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Title: A Reply to the GIVE Act H.R. 1388
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Published: Mar 23, 2009
Author: Garth Everett
Post Date: 2009-03-23 18:42:53 by Refinersfire
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Views: 910
Comments: 40
After finding out "my" Conservative GOP House member voted for this POS, I called my Local State Rep, to see what could be done about it on a state level.. Here is his reply.. Mr. Cochrane: It is my understanding that the bill you are concerned about is about 310 pages long. Since it is a Federal bill that I will never have a vote on or any say in, I do not plan to read it. However, below is a summary of the bill for you to review. Personally, I do not agree with much that is going on in Washington right now - but - there's not a heck of a lot I can do about it. I let both Congressman Carney and Thompson - the two guys who are supposed to represent Lycoming County in DC - know my position on issues from time-to-time but that is about all I can do. I guess the overall purpose of the bill is to increase volunteerism and community involvement.. Sorry I cannot be of more help. Garth SUMMARY AS OF: 3/9/2009--Introduced. Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act or the GIVE Act - Amends the National and Community Service Act of 1990 (NSCA) and the Domestic Volunteer Service Act of 1973 (DVSA) to revise the programs under such Acts and reauthorize appropriations for such programs through FY2014. Revises under NSCA: (1) the School-Based and Community-Based Service-Learning programs and Higher Education Innovative Programs for Community Service (Learn and Serve programs); (2) National Service Trust programs (AmeriCorps); (3) the National Civilian Community Corps (NCCC); and (4) the Investment for Quality and Innovation program. Eliminates the current Community-Based Learn and Serve programs. Establishes two new Learn and Serve programs: (1) Campuses of Service, which provides funds to institutions of higher education to develop or disseminate exemplary service-learning programs that assist their students' pursuit of public service careers; and (2) Innovative Service-Learning Programs and Research, which funds community service-learning opportunities for elementary and secondary, college, and graduate students as well as research into service-learning. Includes among eligible AmeriCorps programs: (1) an Education Corps to address unmet educational needs; (2) a Healthy Futures Corps to address unmet health needs; (3) a Clean Energy Corps to address unmet environmental needs; and (4) a Veterans Corps to address the unmet needs of veterans and their families. Creates AmeriCorps Opportunity Corps programs that include certain existing programs and new programs to: (1) increase community access to technology; (2) engage citizens in public safety, health, and emergency preparedness services; (3) mentor youth; (4) reduce recidivism by re-engaging court-involved youth; and (5) support the needs of veterans or active duty service members and their families. Establishes an Education Awards Only program authorizing the Corporation for National and Community Service (Corporation) to provide fixed-amount grants to programs that have approved national service positions, but no AmeriCorps funding. Sets the National Service educational awards for full-time AmeriCorps, NCCC, and Volunteers in Service to America (VISTA) participants at a level equal to the maximum available Pell Grant available to students under the Higher Education Act of 1965. Includes among needs to be met under the NCCC program, disaster relief, infrastructure improvement, environmental and energy conservation, and urban and rural development. Requires states to develop comprehensive plans for volunteer and paid service by Baby Boomers and older adults. Directs the Corporation to plan pilot programs to: (1) better target and serve displaced workers; and (2) establish a centralized electronic citizenship verification system which would allow the Corporation to share employment eligibility information with the Department of Education. Authorizes the Corporation to treat September 11th annually as a National Day of Service and Remembrance. Establishes within the Investment for Quality and Innovation program: (1) a ServeAmerica Fellowships program providing fellowships to individuals chosen by states to participate in service projects addressing certain areas of national need; (2) a Silver Scholarship Grant Program providing scholarships to individuals age 55 or older who complete at least 500 hours of service in a year in an area of national need; and (3) an Encore Fellowships program providing one-year fellowships to individuals age 55 or older who serve in areas of national need and receive training to transition to public service employment. Makes ServeAmerica fellows eligible for national service educational awards. Authorizes the Corporation to provide grants to innovative and model service programs, including those for disadvantaged youth, youth under age 17, and potential recidivists. Eliminates federal funding for the Points of Light Foundation. Revises under DVSA: (1) the VISTA program; and (2) the Senior Corps, including the Retired and Senior Volunteer program (RSVP), the Foster Grandparent program, and the Senior Companion program. Gives priority in VISTA participant selection to disadvantaged youth and retired adults of any profession. Authorizes new VISTA grant programs of national significance that provide poor and rural communities with: (1) services reintegrating formerly incarcerated individuals into society; (2) financial literacy and planning; (3) before-school and after-school services; (4) community economic development initiatives; (5) assistance to veterans and their families; and (6) health and wellness services. Eliminates the VISTA Literacy Corps, University Year for VISTA, and Literacy Challenge Grant programs. Raises the minimum and maximum stipend provided to VISTA participants. Prioritizes RSVP projects in specified areas. Makes anyone 55 years of age or older eligible as Senior Corps volunteers. Provides, under the Senior Corps demonstration program, incentive matching grants to Senior Corps programs that exceed specified performance measures, enroll most of their volunteers in outcome-based service programs, and increase their enrollment of Baby Boomer volunteers. Expresses the sense of the Congress that the number of AmeriCorps, VISTA, and NCCC participants should reach 250,000 by 2014. Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act - Establishes a Congressional Commission on Civic Service to provide recommendations to Congress on improving opportunities for individuals to volunteer or perform national service. Garth Everett, State Representative 84th Legislative District Harrisburg Office: (717) 787-5270 District Office: (570) 546-2084
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#1. To: nooz, litus, IndieTX, Rotara, PSUSA, christine, James Deffenbach (#0)
ping to above..
That would be kinda funny if it weren't sad and sick. How do you "increase volunteerism" by making things MANDATORY? And what about those Americans who refuse to "volunteer"?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. ping to above
I spoke with Rep Carolyn McCarthy's Staff this morning, asking the very same question. I also, in no unclear terms, stated that my sons would NOT be taking part in this. And that my door was open, for anyone from the Government, to come and ask me why.
He's sorry he can not be of more help? What about screaming bloody murder about it to all that will listen and help all of the States that are reasserting their Sovereignty. What about contacting the Governors office and the Sheriffs association? edit: BTW, that was great that you took the time to write him.
Garth is nothing more then, IMHO, a Toadie.. he won, because he was a personal friend of our last State Rep and worked in the same Law Office. I have some info to send him.. But I'm sure it will fall on deaf ears, but I will be damned, if I allow these folks, that I pay for, to just sit back and "enjoy" their job..
The Rep he replaced, I was their #1 person, that they replied to.. ;-)
I never thought of it that way, but I'm laughing.
Oh, my mistake. Sorry about that.
And there is no doubt in my mind that the "Magic Negro" will see to it that the rules he wants to foist off on other folks kids won't apply to his daughters either.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Huh? Does this not sound an awful like the earlier days of communist Russia...where the government would decide in what occupations the youth could work when older?
I need to find out the votes of my Congress critters.
No problem.. I truly believe in the old saying, For Evil to Succeed, Good Men Need Do Nothing.. and I HATE Evil
I don't doubt that, in the least..
The DOE/NEA, has been working towards this for years. And I have been fighting them for years.. Doesn't Matter who is in the White House, the DOE has placed many programs before Congress, that would do the same thing. Up till now, they all have been stopped, if not in all, in most parts.
youth to work programs....I've always been against that.
That is just what they want, them and Big Business.
With the Obamasiah--piss be upon him--ensconced on the throne at the Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. yep...and the schools like it too.
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Me too and you are absolutely right.
The bill establishes a Commission to study mandatory national service and make recommendations to Congress. (We need to be sure they get plenty of input in the coming months.) Otherwise, the other programs remain voluntary. Most members of Congress never read it, so they don't know there is anything in it about mandatory service.
I took most of the information posted here and on the other threads, and sent it back to Mr. Everett. Here is his reply to that information. Mr. Cochrane: I understand your concerns. However, as a state legislator in Harrisburg, I have no control over this matter. This bill still needs to be approved by the Senate. Though I doubt it will do much good, you can address your concerns to Senators Specter and Casey. Sorry I cannot help you on this matter - however - please continue to contact me on any of your state government concerns. Garth Garth Everett, State Representative 84th Legislative District Harrisburg Office: (717) 787-5270 District Office: (570) 546-2084
He's abdocating his oath to the people of his State then.
horse pucky!
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/3947 HR 1388 Comes Back as HR 1444 With 'New' Language Submitted by SadInAmerica on Sun, 03/29/2009 - 12:50pm. It seemed like a victory, of sorts. Last week the Senate approved a bill to radically expand the AmeriCorps program. The bill initially contained language that proposed a study for mandatory service for all young people in the United States, but this language was removed as the bill moved through the Senate and did not appear in the final version. (Pay VERY close attention to any changes, new language, definition of words and new additions to this bill. ~ S.I.A.) ~ VIDEO Well, it57;s baaaaaaack. The language was stripped from one bill, but it suddenly appeared in another. It is now contained in HR 1444, due to crawl across the House floor this week. HR 1444 is sponsored by Rep. Jim McDermott, a Washington state Democrat, and is assigned to the House Committee on Labor and Education. The bill, under Section 4 (b)6, states: Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds. How 60;mandatory service,61; i.e. servitude, strengthens the 60;social fabric of the Nation61; is not explained. HR 1444, like its earlier parent 1388, includes the prospect of a 60;public service academy, a four-year institution that offers a federally funded undergraduate education with a focus on training future public sector leaders61; and reaches all the way down to primary school, requiring a review of 60;the means to develop awareness of national service and volunteer opportunities at a young age by creating, expanding and promoting service options for primary and secondary school students and by raising awareness of existing incentives.61; That is, 60;existing incentives61; as determined by the government. In addition to Obama57;s election campaign pledge to create a 250,000 strong national security force as big, powerful and well-funded as our combined U.S. military forces, Obama57;s chief of staff Rahm Emanuel has authored a book (The Plan: Big Ideas for America) that calls for three months of compulsory civil service for all Americans aged 18 to 25. So it looks like the goblin of compulsory national service has not gone away, it has simply morphed into another bill, soon to be considered by the House. One thing is for certain: the federal government considers you and your children little more than ciphers to be press ganged into mandatory 60;service61; to a government addicted to wars waged in the name of international bankers.
H.R.1444 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UMMARY AS OF: Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act - Establishes the Congressional Commission on Civic Service to make recommendations to Congress for: (1) improving the ability of individuals to serve others; (2) training leaders in public service organizations to better utilize individuals committed to national service and volunteerism as they manage human and fiscal resources; (3) identifying solutions to the barriers that make it difficult for some individuals to volunteer or perform national service; and (4) building on the foundation of current service and volunteer opportunities. Specifies topics to be addressed by the Commission, including deterrents to service, a mandatory service requirement, and the need for a public service academy.
H.R.1388 Meant to ping you guys to the above.
AMENDMENT XIII Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.
Why do they seem to be targeting Baby Boomers (beyond the focus especially of children)??? Are they afraid of that generation because 1) the sheer numbers; 2) it was the last generation whose parents, for the most part, remained married and who provided strong religious and moral instruction--as compared to the recent generations??
BUMP!
It could be and it could be that they want to get the "baby boomers" doing some "productive work" in their alleged "golden years" so they won't have to depend on the money they were supposed to get out of Social(ist) (In)security.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Don't know, don't care. You make a valid point, and that isn't directed at you, but at the vermin that want to "volunteer" me. They want slaves and it is not based on their age, IMO. Imagine them calling for volunteers and no one shows up.
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Oh, right. I forgot, this is, in part, about money.
Imagine them calling for volunteers and no one shows up. I hear ya....they'll get enough "volunteers". And then, after trying to get more, the rest will go on their "list", for future action(s).
And in doing so, forget basic Science.. For every Action, there is a Opposite and Equal Reaction..
A fact right there. God bless all the patriots.
And in doing so, For every Action, there is a Opposite and Equal Reaction.. amen
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
oh people will show up or face the jackboot just like the irs enforces its illegal "voluntary" robbery. GD bastards.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
#2. To: Refinersfire (#0)
I guess the overall purpose of the bill is to increase volunteerism and community involvement..
Lord Acton
#3. To: Critter, DWornock, tom007, PoliticallyIncorrect, farmfriend (#1)
#4. To: James Deffenbach (#2)
That would be kinda funny if it weren't sad and sick. How do you "increase volunteerism" by making things MANDATORY? And what about those Americans who refuse to "volunteer"?
#5. To: Refinersfire (#1)
(Edited)
#6. To: nooz (#5)
#7. To: nooz (#5)
BTW, that was great that you took the time to write him.
#8. To: Refinersfire (#6)
but I will be damned, if I allow these folks, that I pay for, to just sit back and "enjoy" their job..
#9. To: Refinersfire (#7)
The Rep he replaced, I was their #1 person, that they replied to.. ;-)
#10. To: Refinersfire (#4)
I also, in no unclear terms, stated that my sons would NOT be taking part in this.
Lord Acton
#11. To: Refinersfire (#1)
Directs the Corporation to plan pilot programs to: (1) better target and serve displaced workers; and (2) establish a centralized electronic citizenship verification system which would allow the Corporation to share employment eligibility information with the Department of Education.
#12. To: Refinersfire (#3)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#13. To: nooz (#9)
Oh, my mistake. Sorry about that.
#14. To: James Deffenbach (#10)
will see to it that the rules he wants to foist off on other folks kids won't apply to his daughters either.
#15. To: litus (#11)
Huh? Does this not sound an awful like the earlier days of communist Russia...where the government would decide in what occupations the youth could work when older?
#16. To: Refinersfire (#15)
#17. To: litus (#16)
youth to work programs
#18. To: litus (#16)
youth to work programs....I've always been against that.
White Ho House, we might be seeing a reenactment of the "Youth in Asia" (euthanasia) policy before long.
Lord Acton
#19. To: Refinersfire (#17)
That is just what they want, them and Big Business.
#20. To: James Deffenbach (#18)
we might be seeing a reenactment of the "Youth in Asia" (euthanasia) policy before long.
#21. To: Refinersfire (#13)
No problem.. I truly believe in the old saying, For Evil to Succeed, Good Men Need Do Nothing.. and I HATE Evil
#22. To: Refinersfire (#0)
Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act - Establishes a Congressional Commission on Civic Service to provide recommendations to Congress on improving opportunities for individuals to volunteer or perform national service.
#23. To: nooz, litus, IndieTX, Rotara, PSUSA, christine, James Deffenbach, Critter, DWornock, tom007, PoliticallyIncorrect, farmfriend, ratcat (#22)
#24. To: Refinersfire (#23)
I have no control over this matter.
#25. To: Refinersfire (#23)
Sorry I cannot help you
#26. To: Refinersfire (#23)
#27. To: ratcat, Refinersfire, rotara, lodwick, buckeye, christine (#26)
Title: To establish the Congressional Commission on Civic Service to study methods of improving and promoting volunteerism and national service, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] (introduced 3/11/2009) Cosponsors (6)
Latest Major Action: 3/11/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Education and Labor.
3/11/2009--Introduced.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#28. To: ratcat, Refinersfire, rotara, lodwick, buckeye, christine (#27)
Title: A bill entitled "The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, an Act to reauthorize and reform the national service laws."
Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [NY-4] (introduced 3/9/2009) Cosponsors (37)
Related Bills: H.RES.250, S.277
Latest Major Action: 3/26/2009 Passed/agreed to in Senate. Status: Passed Senate with an amendment and an amendment to the Title by Yea-Nay Vote. 79 - 19. Record Vote Number: 115.
House Reports: 111-37
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#29. To: Original_Intent, PSUSA (#28)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#30. To: farmfriend, ratcat, rotara, lodwick, buckeye, christine, Original_Intent, PSUSA, nooz, litus, James Deffenbach, Critter, DWornock, tom007, PoliticallyIncorrect, IndieTX (#28)
ping to above and below..
#31. To: Refinersfire, nooz, IndieTX, Rotara, PSUSA, christine, James Deffenbach (#1)
Provides, under the Senior Corps demonstration program, incentive matching grants to Senior Corps programs that exceed specified performance measures, enroll most of their volunteers in outcome-based service programs, and increase their enrollment of Baby Boomer volunteers.
#32. To: Refinersfire (#30)
AMENDMENT XIII Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.
#33. To: litus (#31)
Lord Acton
#34. To: litus (#31)
#35. To: James Deffenbach (#33)
so they won't have to depend on the money they were supposed to get out of Social(ist) (In)security.
#36. To: PSUSA (#34)
They want slaves and it is not based on their age, IMO.
#37. To: litus, PSUSA (#36)
And then, after trying to get more, the rest will go on their "list", for future action(s).
#38. To: Refinersfire (#37)
And in doing so, forget basic Science.. For every Action, there is a Opposite and Equal Reaction..
#39. To: Refinersfire (#37)
And then, after trying to get more, the rest will go on their "list", for future action(s).
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#40. To: PSUSA (#34)
Imagine them calling for volunteers and no one shows up.
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
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