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Title: IS ALEX JONES A ZIONIST? Controversy Swirls - Who IS Jones And What Is His True Agenda?
Source: Real Jew News
URL Source: http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=387
Published: Mar 24, 2009
Author: Brother Nathaniel
Post Date: 2009-03-24 01:43:24 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Jones, Alex, Zionism, False
Views: 3246
Comments: 114

THE SIMMERING CONTROVERSY OF ALEX ‘BULLHORN’ JONES allegedly being a Zionist shill and/or a de facto Zionist agent and spin meister has now spilled over onto Jones’ own Prison Planet Message Board (see below)…despite alleged message-censoring efforts by Jones, personally, and his staff.

According to a number of postings which are excerpted below, Jones’ allegiance to Zionism stems from two things: 1) His core Protestant Fundamentalist-Zionist belief system, and, 2) Widely circulated reports that his wife is a Jew which would make their two children Jewish under Talmudic law.

Here is a sampling of postings published on February 23rd, 2009, on Jones’ Prison Planet Forum (Scroll Down) demonstrating possible reasons for his strong pro-Zionist leanings. The posting reads as follows:

** FORBIDDEN INFORMATION THAT ALEX JONES DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW **

“Alex Jones’ ‘w-i-f-e’ is Jewish. He has two children by her. His children are therefore by rabbinical law, considered fully Jewish. This is because in rabbinical law, children are considered fully Jewish if their mother is Jewish, regardless of the race or ethnicity of the father.

Alex’s w-i-f-e and children therefore qualify for Right of Return status under Israeli law. The Israeli Right of Return statute allows any Jew anywhere in the world to immigrate to Israel and receive instant automatic citizenship. Alex Jones’ ‘w-i-f-e’ and children are therefore de facto dual citizens of the state of Israel.

It is well-known that many years ago Alex Jones used to complain on his radio show about how difficult it was for a non-Jewish spouse of a Jewish person to immigrate to the state of Israel because of the excessive bureaucratic red tape and regulations involved.” View Entire Story Here.

EVIDENCE OF CENSORSHIP ABOUT JONES’ JEWISH FAMILY

HERE IS UNEQUIVOCAL PROOF FROM AN ASTUTE COMMENTER on the Prison Planet Forum that Alex Jones tried to censor comments regarding his Zionist sympathies:

“Alex Jones does not wish for this information about his wife to become widely known and he is desperately trying to conceal it.

Jones has instructed his Webmaster, Paul Watson, to create a text filter that scans all comments posted on this website for the word ‘w-i-f-e,’ except without dashes or other characters between the letters.

If the word ‘w-i-f-e’ (without dashes) is found in either the body of the comment itself or in the poster’s name, then that comment is automatically placed on moderation.

If you don’t believe what I am saying, then please try it out for yourself. Simply post a comment with the word ‘w-i-f-e’ contained in it, except do not place dashes between the letters of the word.

You will see that when you post your comment, it will automatically be placed on moderation status. You will see the following message next to the title of your post: ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation.” View Entire Story Here.

From my own perspective, (Brother Nathanael Kapner, publisher of Real Jew News), I know for a fact that Alex Jones deleted all comments that had links to articles on Real Jew News on his Prison Planet Forum. Jones even had a regular forum participator, a man named Nicolae Ibasfalean, BANNED from ever posting on the Prison Planet Forum again, simply because he posted links to various Real Jew News articles. This is pure, unadulterated censorship.

JONES’ SUDDEN RISE IN POPULARITY

BY ALLOWING JONES TO TAKE A ‘HIDDEN’ CAMCORDER into the Zionist elite’s Skull & Bone’s Bohemian Grove in the Redwoods forest in January of 2006, and to subsequently release the footage (in a for-profit video), the Zionist press conferred upon Jones an almost instant celebrity status.

The astute marketing of the Bohemian Grove footage by Jones unquestionably gave himself an alternative news internet reputation which he used as a platform to create an undying, maniacal devotion (frighteningly, some say) of thousands of Americans…not unlike the ‘Jonestown’ loyalty Obama constructed during his presidential campaign. View Entire Story Here & Here.

Another commenter on Jones’ Prison Planet Message Board, with penetrating insight, brought to light Jones’ role as a ‘disinfo’ agent for the Zionists:

“I agree that while on the air, Alex Jones is a disinfo agent for the Jews and Israel. Obama, whose administration Jones continually censures, is infiltrated with Jews and Israel-Firsters. The communists, to whom Alex Jones and his guests refer, who influence and surround Obama, are also Jews. The banksters and the elite groups they talk about are dominated by the Zionists. There would not be the powerful Rockefeller dynasty had not the Jewish Israel-Firsters, that is, the Rothschilds, financed it.

Israel did 9/11 - Mossad did 9/11. The low-life Larry Silverstein should be arrested and asked to take a lie detector test because of his involvement and benefit from the destruction of the twin towers. I am very disgusted with the decision of Alex Jones to revert to his former refusal to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as to the identity of the criminals who are destroying the USA.” View Entire Story Here.

WILLIAM COOPER EXPOSED JONES AS A LIAR, FRAUD AND ‘BULLS**T ARTIST’

ABOUT SEVEN WEEKS AFTER EXPOSING JONES AS A LIAR AND A FRAUD on his highly-regarded national patriot radio show (listen HERE), Cooper (former naval intelligence officer and author of the alternative news best-seller Behold A Pale Horse) - was shot to death at his home in Eager, Arizona on November 5, 2001. Indeed, the renowned author, historian, and political theorist, Cooper, exposed Jones clearly as a fraud and was, according to many observers, removed to clear the way for Jones ascension to be the Rush Limbaugh of ‘patriot radio.’

After Cooper’s expose and subsequent execution, Alex Jones waged a heavy-handed campaign to downplay any role the Israelis and their Zionist counterparts in America had in the 9-11 incident. Jones continually shifted the blame away from the Zionists and onto others - mainly Americans, but also some British and Chinese. Jones then moved on to attempt to convince his listeners and readers that Zionists are actually subservient to other people, such as the Queen of England! View Entire Story Here.

As time passes, more are of the opinion that Cooper was clearly a major obstacle for Jones and was removed to clear the way for Jones to ‘fly-paper op’ as much of the patriot community as possible. View YouTube Videos Here. Jones has accumulated a large following in the years since Cooper’s death and has developed legions of kool-aid drinkers ready to, in many cases, die for him if needed. Again, this is the same cult adulation that surrounds Obama.

– JONES SEES ANYONE ELSE ON THE STAGE AS A THREAT – CALLED DAVID ICKE A ‘TURD IN A PUNCH BOWL’

AS WITH MANY EGOCENTRIC and self-absorbed/obsessed media personalities, Alex Jones has personally attacked others who seem, in his world, to be competition. David Icke is a perfect case in point. During one recorded instance of Jones putting Icke down, he refers to the anti-NWO crusader as a ‘Turd In A Punch Bowl’ as seen in this YouTube video Here.

Another common technique in the drive to be a media ‘King’ is the ability to quickly adopt and absorb the work of others and synthesize it into one’s own output. Jones has been criticized for this very kind of ‘research’ and deftly uses a large, full-time, paid staff to assure his success in appearing to be the omnipotent source of the ‘truth.’

Whether it be cadging the guests of other talk shows or appropriating and simply rewriting news material from other sites and sources and presenting it as ‘original’, Alex Jones and his websites have certainly been at the center of such controversy.

SO, WHO OR WHAT IS ALEX JONES, REALLY?

IS JONES A ZIONIST OPERATIVE… either in the closet or out? Readers and listeners must decide for themselves. The bottom line seems to be that, at the very least, Jones is doing, intentionally or otherwise, exactly what the Illuminati want by continually ranting, over and over again, about the control being imposed over the population.

While this informs to a degree, the larger issue is of a massive desensitization through endless repetition and ensuing listener psychological frustration which leads to a de facto acceptance of that very control paradigm. Clever stuff. Repeat most anything often enough and people come to accept it and become resigned to it.

SADLY, JONES’ LEGIONS OF SYCOPHANTS and disciples are in many cases every bit as blind and brainwashed as those who will follow Obama into the abyss…never figuring out what happened to them. The dangers of the adulation and idolatry of Jones - or any other media ego-tripping Pied Piper - were never more keenly evidenced than by the eBay auction of his cheap Radio Shack bullhorn for over $50,000…in a massive financial depression. This is essentially psychopathic hero worship. In fact, the contrived use of a stage prop bullhorn to grandstand - often for his own video productions - by yelling anti-NWO slogans at hotel buildings and a few limousines is absurdly transparent.

Think about it. If the controllers wish to direct and condition many patriots to give up and accept their domination, there is no better way to desensitize them than to construct a fly paper forum wherein the throngs who care are exposed to the continual, repetitious, non-stop rantings of someone who preaches doom and against servitude.

This NLP technique of repetition, especially, the grandiose and bellicose variety, achieves - over time - a fatalism and desensitization which serves the elite agenda perfectly. People will only be told to go out and take their country back so many times before the futility of same turns them off and they withdraw and give in to the paradigm of control which has been so carefully constructed by Zionism for well over 100 years.

SO, WHO IS ALEX JONES? AND WHO IS HE WORKING FOR? His Godzilla ego which has destroyed more bridges than the original cinematic reptile? Or, is Jones shilling for world Zionism as evidenced by his continual misdirection away from it? Or, is it all about money and self-aggrandizement? Or…is it all of the above?

Time will tell. Or will it…?

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#60. To: Original_Intent, all (#58)

Actually the more I look at this and chew on it the thought that occurs who is the real disinfo operator in this scenario: Alex Jones? OR Brother Nathaniel?

The bottom line is nobody knows who is who in the zoo, and I don't normally try and impeach material based on the author, but Brother Nathaniel was a poster here and IMO he's...well, look at the 'tube.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-24   12:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Jethro Tull (#60)

Want to take up a collection and send him to 'dance lessons'?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-24   12:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Itistoolate (#61)

I understand the Arthur Murray Dance Studio in Boston is top shelf :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-24   12:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Jethro Tull (#60)

"I Thought The Major Was A Lady"

It really is him:


LOL


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   12:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

Maybe we can send AJ as his dance partner?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-24   12:55:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Itistoolate (#61)

Want to take up a collection and send him to 'dance lessons'?

No, but drug rehab, yes.

Maybe it's permanent damage and is irreversible.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   12:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Itistoolate (#64) (Edited)

Maybe we can send AJ as his dance partner?

Give me the address for your radio program today so I can hear your take on the cabal.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   12:57:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Rotara (#63)

You can see that he has "the spirt" in him and it doesn't look like Satan's.

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-24   12:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Original_Intent (#58)

If someone believes that 911 was conducted by a cabal that included Jooos but also others who were Protestant, Catholic, etc., does that make one a Zionist?

Alex frequently, and correctly, points out that the Rothschilds set atop the power pyramid, but because he points out that it is a money and power thing and not Zionism (which was basically created by the Rothschilds as a world movement) that makes him a Zionist?

that cancer was planted by the same money powers that are now destroying this country.

I do think he gets it that we are dealing with psychotics at the top who will never be satisfied even with absolute power because they are psychotic and do not operate off of anything resembling rational reasoning. In the end if they prevail the endgame is will destroy all including them.

Well said; I agree. My thoughts in particular on this type of subject:

I'm an equal opportunity basher of all people and things anti-American, this includes, most especially, those in leadership positions in American politics, corporations, banks, and "not-for-profit" entities (such as the Council on Foreign Relations).

litus  posted on  2009-03-24   12:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: All (#63)

Someone please tell jew brother nathaniel that Jesus is not on the cross anymore.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   13:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Itistoolate (#67)

You can see that he has "the spirt" in him and it doesn't look like Satan's.

It looks to me like he's mocking all of us; God included.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   13:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Jethro Tull, Original_Intent, christine, TwentyTwelve (#60)

The bottom line is nobody knows who is who in the zoo

But some animals apparently believe they do. I immediately question those animals and distance myself from them.

Tell me, why would someone take risks to restore the country for a bunch of ignorant retards such as on display in the "Back Stab Alex Jones Threads" at 4um ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   13:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: litus (#68)

(such as the Council on Foreign Relations)

If we follow the Constitution (erred as it is) and run the cabal out of the country, who gives a flying fig what the jews or muzzies do to each other over there ?

When we rout out the enemy within (don't see it happening now that more 'patriots' have proven to be big fat zeros), then any enemy without that wants to encroach on us (israel, saudi arabia, et al) will have hell to pay.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   13:17:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Artisan (#56) (Edited)

Alex's work and he does seem like the real deal but there are always questions. Nothing wrong with questions. As you've all mentiioned, 'blind loyalty' to ANYONE is foolish.

Tom Chittum author of Civil War Two, is not allowed on either Alex Jones or Rense radio shows. Why?

Chittum has tackled the race issue that none dare approach. In other words, he's talking to the Bubba's that Glenn Beck so fears. I think it's a given that neither Jones or Rense want to go there, and I understand why. But, by refusing to touch it does not make the very real problem go away. Whether we will see race wars, class wars, or not has been answered, we have. When the food wars start, how do you think people will organize? By neighborhood or by race, if I just set out two choices?

he IS a fake, trust me he would have to be one hell of a MAJOR..DANGEROUS..PSYCHO to pull it off so realistically and genuinely

Interesting, because I can see Alex Jones as the Rush Limbaugh voice of the "patriot crowd', in other words, controlled opposition.

To be presented the option that Jones is either the real thing or not, is a false proposition, as other considerations are not explored.

Does anyone have an example of an article posted on his website that can be laid out and dissected here?

The post above about a claim that the global tax was an initiative to disarm is not a good example, IMO, because we do know that the UN intends to disarm everyone. I believe that to be true anyway.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-24   13:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Rotara (#70)

The Catholic Church uses(displays) Christ on every cross in all their churches. The put Mary on an equal basis with Christ.

The Protestent churches show the bare cross, meaning he has risen. The Greek church, which he is a member of is the closest to the Catholic church.

He has the bare cross on his chest and I believe the one with Christ on it to wave in the face of the 'disbelievers' Jews and Non-Jews who don't believe in Christ.

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-24   13:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Jethro Tull (#60)

but Brother Nathaniel was a poster here and IMO he's...well, look at the 'tube.

As a non-Christian, I can say that he reminds me of those nutcases standing on Canal Street in New Orleans with the placards stating that the "end is near" and screaming for everyone to repent. If I were to see him acting in such a manner as I was walking down the street, I'd point and laugh. Opps. I guess that's strike two for me being a government shill! LOL!

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-03-24   13:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: nooz (#73)

To be presented the option that Jones is either the real thing or not, is a false proposition, as other considerations are not explored.

interesting point you make. when given only two choices, the assumption is that there are not three or more. thanks for the broader point, which has merit in all situations.

When the food wars start, how do you think people will organize? By neighborhood or by race, if I just set out two choices?

people will not organize at all, they will unfortunately savagely kill anyone necessary to prevent their starvation, race or geography be damned.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-03-24   13:24:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Itistoolate (#74)

I could care less about a low life back stabber such as jew bro nate.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   13:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Rotara (#71)

Everyone who reaches some level of prominence in this movement comes under a cloud at some point. And I mean everyone - Cooper, Korneke, Stadtmiller, Gritz, Rick Stanley, AJ, and many, many more. It's our nature to question, which is fine, but w/o proof positive I reserve opinion.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-24   13:24:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: litus, Rotara, christine, TwentyTwelve, all (#68)

Well said; I agree. My thoughts in particular on this type of subject:

I'm an equal opportunity basher of all people and things anti-American, this includes, most especially, those in leadership positions in American politics, corporations, banks, and "not-for-profit" entities (such as the Council on Foreign Relations).

Thanks, and I am in agreement with your comment. I think people have trouble getting their mind around the scale of the operation we are faced with. These people have been at this for generations and have built up a VERY large organization that extends its tentacles into all different levels of society.

The two constants that show up are not any particular religion, or racial subgroup, but money and power - the engineers of the operation are the large hereditary Banking Families such as the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. Their alliances are founded upon their desire to control and lord over others.

However, I digress, the point I was making is that the sheer extremely large scale of this is such that people don't see it. Either it scares them to the point they won't look or it is so large they cannot conceive of any criminal operation on this large scale - such that it rivals any national government in scope and scale. Most people can conceive of an Al Capone running a city or a county as those are historical facts, but a criminal operation that is of the scale of a U.S. Government, and able to control that government, is simply not real to them. As well is the massive PsyOps/Propaganda/PR in the wholly owned major media telling them that they don't exist. In other words the media megaphone is busy telling people that their owners don't exist and it is just a silly conspiracy theory to look at who controls the media and that by pure coincidence the interlocking directorates trace back to the Bankster Famblies and the Intelligence Agencies they, through their agents, control. If you point out that unreformed Nazis were imported via "Operation Paperclip" to work in the CIA they won't believe you because CNN, controlled by those same people, deny they exist or simply refuse to report on the proven documented links. In my cynical moments I almost find the insanity amusing.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-24   13:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: nooz (#73)

anything is possible.

For all I know each of you works for Rockefeller.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   13:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Jethro Tull (#78)

It's our nature to question, which is fine, but w/o proof positive I reserve opinion.

I challenge the back stabbers to share with all of us the address and time that their shows run.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   13:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Original_Intent (#79)

However, I digress, the point I was making is that the sheer extremely large scale of this is such that people don't see it. Either it scares them to the point they won't look or it is so large they cannot conceive of any criminal operation on this large scale - such that it rivals any national government in scope and scale.

A fairy tale believer, that has spent a lot of time here since his israel-first site sputtered, said on another very long thread that:

You seem to believe they came up with a needlessly complicated, absurd unbelievable plan, and only a bunch of conspiracy theorists are smart enough to see it?

This requires our government to be:
malicious enough to murder thousands

I don't believe the government cares for us, but I also don't believe it would risk murdering thousands of Americans.

These people can't fathom how evil the illegal shadow government really is. They're clueless.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   13:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: nooz (#73)

I believe that to be true anyway.

But that's the point. It doesn't matter what we BELIEVE to be true.

I believe the UN wants to disarm us too, but that article posted on jones' site does not make the case. Disarmament is not even mentioned. Click the link to the story and see how deceptively it was written. Actually I fear our own .gov more than I do the UN when it comes to disarmament.

But do be careful in responding. Jones has some true believers here and they dont appreciate questions regarding him.

Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-24   13:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Original_Intent, Litus (#79)

the engineers of the operation are the large hereditary Banking Families such as the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers

k00k !

(It's easier to demonize all jews than it is to get people to understand the scope and long term planning that has gone into this)

Litus: you had some great quotes from these elite world socialist tools - wish I could find that post with those 3 or so excellent quotes.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   13:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Rotara (#80) (Edited)

anything is possible.

For all I know each of you works for Rockefeller.

I don't see why a discussion about Jones has to produce an answer that people take sides for or against. If controlled op exists, and seems many here agree that it does, we have allowed ourselves to be pushed to desperate points to accept anyone that has a foot in the real world with the rest of us peons.

That makes us vulernable and let down our natural instincts to keep questioning everything beyond what someone else wants us to.

Limballs and others constantly tell people that 'they' will do their thinking for them, saving them valuable time.

I'm happier to see people question things I haven't even thought of, and let me decide what I believe. No one could ever have as much interest in your survival as you do. But it carries a responsiblity to discern for yourself, what is relevant to ensuring just that. That Jones and Rense do not allow Chittum, makes me want to know what he has to say that is so toxic, it is censored by those people in particular.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-24   13:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: PSUSA (#83) (Edited)

But that's the point. It doesn't matter what we BELIEVE to be true.

I believe the UN wants to disarm us too, but that article posted on jones' site does not make the case. Disarmament is not even mentioned. Click the link to the story and see how deceptively it was written. Actually I fear our own .gov more than I do the UN when it comes to disarmament.

You're right, it doesn't, perhaps someone mistakenly combined the two undstanding that the UN does not have the US's best interests at heart.

But do be careful in responding. Jones has some true believers here and they dont appreciate questions regarding him.

I know that, and read Jones site regularly.

The fact is, I reserve the right to accept or reject anything according to MY bullshit test. I try to do my own research, try not to accept anything at face value.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-24   13:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: nooz (#85)

Enjoy yourself back stabbing Alex. I'll have no part of it. bozo


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   13:45:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: nooz (#86)

The fact is, I reserve the right to accept or reject anything according to MY bullshit test. I try to do my own research, try not to accept anything at face value.

Exactly. That's the only way to do it, and keep some semblance of balance.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-24   13:48:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Artisan (#76)

interesting point you make. when given only two choices, the assumption is that there are not three or more. thanks for the broader point, which has merit in all situations.

Thank you.

people will not organize at all, they will unfortunately savagely kill anyone necessary to prevent their starvation, race or geography be damned. .

I don't agree or disagree because I think people will assemble with those they feel most comfortable with. Races desire segregation, which is not a racist act in my book, just nature.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-24   13:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Rotara (#87)

Enjoy yourself back stabbing Alex. I'll have no part of it. bozo

How anything I've said is considered stabbing in the back is beyond me.

Sorry you feel that way.

Funny how bringing up the race issue must have struck a chord.

I ask simple questions. Now that is quite telling.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-24   13:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: PSUSA (#88)

Exactly. That's the only way to do it, and keep some semblance of balance.

Agreed.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-24   13:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Rotara, Original_Intent (#84)

quotes from these elite world socialist tools

You mean these:

We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries.

-David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991.

We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.

-David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission

For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.

-David Rockefeller - Memoirs, Random House, 2002, page 405.

litus  posted on  2009-03-24   14:37:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Rotara (#72)

If we follow the Constitution (erred as it is) and run the cabal out of the country, who gives a flying fig what the jews or muzzies do to each other over there ?

When we rout out the enemy within (don't see it happening now that more 'patriots' have proven to be big fat zeros), then any enemy without that wants to encroach on us (israel, saudi arabia, et al) will have hell to pay.

from your keyboard to God's ears....gives special meaning to the tagline:

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” —Samuel Adams

litus  posted on  2009-03-24   14:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Original_Intent (#79)

the media megaphone is busy telling people that their owners don't exist and it is just a silly conspiracy theory to look at who controls the media and that by pure coincidence the interlocking directorates trace back to the Bankster Famblies and the Intelligence Agencies they, through their agents, control. If you point out that unreformed Nazis were imported via "Operation Paperclip" to work in the CIA they won't believe you because CNN, controlled by those same people, deny they exist or simply refuse to report on the proven documented links. In my cynical moments I almost find the insanity amusing.

Another excellent post; I wholeheartedly agree with your observations and sentiments.

And they say insanity is only hereditary!!!

litus  posted on  2009-03-24   14:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Rotara (#22)

You've been 'told', eh ?

How about something a little more concrete when you smear a patriot ?

I wish I had a little more concrete on this. I was not provided with supporting information.

This was posted to me by the owner of another forum who doesn't seem to think the rules of required links etc apply to him. I've called him on it before as have others.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-03-24   14:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: All (#7)

After reading all of the posts on this thread, I stand by my post. LOL.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.

IndieTX  posted on  2009-03-24   15:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: litus, ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, POP goes the WEASEL, iconoclast, aristeides, arator, a vast rightwing dingdong, Brian S, ALL OBOTS (#92)

We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries.

-David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991.

We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.

-David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission

For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.

-David Rockefeller - Memoirs, Random House, 2002, page 405.

Yes !

Thank you.

I wonder if the Obots know this ? Hmmmm


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   16:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: litus (#93)

from your keyboard to God's ears....

bump


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   16:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: farmfriend (#95)

You've been 'told', eh ?

How about something a little more concrete when you smear a patriot ?

I wish I had a little more concrete on this. I was not provided with supporting information.

This was posted to me by the owner of another forum who doesn't seem to think the rules of required links etc apply to him. I've called him on it before as have others.

I would never launch something like that out there about you (without a smoking gun in my hand). ;-)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   16:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: All (#99)

100


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   16:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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