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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
Author: m e
Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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#427. To: palo verde (#336)
Wells and eschoir are up there...
He led the charge to stop the illegal alien invaders obtaining amnesty when Jorge was throwing the gates of hell open upon America by them. Few others stood with him and against Bush and Congress on that at the time. As far as his entire history in the senate, I'm certain that he isn't nearly as conservative as he should be....but you asked if any weren't fake. I'll still say, imo, Jeff Sessions is one of those. Zell Miller is/was too.
I will grant you that he probably isn't spending any of his own money but the rest of your post is just more bs. He won't even help his own brother, or half brother, who lives in Kenya on about a dollar a day. I don't know why you Obots think he is so wonderful.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. neocon / neocom bump
Dude....you know you have Douchensack™ when he starts responding with this nonsense...
Why do you assume Vitel was the founder source? He didn't write in English, and merely wrote about what he thinks a natural born citizen should be. Natural born, has meant since the 16th century, inherent from birth. Oxford English dictionary has defined it that way since before the constitution was written. So natural born citizen means citizen from birth. At the time of the constitution someone who was born here not of two citizens wasn't a citizen, but that changed after the 14th amendment. Think about it. Obama studied and taught constitutional law. Do you really think he'd write a book about his obviously non-citizen father and think he could get away with it. How did Obama run for president for about two years and nobody mention this? How come this new definition only appeared when the Birthers couldn't find evidence of his foreign birth, and only a week before his election. Use some common sense.
You believe both of them to be faux conservatives, as well?
"Obama... is not a "natural born citizen" because his father was a Kenyan national and a British subject. To be a natural born citizen, a person's parents must BOTH be citizens of the United States of America. Further, that person must be born in the United States. is a "citizen" because his mother was an American citizen. There are question about his birthplace and whether he was naturalized after his period of time as an Indonesian citizen. may be a "native born citizen" -- a child born in the United States of foreign (non-citizen) parents. He will have to release his birth certificate, which he hasn't, to ascertain this status. "
I don't think our government is illegitimate. Its got some major fucking problems, but nothing that we can't solve by electing better people.
Use some common sense. Why don't YOU use some "common sense" and tell us all why your hero won't produce his real birth certificate? Of course the reason you don't use any is because you don't have any.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. The meanin of 'is'. F**king Otards.
I will grant you that he probably isn't spending any of his own money but the rest of your post is just more bs. He won't even help his own brother, or half brother, who lives in Kenya on about a dollar a day. I don't know why you Obots think he is so wonderful. I'm not an Obot. I only want to see the world as it really is. Obama is the legal president, and recognizing that doesn't make me a fanatical Obama supporter. Just like me knowing Bush was the President didn't make me a bush bot.
uh huh.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Pull up their voting records, look at our Constitution and you tell me ! ;-)
Your chart is bullshit. Read the laws and opinions it cites, and nothing in them says what it claims.
Why don't YOU use some "common sense" and tell us all why your hero won't produce his real birth certificate? Of course the reason you don't use any is because you don't have any Because he doesn't have to, and gains nothing by doing so.
(a) No, you don't, and (b) there is no way you can know that because the Obamasiah refuses to produce his birth certificate. Don't you feel foolish defending that?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Sessions supported Bush on Iraq, Afghanistan and in most areas of "free trade." If that's a conservative to you, it's no wonder we have a lawn jockey as president.
Why don't YOU use some "common sense" and tell us all why your hero won't produce his real birth certificate? Of course the reason you don't use any is because you don't have any Because he doesn't have to, and gains nothing by doing so. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahahhahahahahahhaahahAHAHAHAHAaaahahhhaaaahahaha !
Please cite the Title, Chapter and Section of the US Code to which you are referring. Thanks... Further, that person must be born in the United States. We'll correct you on this one after you source US law on the former...
The OED wasn't around when the Constitution was written. Are there any other facts you're making up as you go along?
"He doesn't have to" sounds like a kid's argument--a retarded kid. He would have gained a few hundred thousand dollars, or at least not had to spend it (and it was probably someone else's so he really didn't care) if he would have simply produced the actual birth certificate. And I can only think of two reasons why he insists on keeping it hidden. Either it shows that he was not born in Hawaii as he claims or it may show that his father is not who he says. I can think of no reason, other than those two, why he would refuse to show it. But keep on defending him. I am sure he appreciates gullible stooges.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Maybe it has Daddy's real name on there. ~(%^|
There's your problem right there.
Well I had to find out: "First spouse or friend or what?? I think it sort of proves your point. What happens if Queen Latifah becomes President someday? Hillary would have a cow. edited.
Do you need to be reminded as to how resoundingly I bitch slapped you - to the point of humiliation - over this Moonbat belief?
The OED wasn't around when the Constitution was written. Are there any other facts you're making up as you go along? You are right I'm sorry. The Oxford English Dictionary lists it as being defined that since the 16th century. It didn't actually list it in 1790s because like you said it didn't exist. I'm sorry for spreading false info.
"He doesn't have to" sounds like a kid's argument--a retarded kid. No its the simple truth. He doesn't have to and its not hurting him at all.
"He doesn't have to" sounds like a kid's argument--a retarded kid. No its the simple truth. He doesn't have to and its not hurting him at all. LOL LMAO !! STOP IT ALREADY !!! FOFLOL
Link to the bitch-slap. As I recall, I gave you an education in Vattel and the writing of the Constitution.
You sound testy. Do you need a nap?
No I'm fussy cause I'm hungry.
ROFL!
Yeah, that could be it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You think discussion on sites like Freedom4um or FreeRepublic, and law suits by Berg, and Keyes mean anything in the real world? You exist on the fringe of the political map, you must know that. It doesn't necessarily mean you are wrong, but if you don't realized you represent a tiny fraction of the American people how can you hope to actually do anything.
Thanks... Did you look at the chart? Let's try it again. You need to actually click on the link and a whole new page will open up.
Why did the Framers use the specific term 'natural born citizen' instead of just citizen?
Why can't you answer wars question?
May I offer you some gubmit cheese?
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#428. To: Jethro Tull (#424)
#429. To: Rhino369 (#421)
There is no evidence that he is spending any money.
Lord Acton
#430. To: litus (#428)
Jeff Sessions is one of those. Zell Miller is/was too.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#431. To: James Deffenbach, Rhino369 (#341)
Yeah, that Magickal Jet Fuel™. Just takes a few drops apparently. No plane hit it but a few drops of the Magickal Jet Fuel™ must have splashed on it.
#432. To: bluegrass (#422)
A natural born citizen, per the understanding of the men that wrote the Constitution, is someone born on the country's soil of two citizen parents. Read Emmerich Vattel for the source of the Framers' understanding of the term. Obama's daddy's citizenship makes Obama ineligible.
#433. To: Rotara (#430)
#434. To: Rhino369 (#414)
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn.htm
#435. To: bluegrass (#425)
Never mind me. What are YOU doing to stop an illegitimate government? Thus far, I've only seen you defend its existence.
#436. To: Rhino369 (#432)
How come this new definition only appeared when the Birthers couldn't find evidence of his foreign birth, and only a week before his election.
Lord Acton
#437. To: James Deffenbach (#429)
I will grant you that he probably isn't spending any of his own money but the rest of your post is just more bs.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#438. To: James Deffenbach (#429)
#439. To: Rhino369 (#435)
I don't think our government is illegitimate.
Lord Acton
#440. To: litus (#433)
You believe both of them to be faux conservatives, as well?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#441. To: nooz (#434)
#442. To: James Deffenbach (#436)
#443. To: nooz (#434)
maybe crayons would help them to understand more better
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#444. To: Rhino369 (#438)
I only want to see the world as it really is. Obama is the legal president
Lord Acton
#445. To: litus (#428)
#446. To: Rhino369 (#442)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#447. To: nooz (#434)
To be a natural born citizen, a person's parents must BOTH be citizens of the United States of America.
#448. To: Rhino369 (#432)
Oxford English dictionary has defined it that way since before the constitution was written.
#449. To: Rhino369 (#442)
Because he doesn't have to, and gains nothing by doing so.
Lord Acton
#450. To: James Deffenbach (#449)
I can think of no reason, other than those two, why he would refuse to show it. But keep on defending him. I am sure he appreciates gullible stooges.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#451. To: Rhino369 (#435)
I don't think our government is illegitimate.
#452. To: James Deffenbach (#426)
(Edited)
I have always thought that "First Lady" was pure bs--why would any man call someone else's wife "the first lady"? Some ah member of the press fawning over one of them for a story must have come up with that idiocy.
#453. To: bluegrass (#422)
Obama's a citizen, but not a natural born citizen.
#454. To: bluegrass (#448)
#455. To: James Deffenbach (#449)
#456. To: Rhino369 (#455)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#457. To: war (#453)
#458. To: Rhino369 (#441)
Your chart is bullshit. Read the laws and opinions it cites, and nothing in them says what it claims.
#459. To: All, bluegrass (#454)
#460. To: nooz (#458)
You sound testy. Do you need a nap?
#461. To: Rotara (#443)
maybe crayons would help them to understand more better
#462. To: Rotara (#450)
Maybe it has Daddy's real name on there. ~(%^|
Lord Acton
#463. To: Rotara (#456)
LOL LMAO !! STOP IT ALREADY !!! FOFLOL
#464. To: war (#447)
Please cite the Title, Chapter and Section of the US Code to which you are referring.
#465. To: Rhino369 (#454)
#466. To: nooz, war (#464)
#467. To: Rhino369 (#460)
No I'm fussy cause I'm hungry.
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