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"Somewhere around the middle of the World Trade Center, there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode. The popping sound, and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then a red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as I could see. These popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger, going both up and down and then all around the building." [Karin Deshore - Captain (E.M.S.)]
Video showing the collapse of World Trade Center 2.
Here's the quote in full from the White House website.
"For example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of planned attacks of buildings inside the U.S. and how operatives were directed to carry them out."
"That is valuable information for those of us who have the responsibility to protect the American people. He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a high -- a point that was high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping."
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In an online interview, Forbes said that the power down which took place the weekend before the attack was "unprecedented" and required a shutdown of the top 50 floors of the south tower - the reason for the shutdown was given as "re-cabling."
"The power outage meant that many of the 'ordinary' building features were not operating, such as security locks on doors, cameras, lighting, etc."
Forbes said the sight of strange men in overalls going in and out of the building with tools was highly unusual and that the "coincidence" of it occurring days before the attack was highly suspicious.
The sight of the jumpers was horrible and the turning around and seeing that first tower come down was unbelievable. The sound it made. As I said I thought the terrorists planted explosives somewhere in the building. That's how loud it was, crackling explosive, a wall. That's about it. Any questions? [James Drury - Assistant Commissioner (F.D.N.Y.)]
If this is true I hope the neocon bastards and others who did this slow rot in hell.
This 110-story steel-framed office building suffered a fire on the 11th floor on February 13, 1975. The loss was estimated at over $2000000. ... www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_1975_fire.html - 9k - Cached -
if you double click on the vid, it will take you to the youtube page. you'll see parts 2 and 3 linked there too. i've met, talked to, and heard Willie's story at 3 different 911 conferences. his speeches are always the highlight. he's a genuine hero.
could ewwcon or peradventure even beachloser have signed up here as war? probably just some vulcan mind meld thingy.
Could even be playing devil's advocate, who knows? The name calling seems to be a different tactic though. But maybe Yukie's due to retire and they are having tryouts for his part in the play.
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#2081. To: IRTorqued, James Deffenbach, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, mininggold, war (#2069)
could ewwcon or peradventure even beachloser have signed up here as war? probably just some vulcan mind meld thingy.
war behaved the same way over on LP when the topic of 9/11 came up. He pretty much had the same story, he was there so it couldn't have happened any differently than what the government says...
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Then, on the 33rd floor, they heard what sounded like heavy equipment being dragged across the level above.
This was particularly puzzling because Rodriguez knew the 34th floor was empty and had been off limits for weeks due to a construction project.
christine...after I watched, I believe it was in part 5 of the video, the above story....I recall I have heard him speak before. It may have been on t.v., or it may have been in a video I watched of him years ago...and forgot about his story, except for the above. That part of it I recall, and I have never heard anyone address this.
I presume it was just another item that the commission also overlooked?!
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The time t required for an object to fall from a height h (in a vacuum) is given by the formula t = sqrt(2h/g), where g is the acceleration due to gravity. Thus an object falling from the top of one of the towers (taking h = 1306 feet and g = 32.174 ft/sec2) would take 9.01 seconds to hit the ground if we ignore the resistance of the air and a few seconds longer if we take air resistance into account. The Twin Towers each collapsed in less than fifteen seconds, close to free fall. Following the start of the collapse the upper floors would have had to shatter the steel joints in all 85 or so floors at the lower levels. If this required only one second per floor then the collapse would have required more than a minute. But the material from the upper floors ploughed through the lower floors at a speed of at least six floors per second. This is possible only if all structural support in the lower 85 or so floors had been completely eliminated prior to the initiation of the collapse. Since the lower floors were undamaged by the plane impacts and the fires, the removal of all structural support in these floors must have been due to some other cause and the most obvious possibility is explosives. Thus the speed of the collapse (not much more than the time of free fall) is conclusive evidence that the Twin Towers were brought down in a controlled demolition involving the use of explosives (or some other destructive technology) at all levels.
we got stuck in Portsmouth England for six weeks during euro97, had a blast asking the limeys what they did for the fourth of July so I'll hardly have a problem calling a bimbette a bimbo.
Then, on the 33rd floor, they heard what sounded like heavy equipment being dragged across the level above.
This was particularly puzzling because Rodriguez knew the 34th floor was empty and had been off limits for weeks due to a construction project.
John ONeill begins his new job as head of security at the WTC. ONeill had been the special agent in charge of the FBIs National Security Division in New York, and was the bureaus top expert on al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. [New York Magazine, 12/17/2001; New Yorker, 1/14/2002] Hed left his job with the FBI just the day before (see August 22, 2001). His friend Jerome Hauer, who is the former head of New Yorks Office of Emergency Management, had found him the job at the World Trade Center. Developer Larry Silverstein, who recently took over the lease of the WTC (see July 24, 2001), had been highly impressed with ONeill but insisted he start in the post no later than the first week of September, when his firm Silverstein Properties is set to assume control of the buildings. ONeill had agreed to this. [Weiss, 2003, pp. 336-338, 345-346 and 349-351] After hearing that ONeill has got this job, Chris Isham, a senior producer at ABC News who is a close friend, says to him, Well, that will be an easy job. Theyre not going to bomb that place again. ONeill replies, Well actually theyve always wanted to finish that job. I think theyre going to try again. [PBS Frontline, 5/31/2002] After a few days as the WTC security director, ONeill will move into his new office on the 34th floor of the South Tower. [Weiss, 2003, pp. 353-354 and 366]
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"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The Twin Towers each collapsed in less than fifteen seconds, close to free fall..............If this required only one second per floor then the collapse would have required more than a minute. [That means more than 60 seconds]
Since the lower floors were undamaged by the plane impacts and the fires, the removal of all structural support in these floors must have been due to some other cause and the most obvious possibility is explosives. Thus the speed of the collapse (not much more than the time of free fall) is conclusive evidence that the Twin Towers were brought down in a controlled demolition involving the use of explosives (or some other destructive technology) at all levels.
But war is quibbling over minutia of seconds....when it shouldn't have even been able to happen by less than 1 minute if all the structural support were in place.
Then, on the 33rd floor, they heard what sounded like heavy equipment being dragged across the level above.
This was particularly puzzling because Rodriguez knew the 34th floor was empty and had been off limits for weeks due to a construction project.
christine...after I watched, I believe it was in part 5 of the video, the above story....I recall I have heard him speak before. It may have been on t.v., or it may have been in a video I watched of him years ago...and forgot about his story, except for the above. That part of it I recall, and I have never heard anyone address this.
war did, on this thread, says William in so many words is a liar.
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