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[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Mar 21, 2009 Author:m e Post Date:2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate Keywords:None Views:14061 Comments:2261
There are some people who think the reason is because the father named on the birth certificate isn't named Obama.
I don't know what to think myself,other than the obvious fact there is SOMETHING fishy about it or he would have produced it long ago.
Anyone who has any sense at all knows that you don't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to hide a document that you could produce for less than twenty dollars if there wasn't something about it that was either very embarrassing or showed that you were not born where you claimed. Has to be one or the other I would think.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
Anyone who has any sense at all knows that you don't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to hide a document that you could produce for less than twenty dollars if there wasn't something about it that was either very embarrassing or showed that you were not born where you claimed. Has to be one or the other I would think.
He had more campaign cash than God. This is a guy whose wife orders $500 in caviar for a light afternoon snack, the same guy whose credit rating was so bad he couldn't qualify for a rental car at the 2000 Democrat convention.
The birth certificate has become a Weapon Of Mass Distraction, a windmill for the Birthers to tilt at.
If he had no such controversy for the Right to chew on (and discredit themselves with), he would have had to pay someone to invent one for him.
it's a certification of live birth, as distinguished from a "certificate of live birth" and gives the place of birth as Honolulu, HI.
Cite the statutory language from the Hawaii State Code that, for purposes of establishing place of birth within its jurisdiction, that certificate lacks legal standing to do so.
Thanks.
That asked, on that form it clearly states that it is a) a certificate b) a true copy or abstract of what is on file and c) valid in any legal proceeding.
Mike is a good guy even though his politics suck,and he posted over on LP for a long time before he was banned. I can't remember why he was banned right now,but I remember that he was. I forget where he is posting now.
It is becoming painfully obvious that we may very well have a criminal President in 2009. No this isnt a joke. What I speak of is the curious developments in the supposedly racist, biased, dumb, as well as insane case of where Obama was born. Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate
A strange development indeed is how it is that every time Barack Obama or a family member tells of where Obama was born, they seem to have no idea as of December 2008.
They seemed to know what hospital quite a few times months ago when it was claimed that Obamas mother gave birth to him at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu - Obama and Mom Never Here
The Queens Medical Center 1301 Punchbowl StreetHonolulu, HI 96813 Link to Site Phone number 808-538-9011 General Medical Records 808-547-4361. After it was concluded that Obama and his mother were never there, his sister was in an interview (Mary) and claimed that Obama was born at Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children - Obama and Mom Never Here 1319 Punahou StreetHonolulu, Hawaii 96826(808) 535-7000 Link to site
Hospital after Hospital - all Have No Record of Obama being born or Mom Ever being There. Hospital after hospital in Honolulu all have NO RECORD of Obama or mother ever being there. Is this some state secret? Are we to believe that even the hospital that he was born in should remain secret? Why lie to us as if it matters I mean the man did win the Presidential vote? Why the lies and secrecy? We already know that Obamas family and the entire nation of Kenya (which is about to have a national holiday for Obama) know that Barack Obama was born in Mombasa Coastal Hospital in Kenya. The government of Kenya has sealed these records. More and more secrecy due to the fact that once proven, Obama will not be constitutionally allowed to become President of the United States!
Hospital after Hospital - all Have No Record of Obama being born
You just lied Douchenbag.
Obama's birth records at every point are protected by the law. What that means, Moonie, is that a hospital could not tell you whether Obama was born there or not. So anyone claiming that aq hospital has no record, when, in fact, no record can be obtained except by Obama, is a fucking liar.
. As I recall, I gave you an education in Vattel and the writing of the Constitution.
Your memory is faulty.
Vattel is not legal code and, in fact, he states that a few paragraphs into his commentary. English common law is not American law as there is no Constitutional common law.
He is a Republican congressman that wasn't allowed in the White House for the last 8 years. He represents eastern NC,which includes Camp Lejune. About 2 years ago he gave a anti-Iraq war speech to the Marines at Camp Lejune,and got a standing ovation.
He is also a practicing Catholic,and gets elected by overwhelming percentages in fundie Protestant NC.
He is also a practicing Catholic,and gets elected by overwhelming percentages in fundie Protestant NC.
Didn't know he was a papist though that's fine with me either way. What impressed me more was his courage in being so antiwar in such a strongly military congressional district with so many military retirees and veterans. That took guts and I think he sweated it for a bit and decided to take a stand on conscience even if it cost him re-election. He is, naturally, a good friend of Ron Paul's and got some campaign money from RP's PAC too.
You were linked to a report and a graph that makes your characterization look stupid. Yet there you go again.
Excuse me? The idiotic report you linked gave a minimum collapse speed LESS than the time it would take for a free fall through air, and the chart simply reflected the actual times of the collapse vs an object dropping through thin air.
Did you miss the one that I posted to YOU, indicating it should have taken about 97 seconds?
BTW. Have you ever REALLY looked at any of the collapse photos? It's obvious that MUCH of the top structure's mass disintegrated into dust and was blown out sideways. That being the case, how was there enough mass left over to cause the structure below to collapse?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Here's some cocks for you, you might find one you like.
Just try not to choke on them, the giant ones would be a bit difficult to swallow I'd think.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The recent favorite is meguro and a couple of others calling me a Kluxxer,despite the fact that I'm not even white,and last time I heard,they weren't accepting people with Indian blood.