Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;) Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Mar 21, 2009 Author:m e Post Date:2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate Keywords:None Views:15972 Comments:2261
Wow. That insult used to be tossed around on LP against a lot of people here. How ironic the cycle starts again on a thread speculating about LP's demise.
Amazing how we become what we hate most, isn't it Rotara?
Amazing how we become what we hate most, isn't it Rotara?
Speak for yourself.
I'm carrying open just like always, Obamalamadingdong lover.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
It has been a while, but Tena was a (from what I recall) a terribly muddy bus stop on the way to Muswhie(a lousy spelling) and the initial departure for a long canoue trip down the Rio Napo to the great named town of Coca, maybe about twenty miles from the Puervian Border.
This was one of the greatest trips I have ever had in my life.
You have a way with words. You assume I am up to no good by announcing that I don't care for Alex Jones and have reason to think he is not what he portrays himself to be. On that lone bit of info alone you hurl insults. Did Alex teach you to act that way?
I don't know why Neil thought Obama would be any different than the rest. I hope he realizes he was wrong about that now. But even if he doesn't, insulting someone for something they sincerely believe, even if they are wrong, is childish and counterproductive to a mutual understanding of the issues.
I was in a bus with a Portugause girl, who on the trip to Musiane, (sp) was energic and interested in men.
Well my cousin and my self had a world class wonderful time playing guitar and singing ballads while the Rio Napo flowed behind us with the locals.
A wonderful memory, really.
One of the locals was Juan, and he was a great drinker, good guitar player and had some fine weed which he was generous to share in this remote star splayed skies of the Southern Hemisphere
The skies that night were beyound description..
Well all of this has a good ending.
Prolly about two AYM Juan comes rolling into our "hotel" room and grabs a matteress, and hauls it out-, my cousin and I are are hardly awake, and off goes Juan and a matteress.
Well what do we care.
So the next day,as we have tickets (haha)on the boat run to Coca, here appears Juan and his new girl friend, dragging our mattress back to out room.
Turns out that Juan was the Captian of our longboat the next day, and he did am admirable job (really) of dealin with all the serous rapids of the Rio Napo.
Was a frekking wonderful trip.
Spent the night in Coco, and some how caught a military plane to Quito, and the pilot was king enough to fly around the massive mountins there.
i'm sorry for the animosity between you and JT, Neil, but it has nothing to do with me. this should be between the two of you. i don't appreciate being included in your insult to him as i'm sure he won't, but since you did, i will say that i strongly disagree with your assessment.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
I don't know why Neil thought Obama would be any different than the rest. I hope he realizes he was wrong about that now. But even if he doesn't, insulting someone for something they sincerely believe, even if they are wrong, is childish and counterproductive to a mutual understanding of the issues.
I never suggested anyone vote for Obama. I've always suggested voting for either Ron Paul, as a write-in if/when necessary, or Barr, the LP candidate. Yet my casual observations about what might be different between Obama and McCain was apparently successfully exploited by a shill or two here to damage my reputation. And a few here were apparently (at best) careless enough to fall for it, and too close minded to see that they were successfully duped. And they continue to carry on the work of those shills.
I understand we have differing opinions on JT, and that's fine.
But I think the record on this thread of his completely unsolicited attacks on me on this evening speaks for itself, and supports my assessment quite strongly. I believe that any unbiased person reviewing it would agree.
And if I feel 4um is a place where it's open season for unwarranted attacks on my reputation, I'll close my account and go for good.
OK, I kind of thought you were for Obama over McCain but I guess I was wrong.
When the establishment controls who are the choices for President then it is a safe bet they differ very slightly on the issues to the point of being insignificant.
Hey shit for brains, Neil is the person that made this forum you're spewing shit on possible. He partnered with Goldi-Lox to create LP, and gave us 4um with the hostess (and owner) being christine.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you shit for brains. You should get on your knees and apologize for being such a major asshole.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Hey Neil, don't disappear off into the sunset. You've got some people here that look up to you and appreciate what you've done, and that includes me.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#1359. To: Pinguinite, TwentyTwelve, christine, Rotara, all (#1355)
I understand we have differing opinions on JT, and that's fine.
But I think the record on this thread of his completely unsolicited attacks on me on this evening speaks for itself, and supports my assessment quite strongly. I believe that any unbiased person reviewing it would agree.
And if I feel 4um is a place where it's open season for unwarranted attacks on my reputation, I'll close my account and go for good.
Let it be water off of a Duck's back. If I allowed all the attacks and name calling I've taken bother me I would have slit my wrists a long time ago. I'm sure that would have made a few shills happy.
I still recall your stand on the thread that got TwentyTwelve and I banned for pointing out that Goldi-Pox was a stinking lying hypocritical Israel Firster. Of course I was a bit more decorous before the banning. ;-)
You need not be bothered by the misapprehensions of others. Seek first and only your own approval. Of course it doesn't hurt to have God on your side either.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
In reference to your analogy of a pole, are you trying to say that the towers were swaying all over the place?
Had you ever been in the towers? You could feel the sway in the upper floors. This one is the easiest of your rantings to bitch slap. The towers swayed...it 's why lateral support was so important. And, uh, the design engineers after they had tested their prototypes that determined how much sway both the building and the occupants could take, they then developed a MASSIVE system of viscoelastic dampers that mitigated the sway. Guess where they put these dampers....BETWEEN THE TRUSSES AND THE PERIMETER COLUMNS.
Your problem is that you've assumed a conclusion, i.e. "BOOOSH BRUNG DOWN THE TOWERS!!!" and are trying to construct a fairy tale based upon Moonbatism Your further problem is, there are several REALITIES that stand in the way of your paranoiac fanrasy. So to cut to the chase here and answer your question...yes, Alice IN Wonderland, the towers did sway and the lost of perimeter support exacerbated that sway.
Doof...that is a) the lower structure of the tower and that has has been pointed out to you more than once and b) you are mistaking 1) crane supports and 2) concrete forms for support beams.
the exterior wall ...[was] NOT built to be a vertical load bearing part of the structure
Nope. That is just plain incorrect.
In terms of structural system the twin towers departed completely from other high-rise buildings. Conventional skyscrapers since the 19th century have been built with a skeleton of interior supporting columns that supports the structure. Exterior walls of glass steel or synthetic material do not carry any load. The Twin towers are radically different in structural design as the exterior wall is used as the load-bearing wall. (A load bearing wall supports the weight of the floors.) The only interior columns are located in the core area, which contains the elevators. The outer wall carries the building vertical loads and provides the entire resistance to wind. The wall consists of closely spaced vertical columns (21 columns 10 feet apart) tied together by horizontal spandrel beams that girdle the tower at every floor. On the inside of the structure the floor sections consist of trusses spanning from the core to the outer wall.
Nobody who was present during your Obama, gun-grabbing wish list presentation last Fall will ever forget your words, so stop trying to play the martyr. You're a gold plated fraud, nothing more, nothing less.
Did you email her to state your case,or did you just say "screw it!" and accept it?
Trying to reason with Moldy Lox is like trying to reason with a bagel. I just moved on, though I did revive the screen name here just to spite the kikes.
As for Neil, it seems that he has caught up somewhat. The conditioning to avoid discussion of the Jewish power structures runs deep and it takes some longer than others to catch on. Nothing will change until the political discussion encompasses all of the power structures involved. I think it's turning in that direction now.
The center of gravity doesn't change until the load shifts
Doh...
You're flying by the seat of your pants and they need mending, dude...
The center of gravity does not move, however the forces on the remaining supports change. Center of gravity isn't the correct term. Increasing in magnitude and changing in direction. This creates a torque on the supports where there were none before. This creates a shear stress in the steel supports, in addition to increasing the regular stress from just holding up the tower with fewer supports.
I sent several of the links from my home computer to my work computer but I just copied and pasted them so I am not sure what I have here but I based that upon an analysis I had read that was complied by an engineer who said that the force of impact and resulting damage and which caused a weight shift implied that the center o gravity of actually shifted outside of the buildings' footptint. Now, I am not an engineer so I may have misunderstood his statement. It is that statement upon which I based my statement.
I sent several of the links from my home computer to my work computer but I just copied and pasted them so I am not sure what I have here but I based that upon an analysis I had read that was complied by an engineer who said that the force of impact and resulting damage and which caused a weight shift implied that the center o gravity of actually shifted outside of the buildings' footptint. Now, I am not an engineer so I may have misunderstood his statement. It is that statement upon which I based my statement.
The center of gravity could have moved, if, the tower was actually bent in the impact. Otherwise not really. But the point you are making still stands, you are just using the wrong, or inaccurate term.
I understand we have differing opinions on JT, and that's fine.
But I think the record on this thread of his completely unsolicited attacks on me on this evening speaks for itself, and supports my assessment quite strongly. I believe that any unbiased person reviewing it would agree.
And if I feel 4um is a place where it's open season for unwarranted attacks on my reputation, I'll close my account and go for good
Not that it matters, but I would hate to see you go Neil. You have more friends than enemies here.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 19731976
The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope
Let it be water off of a Duck's back. If I allowed all the attacks and name calling I've taken bother me I would have slit my wrists a long time ago. I'm sure that would have made a few shills happy.
I still recall your stand on the thread that got TwentyTwelve and I banned for pointing out that Goldi-Pox was a stinking lying hypocritical Israel Firster. Of course I was a bit more decorous before the banning. ;-)
You need not be bothered by the misapprehensions of others. Seek first and only your own approval. Of course it doesn't hurt to have God on your side either.
Good advice.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
Thanks...IIRC my physics correctly, C/G was simple geometry in basic structures - such as rectangles - as to where the average location of weight of an object was. IN a rectangle, again IIRC, it's height/2.
I'll amend my assessment of you. You're an absolutely clueless ass.
Your attempts at revisionism might fool the suckers - the fact is that you flat out shilled for the black Mussolini like a bleeding heart world socialist and it will never be forgotten, gun grabber.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
I believe he flows whichever way the world socialist hippie wind is blowing.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
I'm not falling for it, he's full of shit and he doesn't fool me for one nano.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Now, I am not an engineer so I may have misunderstood his statement.
In other words you have no idea of what you're talking about, and are simply cutting and pasting some terms you've read that were written by some guy who calls himself an engineer.
Guess what, I'M AN ENGINEER, so believe what I say.
Idiot.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen