Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;) Source:
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The Global Fascist State built with a compassionate communism is something I'm very well aware of.
Thanks for the links
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
When will people understand that what is happening is not the accident of voting.
It could be that the majority is simply not capable of surviving. I'm glad I'm not in the majority.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
When will people understand that what is happening is not the accident of voting.
The people are stupid always have been and always will be. Its just the way humans are. The vast majority are stupid, and have no capacity to understand complex things.
However I think you aren't grasping what is happening now either. American society has been controlled by the business class almost from the beginning. Some colonies like Virgina were freaking set up by corporations. Literally a corporation, Virgina Company.
America didn't have a nobility, we had a business class. This is because land was almost free, since you could always move west. In europe land was scarce, and true wealth was in owning land. In America wealth was always in commerce, and banking.
America established a national bank almost immediately. And the United States has had central banking its entire history save 1837-1864. Corporate influence over the United States has always been there.
What we are seeing is nothing new, nor particularly worse than before.
This is important to realize, because there are many things that need to be fixed, but if you view our current situations without the lens of history you will never accomplish anything. This isn't the end or the world or anything close.
It sounds like possibly you have read The Creature.. by G Edward.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
#120. To: F16Fighter, sneakypete, war, Itistoolate, all (#61)
(by F16Fighter)
Has Goldi ever neglected LP to this extent?
I'm inclined to believe a combination of the grief of dealing mentally disturbed whining posters, the wretched state of the Union, and pressures we may not be privy to in her personal life may have caused her to say "SCREW IT!"...even for a week or so and beyond. Hope she's alright.
Pulling the plug permanently? Hey - who knows.
F16Fighter/Liberator
Hi F16Fighter I was on LP briefly late at night two nights ago and some disruptor had posted all bizarre hate in Breaking News next morning site was down I think Goldi got fed up, I don't know what she will do ? I am guessing she isn't doing anything right now, just thinking it over? Love, Palo
#121. To: Rhino369, TwentyTwelve, christine, litus, G Edward Griffin (#119)
Do you recommend it?
As if your life depended on it yesterday.
But please don't take just my word for it.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
The people are stupid always have been and always will be. Its just the way humans are. The vast majority are stupid, and have no capacity to understand complex things.
However I think you aren't grasping what is happening now either. American society has been controlled by the business class almost from the beginning. Some colonies like Virgina were freaking set up by corporations. Literally a corporation, Virgina Company.
America didn't have a nobility, we had a business class. This is because land was almost free, since you could always move west. In europe land was scarce, and true wealth was in owning land. In America wealth was always in commerce, and banking.
America established a national bank almost immediately. And the United States has had central banking its entire history save 1837-1864. Corporate influence over the United States has always been there.
What we are seeing is nothing new, nor particularly worse than before.
This is important to realize, because there are many things that need to be fixed, but if you view our current situations without the lens of history you will never accomplish anything. This isn't the end or the world or anything close.
Totally edited.
I do view what is happening through the lens of history and then some.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Actually now that I googled that book, one of my best friends recommended it to me last month. I will check it out.
One book that I have very mixed feelings about, is "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn. My high school History teacher made us read a chapter in it about the revolution, and I rejected it as commie bullshit at the time. But I read it years later, still believing it was mostly BS. But it did tell a side of American history usually glossed over. Still I believe it focuses much too much on class warefare, and often assigns a malevolent intent to those who made mistakes.
I don't think they made any real effort to stop any potential attack,but that's not the same thing as saying they planned or encouraged one.
I've made the case with respect to 9/11 as analogous to leaving the store door wide open and unguarded -
If you both are going to say the WTC 1, 2 and 7 came down because of fire then you're both either very ignorant or trolls. There is too much evidence to the contrary to believe otherwise.
Once you believe that the collapses were helped by explosives, then you have to believe that the Bush administration was complicit.
And even if you can't see the physical impossibility of collapse by fire, you have to be able to see that no plane is going to fly into DC air space unidentified and unintercepted, without inside top level complicity.
I was on LP briefly late at night two nights ago and some disruptor had posted all bizarre hate in Breaking News next morning site was down I think Goldi got fed up, I don't know what she will do ? I am guessing she isn't doing anything right now, just thinking it over?
Wow, I knew this whole thing had to be Slim's fault all along.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
(F16Fighter) Has Goldi ever neglected LP to this extent?
(sneakypete) Seems to me she has been pretty much ignoring it for the last several months. Ever since she got the new job,anyhow.
(F16Fighter) I'm inclined to believe a combination of the grief of dealing mentally disturbed whining posters, the wretched state of the Union, and pressures we may not be privy to in her personal life may have caused her to say "SCREW IT!"...even for a week or so and beyond.
(sneakypete) She definitely has more patience than I do. I would have bailed long ago.
I'm hoping we hear something soon.
Hi Pete, I didn't know Goldi has new job that would be very demanding and use up a lot of her time You are are right about the patience, I too would have bailed long time ago if I were her I hope we do hear something soon I'm sure she's fine, I'm guessing this is just a time of lots of changes in her life Love, Palo
As time is of the essence now, immediately after you get through The Creature from Jekyll Island I would recommend diving right into The Gulag Archipelago by A.S.
I'm concentrating there now.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
It's indisputable. Anyone that disagrees is welcome to bring their best and prepare to have to look through a new paradigm.
The 911 Popular Mechanics Official Fairy Tale® is cut and dried up to a threshold that goes far beyond merely instigating a New Pearl Harbor.
That's not my opinion - that's a fact.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
There was a poster called "Mrs Yukon" that posted an article with a pretty raunchy title.
Yes, that was what I saw on Breaking News the night before site went down so when site was down next day, I thought "Goldi has had it!" I just ignore those asshole posts, but it makes the site "look so bad" and gets it listed as a hate site, and banned in so many places I thought Goldi got fed up Love, Palo
Whether we can throw them all back in or not, I'm going to keep trying to throw back one at a time as long as I can. No one can ever say I didn't work and exhaust all peaceful means to right the ship of freedom.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
"Mrs Yukon" (obviously a poster trying to yank Yukon's chain) posted several pretty raunchy articles and posts. It was obviously someone only interested in causing trouble.
YES!!!! Exactly but it looks like it really pissed off Goldi LP hasn't been back up since it doesn't seem fair to me that a disruptor could destroy the site, and he said he posts there under a regular name too I guess he meant it as a prank, he just wanted to annoy Yukon, he didn't think about its effect on Goldi Love, Palo
hate is the appropriate expression normal people have toward a government that slaughters millions of innocent people in illegal wars and spends money created out of thin air. i should hope all forums would be hate sites, but that's just me.
And even if you can't see the physical impossibility of collapse by fire, you have to be able to see that no plane is going to fly into DC air space unidentified and unintercepted, without inside top level complicity.
but you're talking to a National Globalist warmonger
And Amen
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Yeah - Thank God LP hasn't exactly been babysat to the extent that JimRob hawks over his Stalinist site, but it could be cleaned up a bit. But hey - maybe her priorities are exactly the way they oughta be.
Hope we hear something soon on ... the status of the forum...
Despite LP being a great outlet for blowing off steam and lending itself to constructive and unrestrictive, uncensored debate, some the kiddies seem bent on sabotaging it..
The Big Statist Government worshipers will never accept the truth.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Whether we can throw them all back in or not, I'm going to keep trying to throw back one at a time as long as I can. No one can ever say I didn't work and exhaust all peaceful means to right the ship of freedom.
Two different issues.
Some posters exist to ensure the status quo survives. I guess those type should be ignored and ridiculed in passing, but there is no time to waste for those who ignore the knock of common sense.
I do view what is happening through the lens of history and then some.
Then you should see, America isn't really worse off than we were 150 years ago, nor significantly less free. The idea of a totally free America is revisionist bullshit. If you lived on the frontier you had economic, and political freedom, but that only lasted too long before civilization caught up. We just ran out of frontier. However the cities were always controlled by business interests. Hell the business class supported the revolution exactly because it was in their best interests.
Were the sharecroppers and tenant farmers paying 15% interest (on rent, seed, and tools, all purchased from their land owners store, and they had to sell to their owners distribution company) free?
Were factory workers who had to work 12 hours in horrible conditions free?
There are many parallels to modern events from the past. America went to war based on false intelligence to supposedly liberate a people and instead fought tough insurgencies, it was called the Spanish American war, and it was 1898. Instead of Iraqi insurgents it was Filipinos.
To steal a line from Battlestar Galactica, "All of this has happened, and will happen again."
It's about the Bankster controlled Police State (now fully equipped to take US on).
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Then you should see, America isn't really worse off than we were 150 years ago, nor significantly less free. The idea of a totally free America is revisionist bullshit. If you lived on the frontier you had economic, and political freedom, but that only lasted too long before civilization caught up. We just ran out of frontier. However the cities were always controlled by business interests. Hell the business class supported the revolution exactly because it was in their best interests.
Were the sharecroppers and tenant farmers paying 15% interest (on rent, seed, and tools, all purchased from their land owners store, and they had to sell to their owners distribution company) free?
Were factory workers who had to work 12 hours in horrible conditions free?
There are many parallels to modern events from the past. America went to war based on false intelligence to supposedly liberate a people and instead fought tough insurgencies, it was called the Spanish American war, and it was 1898. Instead of Iraqi insurgents it was Filipinos.
To steal a line from Battlestar Galactica, "All of this has happened, and will happen again."
America isn't ending. So don't get depressed.
Thank you for your diatribe. When LP is back up, sell it there.