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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
Author: m e
Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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I don't think that the powers that be care about our service men and women like they used to....

When did they use to care about them? 1776?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-03-31   2:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Guess what jet engines are made of. STEEL.

Uh...no...

And besides which...putting aside the fact of controlled conbustion, both turbo fan jet engines and autos have a cooling system...

war  posted on  2009-03-31   10:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you think the mass of a floor changes even if it did sag?

Uh no...but the load bearing capabilities of the structure holding up that mass certainly changed...the floor was ssuspended between two support structures...

war  posted on  2009-03-31   10:23:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Indeed, numerous scientists, engineers and demolition experts have said the official version of the destruction of the World Trade Centers is impossible.

Yea so...numerous scientists will tell you that a Sky Ghost waved his hand and we all appeared. BFD.

There are numerous scientists who believe that man has 0 affect on our environment.

That was a very unimprsive statement.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   10:26:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh, and how long DID it take each tower to collapse then?

Asked and answered many times. The last time you didn't even bother to read what I posted but you decided to argue against it any way...

war  posted on  2009-03-31   10:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Right, the evidence indicates controlled demolition.

Nope. Thee is 0 evidence of a controlled demolition.

NONE.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   10:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Desks, paper, carpeting, various office equipment, those are all that could burn, and that is what burned.

And it was contained mostly to one section of one floor...the 11th...and it did not burn out of control for very long if at all...

Hell it was onlyu 2 alarms and FDNY said that the fire wouldn't have even gotten that bad had their been a sprinler system.

There is 0 comparison between the two events...one was a fire...the other a catastrophy...

war  posted on  2009-03-31   10:30:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Indeed, I have read that a gag order was imposed on the firemen.

No such order exists.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   10:32:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Pay particular attention here, war, try to wrap your mind around an idea like that.

It's a moronic parsing...the tanks are part of the plane...it's like saying a car doesn't crash but its front end does.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   10:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Indeed, I have read that a gag order was imposed on the firemen.

No such order exists.

Prove that the fireman were not threatened and did not receive calls at home to shut up.

How do you live with yourself?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-31   10:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Neither does war, that is why he is here.

You're pretty fucking stupid aren't you?

war  posted on  2009-03-31   10:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Nope. Thee is 0 evidence of a controlled demolition.

NONE.

OMG you are stupid.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-31   10:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Professor Steven Jones

How many times does this guy have to be discredited before you get it that he's discredited?

Both of the government-sponsored engineering studies of the Twin Towers' "collapses" -- FEMA's and NIST's -- are highly misleading about the core structures.

Gee...here's a paper that debumks that very notion:

Excerpt:

NIST: “As stated above, the core columns were designed to support approximately 50% of the gravity loads” [4]. “The hat-truss tied the core to the perimeter walls of the towers, and thus allowed the building to withstand the effects of the aircraft impact and subsequent fires for a much longer time—enabling large numbers of building occupants to evacuate safely” [10]...

The fact is the Towers were constructed with a substantial load-supporting core structure as well as perimeter columns – and on this point we agree with NIST in dispelling false popular notions.

was co-authored by...wait for it...Professor Steven Jones

[snicker]

war  posted on  2009-03-31   10:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Working link

war  posted on  2009-03-31   10:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

OMG you are stupid.

Given the fact that you've yet to answer the most basic questions that's a stupid statement in and of itself.

What are yo afraid of? REAL answers?

war  posted on  2009-03-31   10:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Debinked on this very thread Moonie...see post #1780

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

FEMA's report is not the official report.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

a building with 47 columns

24

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Maybe just shills who went along to go along?

OF COURSE!!!

That's it!!!

The Bilderberg's AND the Illumnati BOTH got to 'em.

BASTARDS!!!!

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

FEMA...was entrusted with the sole responsibility for investigating the collapses.

Bzzzzt...outright lie...

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

David Ray Griffin

Is a fucking PASTOR, dope.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

war, you call the above a "scientific" study based upon the scientific method? You think such kinds of "scientific" findings are credible?

ROFLMAO..

No I call it you being so fucking stupid that it's amazing that you breathe unassisted. OF COURSE, "variables" were adjusted.

Maybe you, yourself, could use a primer in scientific method before you attack a group for using...wait for it...SCIENTIFIC METHOD.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

David Ray Griffin

Is a fucking PASTOR, dope.

Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

Rule Number Five

Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-31   11:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

? The 47 story behemoth with limited fire in a few floors

Sucks for you that the fire in 7 was not limited to a few floors.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule

Something you Troofers haven't done.

/sarcasm

This is also known as the primary attack the messenger

Anotehr ploy eschewed by you Troofers...

/sarcasm

That said, the guy IS a fucking pastor.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I suppose the US government wants us to believe that 300,000 pounds of aircraft parts collided with over 13 million tons of steel

Nope. It collided with a part of that 300K LBS...

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oops...13MM tons...sorry...

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The fireballs of the WTC attacks melted structural steel that was designed to withstand heat of 2000 degrees F.

The steel in the WTC could only withstand 600 degree F before starting to become compromised and no-one has claimed that the steel melted except you Moonbats.

We've been throught his before...and you have been corrected on this before.

And yet those same fireballs somehow weren't strong enough to do anything to a pair of surviving passportsfound in pristine condition.

Given the inaccuracies of your descriptions to date...I highly doubt that they were so found...

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

kinda like the floors of wtc one and two beneath those struck closed off for "renovation" with access limited to a very few select group of "workers" a few weeks prior to 9/11.

Absolutely false...

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Prove that the fireman were not threatened and did not receive calls at home to shut up.

Wha...chuckle...huh?

Prove that something did NOT happen?

You folks just relish living in the realm of the mind numbing stupid.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Prove that the fireman were not threatened and did not receive calls at home to shut up.

Wha...chuckle...huh?

Prove that something did NOT happen?

It DID happen.

And YOU know it.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-31   11:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It DID happen.

Actually, I just called a good buddy of mine who happens to be my wife's cousin and who is a decorated FDNY LT who was on site 9/11 and he says unequivocally that you are...

FULL OF SHIT....

war  posted on  2009-03-31   11:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It DID happen.

Actually, I just called a good buddy of mine who happens to be my wife's cousin and who is a decorated FDNY LT who was on site 9/11 and he says unequivocally that you are...

FULL OF SHIT....

And just how does your good buddy know that there were no threatening phone calls from the NWO to “shut up or else”?

Your good buddy might have been the one making the phone calls.

hmmmmmm.....

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-31   12:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And just how does your good buddy know that there were no threatening phone calls from the NWO to “shut up or else”?

FDNY is a very close knit almost closed fraternity. Had anyone of them been intimidated over 9/11, it would be a) well known who was and b) why. Besides which...I am not the one who is making the claim.

FWIW, I lost several dozen friends and acquiantances that day. A good portion of my friends were FDNY. I went to more funerals over those two months than mostg wil in a lifetime.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   12:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your good buddy might have been the one making the phone calls.

ROFLMAO...you really are a tool.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   12:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You folks just relish living in the realm of the mind numbing stupid.

And yet here you are plodding through this like none of it reflects on you. And so far you haven't been able to specify just what qualifications makes you such an expert BUT you seem to hold that on a pedestal as a must have qualification for others.

You are taking published "data", filtering it and forming your own opinion from it just like everyone else here.

Too many qualified and respected in the industry disagree with you so are you emailing them with your infantile name calling too. I used to have some respect for your opinions even when I disagreed but egads you are sounding more and more like Yukon here.

mininggold  posted on  2009-03-31   12:09:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

FWIW, I lost several dozen friends and acquiantances that day. A good portion of my friends were FDNY. I went to more funerals over those two months than mostg wil in a lifetime.

You should be very upset that you were lied to by your own Government!

You should want to seek out the truth.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-31   12:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are taking published "data", filtering it and forming your own opinion from it just like everyone else here.

Nope. What I am taking is VERIFIABLE data and then processing it.

Most of what you Moonbats have been forthing on about is wholly UNverfiable and in some case are just outright lies...e.g. the final report blames jet fuel for melting steel and that the buildings pancaked.

If you read some of my responses today you will see that I responded to a post by 2012 containing an article by Steven Jones in which he accuses NIST of ignoring the vital role played by the core support in WTC.

My rebuttal was an article co-authored by that same Steven Jones [he got top billing, btw] in which he SPECIFICALLY LAUDED the NIST for identifying the vital role that the core played in WTC's support.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   12:15:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Too many qualified and respected in the industry

Like whom?

war  posted on  2009-03-31   12:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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