the matter. If Paul wanted to make a difference, 9/11 would be THE issue that he should be most concerned about as it would expose the corrupt web of treason and deceipt that is bringing about the demise of our nation.
Of course. I'll add it now.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON
Turtle.... The days of when an honest American could become president are long gone. James, Tom and I would vote for you.
James, Tom and I would vote for you. I wouldn't. A new head of the beast will not change the beast, anymore than Ron Paul would have. It's going to require an overhaul from the top down. Time is growing short.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON
Vote?!?! No one votes in the King! I'll pay all three of you good money to build the gallows I'll use to hang about 2000 people.
I am with you. The founding Fathers did err on some aspects of the Constitution. It was not a matter of them being naive, rather they never envisioned lifetime professional politicians. History says their over riding thoughts were that citizens would..."serve their country for a season"... and then return to private life. Thus there would be a continual turnover of legislators. Setting an example, Washington served two terms and retired. They underestimated the greed and lust for power within some men.
immediate deportation of all ILLEGALS and securement of our borders
King???? Uneasy rests the crown of any King.... hehehehehehehehehehehehe
With my trained pack of 100 killer pugs I will be safe and snug. Besides, why do you think I'm goimg to kill 2000 people? They're the politicians, banksters and megacorporation types.
I could support that list..
Ain't that the truth? We definitely have enough crooks in our government.
Reading this a few minutes ago... "What we are seeing in Washington under a different set of elitists is a continued expansion of the failed policies of the Bush administration. Team A has replaced Team B."
Hanging is primitive and unpredictable. Too short of a drop and the victim can spend hours slowly strangulating. Too far of a drop and you rip the head off. Guillotines are very bloody and messy. Shooting is another horror show. Even lethal injection has problems. All things considered, I'd say the best, most humane, least bloody, least complex and consistently effective known method of execution would be the use of a garrote method from the seated position, with the ligature tightened by a winching mechanism activated by mechanical or (ideally) hydraulic control. The use of a hydraulic mechanism would enable you to accurately and consistently apply 5,000 newtons of force to the ligature nearly instantaneously, thereby inducing unconsciousness very rapidly due to the compression of the common carotid artery, and death is assured by the induction of carotid reflex (causing cardiac arrest) and then the crushing of the spinal cord when the neck vertebrae break. So that's my suggestion if you're looking for an effective method that could be applied to a large number of prisoners in a relatively brief period of time, with a minimum of effort and mess. Now, on the other hand, if you're looking to punish the prisoners to the greatest degree possible, it's pretty hard to beat either lapidation or crucifixion.
For the last few weeks Republicans have been ranting
#2. To: Cynicom (#1)
(Edited)
Paul never left the gate. He found his one true love was the Republican party.
#3. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
It is a long shot, but if the madness goes far enough and the reaction sets in, the Paulistas just might stage a takeover of the Grand Old Party and Ron Paul would offer America a real choice.
#4. To: LACUMO (#2)
#5. To: christine (#3)
And it's too late, baby, now it's too late
#6. To: Cynicom (#4)
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#7. To: Mind_Virus, elliott jackalope, christine, cynicom, psusa, rotara, all (#0)
(Edited)
overhauling the unjust and tyrannical LegalIndustrialComplex including but not limited to a citizen review board with power to oversee and investigate and reverse any judicial and police action including miscarriages of justice in the courtrooms thereby ending the supreme power of judges and lying police over the Liberty of the people
repealing the income tax
repealing all gun laws. period.
ending the two party system
outlawing all contributions to politicians serving and running for office
ending all foreign aid and foreign wars
eliminating the federal reserve
an immediate forgiveness of the outstanding consumer debt of every AmeriKan
ending the H1B Visa program forcing employers to hire Americans
repeal of SHAFTA
ending Social Security contributions for all Americans and allowing them to keep their money
immediate distribution back to the people of all money stolen from Americans in the form of SS taxes in a lump sum regardless of age
an end to the accumulation and storing of American's personal information from medical records to credit reports
an end to the "wars on _____" with the immediate legalization of all naturally growing plants and a release of all in prison solely for possession of these substances
destroying the no-fly list
implementing national right to carry reinforcing the Second Amendment
ban lawyers from serving in public office.
Edit: expose the truth behind 911 with an unlimited investigation that can be stopped by no person, agency or lawyer with all records being subject to publication and review, with no claim of "national security" being sufficient to stop their release
Edit: Immediate deportation of all illegal aliens. 
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#8. To: IndieTX (#7)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#9. To: FormerLurker (#8)
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#10. To: Turtle (#6)
#11. To: Cynicom (#10)
The days of when an honest American could become president are long gone.
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#12. To: Cynicom, James Deffenbach, tom007 (#10)
James, Tom and I would vote for you.
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#13. To: IndieTX (#7)
#14. To: IndieTX (#7)
#15. To: Turtle (#12)
#16. To: Cynicom (#15)
Uneasy rests the crown of any King....
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#17. To: IndieTX (#7)
#18. To: Cynicom (#4)
Party???There is only one party, the ruling elite and they own and operate the government. Politics is a dirty business and no one gets to the top without paying their dues, no one.
#19. To: LACUMO (#18)
Ain't that the truth?
#20. To: Turtle (#12)
 | Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings. |
#21. To: Elliott Jackalope, Cynicom, James Deffenbach, tom007 (#20)
I forgot about that! Yes! Slow, easy, cheap, and horrible!
crucifixion.
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#22. To: Elliott Jackalope (#20)
it sounds like you've put a lot of thought into this. ;)
#23. To: christine (#22)
Mmmmaaaaybe....
| Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings. |
#24. To: FormerLurker, all, (#8)
We need a politician who can expose the treachery behind 9/11
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#25. To: Elliott Jackalope (#20) (Edited)
Not really, not with modern sheet metal and concrete technologies. I could build one drains right into the main sewer cleanout for like 200 Euros.
Guillotines are very bloody and messy
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#26. To: Dakmar (#25) (Edited)
Hmm... now you get me thinking about what might be able to be done with an industrial laser. Instantaneous decapitation and cauterization in one move. Could it be done? It would take some research, but what an interesting notion. Then again, why even decapitate? Just punch a half-dollar size hole through the head and call it good...
| Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings. |
#27. To: Elliott Jackalope (#26)
You're gonna need someone understands plumbing and waste management. Given that...sure, easy!
Instantaneous decapitation and cauterization in one move. Could it be done?
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#28. To: Elliott Jackalope (#26)
Then again, why even decapitate? Just punch a half-dollar size hole through the head and call it good...
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#29. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
There is really only one option left. Ron Paul. It’s a long shot. But four more years of this and America may actually be ready. America will be long gone by then; what'll be left, at "best", will be AmeriKa
Is there anyone who can save us from this insanity?
#30. To: christine (#14)
thanks christine i just added that in an edit thanks to you..so much to do
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
ALAS, BABYLON
#31. To: Elliott Jackalope (#26)
With modern technology why can't we just immediately vaporize them with a laser? No muss, no fuss.
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#32. To: Turtle (#16)
With my trained pack of 100 killer pugs
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#33. To: IndieTX (#7)
Damn, You've got my vote!!!
No idea should be off limits to discuss.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
#34. To: Elliott Jackalope (#20)
All things considered, shooting somebody point blank (or close to it) in the back of the head with a pistol is quick, painless, and inexpensive compared to every other method. Why anyone would bother with strange contraptions like electric chairs for executions is beyond me.
Hanging is primitive and unpredictable. Too short of a drop and the victim can spend hours slowly strangulating. Too far of a drop and you rip the head off. Guillotines are very bloody and messy. Shooting is another horror show. Even lethal injection has problems. All things considered, I'd say the best, most humane, least bloody, least complex and consistently effective known method of execution would be the use of a garrote method from the seated position, with the ligature tightened by a winching mechanism activated by mechanical or (ideally) hydraulic control.
#35. To: IndieTX (#11)
Hey Indie. How ya doing? Your statement doesn't make sense. You say "A new head of the beast will not change the beast" Then you say "overhaul from the top down" Sounds to me like you are contradicting yourself.
I wouldn't. A new head of the beast will not change the beast, anymore than Ron Paul would have. It's going to require an overhaul from the top down. Time is growing short.
#36. To: christine (#14)
Im for getting them out. Just so the securement of the border doesn't turn into an east berlin style prison wall. Or a "your papers please"
immediate deportation of all ILLEGALS and securement of our borders
#37. To: Turtle (#31)
Who cares about a mess. Put them in a blender. Then sell the juice to Jeffry Dahmer types.
With modern technology why can't we just immediately vaporize them with a laser? No muss, no fuss.
#38. To: James Deffenbach (#32)
Are you making fun of Turtle's Super Brain? If so, you shall surely be really, really, really sorry! Turtle can remote-control these pugs so all of them will crash into your beloved cherry '72 baby-poop yellow Gremlin, and when you see it, you will cry like a little gurl who dropped her dolly into the sewer.
KOOK!! ahaha.
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#39. To: Turtle (#38)
2. If so, you shall surely be really, really, really sorry! 1. No! Whatever would give you an idea like that? 2. Oh, I am very scared. Really. I doubt I will be able to sleep tonight and may have to sue for that. >(;^{]
1. Are you making fun of Turtle's Super Brain?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#40. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#34)
Because people who use them are sadistic f***ks
Why anyone would bother with strange contraptions like electric chairs for executions is beyond me.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
ALAS, BABYLON
#41. To: James Deffenbach (#39)
Your beloved Gremlin, your pride and joy, soon to be reduced to a smoldering heap by a horde of remote-controlled airborne pugs.
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#42. To: Turtle (#41)
This look like a "Gremlin" to you? Not really mine but then I don't have a Gremlin either.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#43. To: James Deffenbach (#42) (Edited)
What a pitiful pile of junk. And of course you wear your "Superfly" outfit while cruising in it?
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#44. To: Turtle (#43) (Edited)
That "pitiful pile of junk" as you call it is a '69 Buick Gran Sport, a 1969 Buick GS 400 to be exact. I wish I had 1000 of those "pitiful piles of junk" because they are worth a small fortune (each). And here is a '70 model GSX (it is my understanding that only about 400 of these were built). 
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#45. To: Turtle (#12)
That would be fine by me, but as a matter of historical perspective, I bet a public hanging of about fifty would seriously chastise the power monger of DC and reduce all of them to hiding in their closets. Must say Rush and Hannity come to mind here as well as the beltway bandits. Just got off the plane from Mexico, BTW.
the gallows I'll use to hang about 2000 people.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#46. To: Elliott Jackalope (#20)
Now that was an uplifting post. I don't exactly know what lapidation is, but it seems like scourging. As to the worst punishment - Ill stick with the glass cage in public. Plenty of time for reflections of the agony of what they were and where they are now. A lasting agony. I believe it was Rudy Hess that the Russians hated so much that they kept a prison open for just him for decades - death was too sweet for him.
Now, on the other hand, if you're looking to punish the prisoners to the greatest degree possible, it's pretty hard to beat either lapidation or crucifixion.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#47. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#34)
Right behind the ear, where the skull bone is thickest - Mommy Nature designed that for a reason. A .22 LR hidden in a ball point pen mechanism has always worked well for me. ;)
shooting somebody point blank (or close to it) in the back of the head with a pistol is quick, painless, and
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#48. To: Turtle (#43)
Spitting out valuable beer.
And of course you wear your "Superfly" outfit while cruising in it?
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#49. To: tom007 (#46)
Lapidation is another word for "stoning".
I don't exactly know what lapidation is, but it seems like scourging.
| Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings. |
#50. To: Elliott Jackalope (#49)
Lapis Lazuli - the blue stone. Just coming back from Mexico and watching the ocean tides - getting put in a hole to your neck at low high tide and waiting, in the miserable sun, for the high high tide to slowly choke you - well even watching the Simpsons appears a better way to die.
Lapidation is another word for "stoning".
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#51. To: tom007, James Deffenbach (#48) (Edited)
Superfly...he's a bad mammerjammer. JAMES: "Hey, I'm lookin' good and feelin' good...but damn if they didn't repo my pimpmobile!"
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#52. To: James Deffenbach (#44)
Those aren't CARS. This is a CAR.
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#53. To: Turtle (#52)
You know you would give your shell for either of those cars (the one you posted is pretty too--very pretty in fact. But if I could choose either of them I would probably take that GSX).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#54. To: James Deffenbach (#44)
Funny thing is they'd actually be worth less if you had 1000 of them because they only made like 648 originals.
That "pitiful pile of junk" as you call it is a '69 Buick Gran Sport, a 1969 Buick GS 400 to be exact. I wish I had 1000 of those "pitiful piles of junk" because they are worth a small fortune (each)
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#55. To: FormerLurker, christine, psusa, rotara, indieTX, cynicom (#8)
If Paul wanted to make a difference, 9/11 would be THE issue that he should be most concerned about as it would expose the corrupt web of treason and deceipt that is bringing about the demise of our nation. Paul's problem is that he is a COWARD. Even gun-grabbing socialist kucinich has the cajones to tell the freaking truth about 911. Add in Bob Bowman, who almost won a congressional seat despite using 911 truth as one of his main platforms; Chuck Baldwin also addressed the issue admirably and honestly as a presidential candidate. Cynthia Mckinney. Look at all those people who aren't afraid to mention 911 trutha nd don't disparage the theory as 'absurd and ludicrous' out of WEAK FEAR. So Paul's problem is that he is a weak and dishonest coward. Things are so bad however that despite all this, I am still so glad he is out there so that when you reference 'ron paul'.,, many people know who is he and like his ideas, the foundation for smaller government and liberty. it is a damn shame when the best spokesman we have is such a weak coward.
We need a politician who can expose the treachery behind 9/11. Dennis Kucinich is a lone voice that tries to bring it to the forefront, but he needs some powerful allies to join his cause. I'm disappointed that Ron Paul has washed his hands of the matter.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#56. To: Mind_Virus (#55)
Ron Paul ain't going to save anybody. if this headline was true we're all screwed. save yourself.
"Only Ron Paul can save us now"
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#57. To: Artisan (#55)
Yeah. It's an epic tragedy all the way through.
it is a damn shame when the best spokesman we have is such a weak coward.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#58. To: Rotara, Artisan (#57)
Yeah. It's an epic tragedy all the way through. It is very very sad indeed.
it is a damn shame when the best spokesman we have is such a weak coward.
#59. To: All (#56)
"president" Obama comes to California
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#60. To: Dakmar (#54)
Actually they sold quite a few more than that. I didn't find sales figures for the 69 model but I doubt they were that much less than the 68 or 70 models. http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z10203/Buick-Gran-Sport.aspx And I would like to have just one of them, maybe two. Always good to have a spare if you have to put one in the shop.
Funny thing is they'd actually be worth less if you had 1000 of them because they only made like 648 originals.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#61. To: James Deffenbach (#60)
Those numbers are for the GS. The GSX was only produced 1970 - 72, go here for a more accurate breakdown. I was pretty close for off the top of my head, 678 1970's instead of the 648 I told you.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#62. To: Dakmar (#61)
Thank you my friend. I would love to have a 69 GS or one of the GSX's--they were beautiful cars, at least I think so.
Those numbers are for the GS. The GSX was only produced 1970 - 72, go here for a more accurate breakdown. I was pretty close for off the top of my head, 678 1970's instead of the 648 I told you.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#63. To: Dakmar (#61)
I wonder how many of those are still around and still in new or like new condition? I doubt there are all that many.
678 1970's instead of the 648 I told you.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#64. To: James Deffenbach (#63)
I like them too, and even though they are basically the same body I always thought thought the Buicks were much prettier than their corporate cousin GTOs and Chevelles. I'd guess there are a decent number left, since they were a pretty high dollar car to begin with, especially the GSX. There was one in my neighborhood in he early 80s in immaculate condition, as compared to a half dozen dog-eared Road Runners, two of which I remember being totaled by goofy teenagers.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#65. To: Dakmar (#64) (Edited)
If I had the money to buy it that one I posted the picture of (either of them but especially that GSX) would be mine if it hasn't already been sold.
I like them too, and even though they are basically the same body I always thought thought the Buicks were much prettier than their corporate cousin GTOs and Chevelles. I'd guess there are a decent number left, since they were a pretty high dollar car to begin with, especially the GSX. There was one in my neighborhood in he early 80s in immaculate condition, as compared to a half dozen dog-eared Road Runners, two of which I remember being totaled by goofy teenagers.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#66. To: James Deffenbach (#65) (Edited)
The GS is worth about 30k, tops. The GSX is probably in Hemi Cuda territory, if it's for sale at all. I've always thought the prettiest car ever built was the 69 Mustang Sportsroof: We didn't get a lot of Fords in Kokomo, so they were sort of forbidden fruit. It's odd thinking back now what a treasure trove of American Muscle that town was. I knew where there was a 69 SC/Rambler, a 70 Boss 302 Mustang, a 66 GT-350, a first gen AMX, two really nice second gen Javs, about sixty 71-74 Chargers, maybe five of which may still be around, a super clean 71 Torino GT with laser stripe, a beautifully maintained 67 Mustang fastback, a freaking Volvo P1800 believe it or not, and a 70 red Mercury Marauder with the blackout rear deck paint.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#67. To: Dakmar (#66)
Yeah, I suspect you are correct about what a GSX would cost. The one I posted the picture of is not far from where I used to live, at least according to the advertising, but they didn't show a price for it. I am sure it is for sale at some price but I imagine you would have to be very wealthy to afford it. That is a nice looking Mustang.
The GS is worth about 30k, tops. The GSX is probably in Hemi Cuda territory, if it's for sale at all.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#68. To: James Deffenbach (#67) (Edited)
Lido should have strangled Bunkie to death right there on the spot once the decision not to build any Boss 429 Torinos was made.
That is a nice looking Mustang.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#69. To: James Deffenbach, Buick GS Redux (#67)
Can I call them or what? Have been watching Barrett-Jackson for last two hours but was too self-absorbed to get up. Anyway, a VERY clean 71 convertible was sold for 36 or 37K, a small-block but with the fresh air package, there were like 4 snorkels coming off the air-cleaner that hooked up to the hood once it was closed.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#70. To: Dakmar (#69)
Would that I had that kind of money not doing anything! I would have been the proud owner of that.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#71. To: James Deffenbach (#70)
Six hundred dollars? Everyone I know could kick themselves for missed opportunities. Then again, those who save everything ultimately seem to gravitate toward Elvis/QVC collections.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#72. To: Dakmar (#71)
Buy a plastic Jesus if salvation is a concern.
#73. To: Jethro Tull (#72)
Jesus died for somebody's sins
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#74. To: Dakmar (#71)
Everyone I know could kick themselves for missed opportunities. Then again, those who save everything ultimately seem to gravitate toward Elvis/QVC collections. Afraid I don't follow. What is it that you have found for six hundred dollars? Not a Buick GS unless it has been totaled and can't be fixed.
Six hundred dollars?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#75. To: James Deffenbach (#74)
That link didn't work? It's the story of a well worn yet solid 69 GS ragtop trading hands for a ridiculously small amount by today's standards. And a neat picture of the big-block cold air intake.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#76. To: Dakmar (#75)
Yes, it did work. Sorry, all I saw when I first clicked on it was the engine.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#77. To: James Deffenbach (#76)
Did I ever tell you about the time I had a chance to buy an entire hollowed out whale carcass...?
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#78. To: IndieTX (#7) (Edited)
term limits on all governments offices (local state fed) [one place where the founders really screwed up] overhauling the unjust and tyrannical LegalIndustrialComplex including but not limited to a citizen review board with power to oversee and investigate and reverse any judicial and police action including miscarriages of justice in the courtrooms thereby ending the supreme power of judges and lying police over the Liberty of the people repealing the income tax repealing all gun laws. period. ending the two party system outlawing all contributions to politicians serving and running for office ending all foreign aid and foreign wars eliminating the federal reserve an immediate forgiveness of the outstanding consumer debt of every AmeriKan ending the H1B Visa program forcing employers to hire Americans repeal of SHAFTA ending Social Security contributions for all Americans and allowing them to keep their money immediate distribution back to the people of all money stolen from Americans in the form of SS taxes in a lump sum regardless of age an end to the accumulation and storing of American's personal information from medical records to credit reports an end to the "wars on _____" with the immediate legalization of all naturally growing plants and a release of all in prison solely for possession of these substances destroying the no-fly list implementing national right to carry reinforcing the Second Amendment ban lawyers from serving in public office. Edit: expose the truth behind 911 with an unlimited investigation that can be stopped by no person, agency or lawyer with all records being subject to publication and review, with no claim of "national security" being sufficient to stop their release Edit: Immediate deportation of all illegal aliens. Lawyers, bankers, judges, LEO agencies (all levels) with no oversight to their misdeeds, domestic traitors in government, and business interests have long held the reigns of power over the rights of the people. This will end. Freedom takes guts. That's just the beginning of this revolution... No idea should be off limits to discuss. However uplifting this was to read, I know that it's tantamount to asking a snake congress to pass laws requiring them to swallow their own tails. Several times when we almost backed them into a corner some smarmy judge would announce that "The Constitution is not a suicide pact!" And they naturally assume that what's bad for career politicians, (and banksters-Shhhh) lawyers and lobbyists is bad for America.... The simple truth is untold billions of frauds ($) have been wasted annually to enrich lawyers and accountants, tax preparers and even companies that print and prepare millions of tons of paper each year that no one ever reads, but the mere hint of abolishing the income tax and letting America experience an economic boom is unthinkable because it would force armies of non productive "packrats for IRS receipts" to become productive and stop sucking the life's blood from our nation. Every man needs a dream, and mine is to hunt down former IRS agents (and the federal judges who made tyranny a reality) and treat them the way Eichmann was treated upon capture.... Even a "revenue neutral" sales tax would be vigorously opposed by those hordes of tax parasites and by politicians who use the IRS to intimidate and even destroy their enemies such as citizens who pay too much attention to Rep. Pontius' and Sen. Despot's activities as "public servants". I mean if we give a govt official the slightest latitude what do we get? A Chief Justice wearing gold hash marks to more closely resemble those he saw on a judge's robe in The Pirates Of Penzance!
The System needs a revolution of ideas. Ron Paul doesn't go nearly far enough. We need to revisit everything from 1776 to the present and overhaul the entire system, beginning with:
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