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Title: Mo. State Police: Not Profiling, It's An "Educational" Document - Updated
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Published: Mar 16, 2009
Author: Chris Knox
Post Date: 2009-03-16 18:34:50 by Refinersfire
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Mo. State Police: Not Profiling, It's An "Educational" Document A document from the Missouri Information Analysis Center, a division of the state police, conflates privately organized militia groups with libertarians, Ron Paul supporters, Constitutionalists, race separatists, and even some collectivists, who distrust the Federal Reserve. The document, which we obtained last week, is marked "Unclassified, Law Enforcement Sensitive," indicating that the Missouri state patrol guys don't want to talk about it. We can confirm that last bit as they failed to return phone calls or email. Before running the document I wanted to verify it. The Associated Press has since picked the story up, so we're running it now. You can see the document here. http://www.firearmscoalition.org/images/news/miac-militia-2009.pdf%22 The AP story quotes Lt. John Hotz of the Missouri State Highway Patrol who called the report "an educational thing." "Troopers have been shot by members of groups, so it's our job to let law enforcement officers know what the trends are in the modern militia movement." The most encouraging thing I see in this story is that it leaked. We'll be following this one. March 16, 2009 Update. The Missouri Libertarian Party issued a press release, available here. http://www.lpmo.org/media/releases/2009/PR-20090315-01.shtml * Jeff Note: This "analysis" by the Missouri Information Analysis Center has the fingerprints of the Southern Poverty Law Center all over it. Morris Dees of SPLC has for years maintained a site for tracking "hate groups." That's fine and dandy, but Mr. Dees is very good at drawing connecting lines between organizations and individuals even when there is rather obviously very little or nothing to connect them. Back in the mid 90's I attended a presentation by an associate of the SPLC and sat in stunned disbelief as he drew circles on the board containing the names of organizations and individuals he said were connected. Among these were connections between groups like the KKK, neo-Nazis, and such, and groups like NRA, the John Birch Society, and GOA. He drew other links between these groups, militia organizations, and individuals including Larry Pratt of GOA, and most shocking to me, Neal Knox, my own father. Now I know a bit about the NRA and I know Larry Pratt to be a fine Christian man. I also know that there is absolutely no truth to any allegation that Neal Knox was any more connected to these groups and their philosophies than Morris Dees himself is. The "connections" were based on the simple fact that the individuals and many in the groups al espoused one or more similar beliefs such as belief in the Second Amendment as an individual right and that the federal government should be constrained by the US Constitution. For Dees and his friends to make such links is simply outrageous. For official government agencies - particularly law enforcement agencies - to use these bogus connections or draw connections of their own suggesting that millions of law-abiding, patriotic Americans are "potential terrorists" because they object to excessive taxation or question the wisdom and constitutionality of the Federal Reserve system - or they believe that they have a God given right to the means necessary to defend their families and their nation - is beyond outrageous, it borders on criminal. Barack Obama has much closer ties and connections to terrorists and subversive philosophies than do most tax protesters, gunowners, or Constitutionalists, yet asking questions about these connections is one of the indicators that the Missouri "analysis" suggests is an indication of being a dangerous extremist. Rather than paint with a broad brush anyone who questions government actions or motives, the government needs to be openly, and honestly answering questions, correcting procedures, and abiding by the letter and spirit of the Constitution. Case in point: After the lunatic in Alabama's recent killing spree, the streets of the small town where it happened were patrolled by armed soldiers from nearby fort Rucker. While some would say that's a reasonable response to such a violent event, especially in light of the terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India recently, the fact of the matter is that armed military troops patrolling the streets of America is ILLEGAL. The military is for fighting foreign enemies in wars, not enforcing laws in the US. There are specific and clear proscriptions against military involvement in civil affairs. Whether their use in this case was "harmless," or "reasonable," or "appropriate," the fact remains that it is absolutely ILLEGAL and must not be done. If we the people wish to change that, we need to address it Constitutionally and legislatively, not just allow the government to ignore the law.
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#1. To: Refinersfire (#0)
FUCK MIAC
It I did that, I most likely would catch something, that couldn't be treated with modern medicine ;-)
eheheheheeeee !
....very sad to realize that, when the shooting starts, many or most of our lawfully vested law authorities will be shooting at fine, decent, law-abiding Americans, and those authorities will be absolutely and erroneously convinced that they are shooting at "the enemy". Their government tells them we are the enemy; ergo, we are the enemy in their befuddled and severely limited view. We who revere the Constitution are the best and finest friends of lawfully vested police, yet their "Us vs.them" attitude cuts off any reasoning beyond what their Paymaster tells them. Only Master chess-players could arrange their men so well, so deviously....
"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lodwick
well said, Bub
Thanks Christine - always good to hear from you. I cry for my country....
"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lodwick
I'm this -><- close to slapping a Campaign For Liberty bumper sticker on my car, but I hate bumper stickers. I've never changed my mind over one, why mess up the paint? It pisses me off, but it's true, People Do What They're Told.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
Yeah, well, if they try it there wont be a cop left alive, anywhere. This is what happens when you only hire morons. If you have too high an IQ, they dont want you carrying a gun and a badge. THey already lost. They are just too stupid to know it.
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I'm still not clear on why the military is or was there. This was one man who if I'm not mistaken killed himself. Government flexing its muscle. Testing the system? That would not make me feel safer. But I guess that's just me.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
I put them on the back glass of my pick-up. Maybe I should get the Ron Paul was Right one, to go along with my Ron Paul for President one.... ;-)
"Government flexing its muscle. Testing the system?" I don't think you are too far off, in your line of thinking.. "That would not make me feel safer. But I guess that's just me." Me neither.. but that's just me ;-)
Excuse me but
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#2. To: Rotara (#1)
FUCK MIAC
#3. To: Refinersfire (#2)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#4. To: Rotara (#3)
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#5. To: Bub (#4)
We who revere the Constitution are the best and finest friends of lawfully vested police, yet their "Us vs.them" attitude cuts off any reasoning beyond what their Paymaster tells them.
#6. To: christine (#5)
#7. To: Refinersfire (#0)
#8. To: Bub (#4)
....very sad to realize that, when the shooting starts, many or most of our lawfully vested law authorities will be shooting at fine, decent, law-abiding Americans, and those authorities will be absolutely and erroneously convinced that they are shooting at "the enemy".
#9. To: Refinersfire (#0)
Case in point: After the lunatic in Alabama's recent killing spree, the streets of the small town where it happened were patrolled by armed soldiers from nearby fort Rucker. While some would say that's a reasonable response to such a violent event, especially in light of the terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India recently, the fact of the matter is that armed military troops patrolling the streets of America is ILLEGAL. The military is for fighting foreign enemies in wars, not enforcing laws in the US. There are specific and clear proscriptions against military involvement in civil affairs. Whether their use in this case was "harmless," or "reasonable," or "appropriate," the fact remains that it is absolutely ILLEGAL and must not be done. If we the people wish to change that, we need to address it Constitutionally and legislatively, not just allow the government to ignore the law.
#10. To: Dakmar (#7)
but I hate bumper stickers. I've never changed my mind over one, why mess up the paint?
#11. To: phantom patriot (#9)
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