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[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Mar 21, 2009 Author:m e Post Date:2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate Keywords:None Views:26200 Comments:2261
Then you should see, America isn't really worse off than we were 150 years ago, nor significantly less free. The idea of a totally free America is revisionist bullshit. If you lived on the frontier you had economic, and political freedom, but that only lasted too long before civilization caught up. We just ran out of frontier. However the cities were always controlled by business interests. Hell the business class supported the revolution exactly because it was in their best interests.
Were the sharecroppers and tenant farmers paying 15% interest (on rent, seed, and tools, all purchased from their land owners store, and they had to sell to their owners distribution company) free?
Were factory workers who had to work 12 hours in horrible conditions free?
There are many parallels to modern events from the past. America went to war based on false intelligence to supposedly liberate a people and instead fought tough insurgencies, it was called the Spanish American war, and it was 1898. Instead of Iraqi insurgents it was Filipinos.
To steal a line from Battlestar Galactica, "All of this has happened, and will happen again."
America isn't ending. So don't get depressed.
Thank you for your diatribe. When LP is back up, sell it there.
And even if you can't see the physical impossibility of collapse by fire, you have to be able to see that no plane is going to fly into DC air space unidentified and unintercepted, without inside top level complicity.
Before 911,
a Logistics employee I am good friends with, for Fed Ex told me about a system of vectored red lights that DC had in place to warn of any unauthorized aircraft from even getting near the capitol, and if the craft did not turn around, anti aircraft weapons were at the ready.
He flys a lot Alot.
I believe him.
However I have never broached the subject of the 911 attacks - for reasons of just getting along. I think he has got to go along with the ruse.
Do you hunt deer, moose or elk ? (no does or split tails jokes please) ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
(farmfriend) Boondocks. She started it with Jack Barbara, or what ever his name was, and a few others.
Thank you for this info, FarmFriend I don't know Astoria, but I used to like Jack Barbara a lot during the brief times I was on Liberty Forum Love, Palo
The whole thing. The stand down, the demolition of 7, the simultaneous training exercises to repel planes flying into buildings, the eyewitness accounts, et al
They can't accept it because then their whole foundation for being (more bigger government from cradle to grave) will dry up.
They worship REALLY big Nanny State welfare - warfare government.
They're staring down World Utopia right now with total stimulation. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Hi p v long time, no see I am happy to see you Love, R
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
What is more likely? Our domestic air defense systems were hopelessly unprepared, or our government set it up, then perfectly executed the plan? Shit during the Clinton admin, a plane hit the white house, on accident.
Our government is incompetent, that much is clear.
It can't even torture people in Iraq in secret, do you think they can pull off a 9-11 without anyone knowing? Probably not.
Our foreign policy caused 9-11, and silly conspiracy theories take away from learning the real truth. Playing chess with other nations has fucking consequences.
It can't even torture people in Iraq in secret, do you think they can pull off a 9-11 without anyone knowing? Probably not.
Barry Jennings disagreed at one time, but then he was threatened, and now he is dead.
He was an eyewitness.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Hi Rotara Thank you very much for your friendly welcome I lurked on 4um yesterday evening and read many many posts by you and found them all very interesting Love, Palo
and read many many posts by you and found them all very interesting
Please point out two or three that you found most particularly interesting if you would be so incredibly kind. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
thank you Christine for your gracious hospitality to "homeless" LP posters LP had now been down for two days and two nights and no one knows when it will be back on it is nice of you to let us come and post here Love, Palo
Zbig and the illegal shadow government created the chaos.
Hell they created sadam and osama.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Barry Jennings disagreed at one time, but then he was threatened, and now he is dead.
He was an eyewitness.
One eyewitness is not nearly enough.
The demolition hypothesis doesn't even make sense. Why would they place demolitions then fly airplanes into them anyway? Do you think America would be less pissed off if they crashed airplanes into the towers, and they didn't fall? Probably not. It needlessly complicates a plan. And then tower 7 makes even less sense. If its impossible for tower 7 to fall down from fire, why would they bomb it? What good is it knocking down a building with nobody in it?
If I were going to fake a terrorist attack in the United States for political gain, I'd pick a small-big city like Duluth, Minnesota and set off a dirty bomb, then blame it on muslims crossing the border. You'd have political capital to invade any country you like, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, North Korea, all the above.
What I wouldn't do is fly real planes into buildings into buildings rigged with explosives. The United States has the best material science engineers, the best civil engineers and the best physicists. You won't be able to fake something that defies the laws of the universe.
O darling I wish I could I clicked on 4um originally yesterday to see if there was anything posted about LP, why it was down there wasn't anything so then I looked at the articles posted to see which ones interested me, I read them and the threads under them then I looked at Latest Comments and read those threads For some reason you had a lot of comments on the threads I read, I found them so interesting so then when I went back to Latest Comments later on in evening I clicked on your posts I found your posts lively, interesting, and thoughtful they made me think and gave me ideas I appreciated them Love, Palo
I totally enjoyed lurking on 4um yesterday evening and spent a lot of time here there were many many perceptive, thought-provoking comments by many posters I am sorry LP is down, but every cloud has a silver lining and I totally enjoyed spending yesterday evening reading all the threads on 4um
You need to ferret this one out before you scream flake.
This one is more than enough.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
The demolition hypothesis doesn't even make sense.
The demolition hypothesis is the only one that makes sencse given the nature of the collapse.
Why would they place demolitions then fly airplanes into them anyway?
Are you really this ignorant? Or do you think we are just a bunch of dumbass yahoos?
Demolition without planes and fire would be too obvious an inside job. The planes provided a decent cover story for a while, but once the shock wore off, those of us with a few working brain cells began to see through the fairy tale.
Here you can download the audio book of the book. I hope you don't mind me posting it because its probably extra-legal to say the least. I'll listen to it at work this week.
I'm not about to waste any more of my time disputing these facts with people who are absolutely in love with this conspiracy theory. Believe what you want to believe.