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Title: MISSOURI STATE POLICE THINK YOU AND I ARE TERRORISTS (Chuck Baldwin)
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URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin498.htm
Published: Mar 16, 2009
Author: Chuck Baldwin
Post Date: 2009-03-16 21:06:36 by christine
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Comments: 26
Thanks to a concerned Missouri state policeman, a nationally syndicated radio talk show host stated that he was alerted last week to a secret Missouri state police report that categorized supporters of Congressman Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and myself as "'militia' influenced terrorists." The report, he said, "instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties." Ignoring the threat of Muslim terrorists, the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) report focuses on the so-called "militia movement" and "conflates it with supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, the so-called patriot movement and other political activist organizations opposed to the North American Union and the New World Order." This report is not original, of course. During the Clinton administration, a Phoenix Federal Bureau of Investigation and Joint Terrorism Task Force explicitly designated "defenders" of the Constitution as "right-wing extremists." However, the MIAC report significantly expands on earlier documents and is the first known document to actually name names. According to the MIAC, opposition to world government, NAFTA, federalization of the states, and restrictive gun laws are a potential threat to the police. The MIAC report also refers to Aaron Russo's film, "America: Freedom to Fascism." The story exposing the MIAC report states, "The MIAC report is particularly pernicious because it indoctrinates Missouri law enforcement in the belief that people who oppose confiscatory taxation, believe in the well-documented existence of a New World Order and world government (a Google search of this phrase will pull up numerous references made by scores of establishment political leaders), and are opposed to the obvious expansion of the federal government at the expense of the states as violent extremists who are gunning for the police. It specifically targets supporters of mainstream political candidates and encourages police officers to consider them dangerous terrorists." See the report here: The Columbia Daily Tribune also carried the story last Saturday. It quoted Missouri resident Tim Neal of Miller County. "When Neal read the report, he couldn't help but think it described him. A military veteran and a delegate to the 2008 Missouri Republican state convention, he didn't appreciate being lumped in with groups like the Neo-Nazis. "'I was going down the list and thinking, "Check, that's me,"' he said. 'I'm a Ron Paul supporter, check. I talk about the North American union, check. I've got the "America: Freedom to Fascism" video loaned out to somebody right now. So that means I'm a domestic terrorist? Because I've got a video about the Federal Reserve?'" The Tribune's report also acknowledges, "The [MIAC] report's most controversial passage states that militia 'most commonly associate with third-party political groups' and support presidential candidates such as Ron Paul, former Constitutional [sic] Party candidate Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr, the Libertarian candidate last year." The Tribune report also said, "Neal, who has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car, said the next time he is pulled over by a police officer, he won't know whether it's because he was speeding or because of his political views." See the Columbia Tribune report here: I realize that there are people who will dismiss this kind of story as insignificant. They shouldn't. This is very serious and should be treated as such. Anyone who knows anything at all about history knows that before a state or national government can persecute--and commit acts of violence against--a group of people, they must first marginalize the group from society's mainstream and categorize it as dangerous. Rome did exactly that to Christians, as did Mao's China; Hitler's Germany did the same thing to Jews; Stalin's Russia did the same thing to political dissenters, etc. That a State police agency in America would actually infer that people who supported Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself in a political campaign are somehow indistinguishable from violence-prone "militias" is beyond insulting: it is a smear campaign, and might should even be regarded as a hate crime! Beyond that, the MIAC report paints with a very broad brush. In addition to supporting Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself, a review of the report reveals that opposition to any of the following risks someone being classified as a potential "domestic terrorist": The New World Order The United Nations Gun Control The violation of Posse Comitatus The Federal Reserve The Income Tax The Ammunition Accountability Act A possible Constitutional Convention (Con Con) The North American Union Universal Service Program Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) Abortion on demand Illegal Immigration Again, if you oppose any of the above, or if you supported Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself, you risk being labeled a "domestic terrorist," according to the MIAC. Do you not see how dangerous this kind of slanderous labeling can become? It could affect your flight status when you try to board an airline. It could affect your application for sensitive jobs. It could affect your adjudication before a court or judge. It could make you a target for aggressive law enforcement strategies. It could affect your being able to obtain a passport. It could affect one's ability to purchase a firearm or receive a State concealed weapon permit. This is very serious business! We are not talking about private opinions. We are talking about law enforcement agencies. And remember, most law enforcement agencies share these types of reports; therefore, how many other state police agencies have similar reports floating around? Probably several. Plus, how do we know that this report was not influenced by federal police agencies? We don't. Rest assured, I do not plan to take this lying down. As one who is personally named in the above report, I demand a public retraction and apology from the MIAC and Missouri State Police. I can tell you that my family is extremely distraught that their husband, father, and grandfather would be labeled in such a manner. I am also not ruling out legal action. In addition, I am discussing an appropriate response with Ron Paul and Bob Barr. I will keep readers posted as to what comes of these discussions (as I am at liberty to do so, of course). In the meantime, I encourage everyone who believes in the freedom of speech and who believes that the MIAC report is an egregious miscarriage of justice to contact the appropriate Missouri police officials. Here is the contact information: Email address: Brandon.middleton@mshp.dps.mo.gov Missouri Information Analysis Center Division of Drugs & Crime Control P. O. Box 568 Jefferson City, MO 65102-0568 Phone: 573-751-6422 Toll Free: 866-362-6422 Fax: 573-751-9950 And lest one thinks that none of this concerns him or her, I would like to remind you of the lament of Martin Niemoeller back in the days of Hitler's Germany. Niemoeller was a decorated U-Boat Captain and pastor of great distinction. An avid anti-communist, Niemoeller at first supported Hitler's rise to power and was hesitant to oppose the violations of civil rights against various groups he personally found distasteful. It did not take long, however, before Niemoeller realized that when laws protecting the rights of all were removed from some, no one was safe--including him. Unfortunately, he learned his lesson too late, as he, too, was persecuted and imprisoned by Hitler's State Police. Here is what Niemoeller said about his indifference: "They came first for the communists, and I did not speak up- because I was not a communist; And then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak up - because I was not a trade unionist; And then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak up because I was not a Jew; And then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak up." So, those of you who think you have nothing to fear because you did not vote for Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or me, or because you do not live in the State of Missouri need to think again. As I have repeatedly said, we either have freedom for all, or we have freedom for none. Truly, secret police reports such as the one above threaten the liberties of us all. So, will you speak up now or wait until they come for you and no one is left to speak up?
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#1. To: All (#0)
bump
New World Order? I saw Herbert say it live on TV. Thousand Points of Light, too. Winning political campaigns are run by morons speaking gibberish, is that what we're supposed to believe in? Yet it works, that's the pisser of the whole thing, Goebbels was right.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
I'll call tomorrow and ask for a copy of their report. I'll ID myself, thus ensuring that my name is prominently placed on their dreaded 'list.' I'll report back here with the name of the person I spoke with and the time I called. If a few million more folks did the same thing, these silly people would find a new hole to crawl hide in. Good luck to Baldwin in his law suit. That's the way to attack this nonsense.
Rome did exactly that to Christians, as did Mao's China; Hitler's Germany did the same thing to Jews; Stalin's Russia did the same thing to political dissenters, etc. bump!
...and I sent a firm response to them - with my full I.D. I told them how foolish and wrong they are - that they should be ashamed. Big deal? Nah - but at least it was a negative response to the Fascist State. Things started going downhill when flogging was outlawed....
"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lodwick
i'll call too.
I'll be polite and explain that as a former police officer, I fit most of their categories. In fact, all of the officers I know would also fit, but I'll limit the discussion to me. I doubt I get their report, but by calling - by thousands of us calling - we can make them look like the asses they are.
Telephones are instruments of Satan himself, but I don't want you and Christine to get ahead of me so I'll use my telephone tomorrow (ugh!)
"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lodwick
ping
1st the POT (real terrorists) calls the Kettle (Patriot) black ... now is the appropriate time for the kettle to kick the black hearted POT's ass.
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
I'll call too ... tomorrow ! Fuckin assholes !
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
IOW, "I'll have to do it all by myself".
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I just called the Missouri Information Analysis Center. I spoke with a male
receptionist who took my name and phone number. A Sgt. Clark will be returning
my call regarding the requested report. I'll follow up after I speak to him.
Sgt. Clark was kind enough to call me back just a moment ago. The document does exist, but isn't available to the public. He said it has been mischaracterized, and that under no circumstances would members of Missouri police departments be making car stops based on Ron Paul bumper stickers, American flag stickers, etc. I thanked him and wished him well in trying to deal with the public perception the document has created. As of now my vacation plans to Branson remain on hold until I further assess the situation :)
Excuse me. I know I went to school awile back but, doesn't this make them the terrorists? I mean with the oath and all.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
bump that!
boy, does he LIE thru his teeth.
He's pissed it's exposed. He'll be more pissed his words, and lies, are now the subject of a YouTube.
IOW, "I'll have to do it all by myself". Yup.
You bring the bumper stickers (and beer) and I'll bring the t-shirts (and burgers) and let's go have ourselves a time now ya hear !
By far the best possible candidate unavailable in the last selection. ;-)
bump that! Wow
Unfortunately for me I took all that freedom and liberty stuff a little too seriously when I was a kid. We are in better company as we are labelled along with the FOUNDERS.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
Rest assured, I do not plan to take this lying down. As one who is personally named in the above report, I demand a public retraction and apology from the MIAC and Missouri State Police. I can tell you that my family is extremely distraught that their husband, father, and grandfather would be labeled in such a manner. I am also not ruling out legal action. In addition, I am discussing an appropriate response with Ron Paul and Bob Barr. I will keep readers posted as to what comes of these discussions (as I am at liberty to do so, of course).
#2. To: christine (#0)
#3. To: christine, all (#0)
#4. To: christine (#0)
I realize that there are people who will dismiss this kind of story as insignificant. They shouldn't. This is very serious and should be treated as such. Anyone who knows anything at all about history knows that before a state or national government can persecute--and commit acts of violence against--a group of people, they must first marginalize the group from society's mainstream and categorize it as dangerous.
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
I'll call tomorrow and ask for a copy of their report. I'll ID myself....
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
#7. To: Bub, christine, all (#5)
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#8. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
#9. To: christine, *libertarians*, *Jack-Booted Thugs* (#0)
but the sheiks would shriek and the barons would bellow if hemp was made legal...and people became mellow
#10. To: christine (#1)
Rest assured, I do not plan to take this lying down.
#11. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
#12. To: christine, All (#1)
In addition, I am discussing an appropriate response with Ron Paul and Bob Barr. I will keep readers posted as to what comes of these discussions (as I am at liberty to do so, of course).
#13. To: All (#12)
#14. To: All (#13)
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#15. To: christine (#0)
a Phoenix Federal Bureau of Investigation and Joint Terrorism Task Force explicitly designated "defenders" of the Constitution as "right-wing extremists."
#16. To: phantom patriot (#15)
Excuse me. I know I went to school awile back but, doesn't this make them the terrorists? I mean with the oath and all.
#17. To: All (#14)
#18. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
#19. To: christine (#18)
#20. To: PSUSA (#12)
In addition, I am discussing an appropriate response with Ron Paul and Bob Barr. I will keep readers posted as to what comes of these discussions (as I am at liberty to do so, of course).
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
Sgt. Clark was kind enough to call me back just a moment ago. The document does exist, but isn't available to the public. He said it has been mischaracterized, and that under no circumstances would members of Missouri police departments be making car stops based on Ron Paul bumper stickers, American flag stickers, etc. I thanked him and wished him well in trying to deal with the public perception the document has created. As of now my vacation plans to Branson remain on hold until I further assess the situation :)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#22. To: Chuck Baldwin, *Constitution Party* (#0)
Thanks for stepping up once again, Chuck.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#23. To: phantom patriot (#15)
"Proud to be a 'domestic terrorist' for almost 40 years !"
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#24. To: christine, phantom patriot, All (#16)
Excuse me. I know I went to school awile back but, doesn't this make them the terrorists? I mean with the oath and all.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
Plunge !
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#26. To: Rotara (#23)
"Proud to be a 'domestic terrorist' for almost 40 years !"
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