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Title: DON'T TRUST ZONE ALARM Get an other firewall , it was purchased by Israeli Firm
Source: nogw.com
URL Source: http://www.nogw.com/technology.html
Published: Aug 5, 2005
Author: nogw
Post Date: 2005-08-05 16:12:34 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: purchased, firewall, Israeli
Views: 629
Comments: 65

DON'T TRUST ZONE ALARM Get an other firewall

see http://www.nogw.com/technology.html

Zone Labs was purchased by the Israeli firm Checkpoint Software in December 2003, and the Israeli's immediately revamped Zone Alarm's True Vector Engine. Now there are few knowledgeable software security experts who trust that any new Zone Alarm products after this buy out actually protect users from spying by U.S. and Israeli governments.

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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Sygate's free firewall is very nice.

Bayonne  posted on  2005-08-05   16:24:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Bayonne (#1)

I clicked on your link but it didn't work.

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-08-05   16:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#2)

http://smb.sygate.com/products/spf_standard.htm

Bayonne  posted on  2005-08-05   16:34:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Thanks for the heads up. ZoneAlarm is very popular.

I have a Firewall/Router, plus Norton's s/w, (that I should update).

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-05   16:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

In that case, you might want to also stop using your phone, because an Israeli company, Amdocs, processes something like 85% of the billing data for most of the telecom carriers.

The eviil joooz know where you live, whom you call, and for how long (and they've known it for maybe 20-30 years).

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   17:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Starwind (#5)

you got that right but I think it's 100%

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-08-05   17:12:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Starwind (#5)

In that case, you might want to also stop using your phone, because an Israeli company, Amdocs, processes something like 85% of the billing data for most of the telecom carriers.

The eviil joooz know where you live, whom you call, and for how long (and they've known it for maybe 20-30 years).

Hmm interesting reply considering this was not anything about as you put it "evil joooz" . Paranoia? There is a track record of spying by Israels via Amdocs since you brought up that company.

Morning Has Broken

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   17:20:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah (#7)

Paranoia?

Sarcasm?

There is a track record of spying by Israels via Amdocs since you brought up that company.

And the NSA "track record" by comparison of intercepting, recording, and analyzing nearly 100% of the world's telecomm traffic is what? Chopped liver?

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   17:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Starwind (#8)

Hmm so to you it's okay for AMDOCs to spy on US citizens including law enforcement for a foreign country? Some animals are more equal right?

http://www.911-strike.com/fox2.htm

Morning Has Broken

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   17:32:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah (#9)

You could provide dozens of pages of evidence- it won't even be acknlowledged by the true believers. They avoid any and all criticism of Israel- no matter what.

Bayonne  posted on  2005-08-05   17:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zipporah (#9)

Hmm so to you it's okay for AMDOCs to spy on US citizens including law enforcement for a foreign country? Some animals are more equal right?

Hardley.

WalMart and other companies are planting RFIDs in products and shipments to track their movements (yours when you buy them).

There are also test programs to put monitoring in stores to analyze shopper behavior patterns.

Discount "checkout" cards record your identity with your itemizations of your purchases.

On*Star in cars tracks your driving movements.

Cell phone towers can triangulate the location of your phone (and you), even when you're not using it.

Speedpasses record your uses of tollgates.

Your SS# is now pretty much public information and is mandatory for drivers licenses as well as medical/healthacre transactions - even clinic visits.

And Amdocs, like the NSA, could be spying on citizens of other countries, or do you only get concerned when other animals infringe upon the more equal status of the NSA?

RSA chips are 'dumbed down' to enable the NSA to decrypt traffic.

I could go on with what companies do with "Data Mining".

The point is our "private" lives have been made an open book, with our cooperation, by the US government and US companies.

The information that could be "leaked" by your firewall is known to every router through which you communicate, and products like Media Player and Real Player are already acknowledged to be user installed spyware.

China can buy Magnequench and Global Crossing.

But when the Israeli's buy a firewall company, now all of a sudden there's a problem that merits boycotts.

lol - that horse left the barn a long time ago.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:06:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Starwind (#11)

right, and every thing you mentioned goes throught the "Phone System" (ie Amdocs)

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-08-05   18:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Starwind (#11)

A very informative post, Starwind.

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2005-08-05   18:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Bayonne (#10)

They avoid any and all criticism of Israel- no matter what.

Some Israelis are terrorists and criminals, but most terrorists and criminals are not Israeli. You could get rid of all the Israeli's in the world and there will still be terrorists and thieves looking to kill and rob.

While you are focused on criticising Israel, the real thieves are stealing you blind.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Starwind (#14)

The "real thieves" are the 7 families that own the Federal Reserve and are using "usery" to rob US all blind.

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-08-05   18:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Starwind (#11)

But when the Israeli's buy a firewall company, now all of a sudden there's a problem that merits boycotts.

Did I say that or advocate it? No. My issue was the fact that immediately you went into using 'evil joooz' and no one that I saw said one thing about the Jewish people. So who has the agenda here? Certainly not me. I am concerned about any tracking period of citizens but more concerned about foreign countries no matter WHICH country it may be. I have no prejudice for any particular country nor a prejudice against any particular country other than my own.

Morning Has Broken

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#12)

every thing you mentioned goes throught the "Phone System" (ie Amdocs)

Lol- "everything" I mentioned huh? Go check the facts.

Amdocs sees billing data and some CRM provising data (ie how long was a call, to what number and the cost, and where to send the bill, and sometimes what kind of equipment or service change you've requested).

But never the content of your calls, emails, faxes, etc. Our own NSA is analyzing that.

And obviously Amdocs is not analyzing router traffic or store traffic.

Get a clue.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Zipporah (#16)

No. My issue was the fact that immediately you went into using 'evil joooz' and no one that I saw said one thing about the Jewish people

And I answered your query that I was being sarcastic, didn't I, but that hasn't stopped you from making a mountain out a mole hill, has it.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#13)

A very informative post, Starwind.

Thank you, kindly.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Starwind (#18)

Now that I'm set straight on that I'll make sure I remember that in the future.

Morning Has Broken

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Zipporah, Starwind (#16)

China can buy Magnequench and Global Crossing.

But when the Israeli's buy a firewall company, now all of a sudden there's a problem that merits boycotts.

Communist China and Israel are both of concern as the FBI claims both are spying on us.

Currently, China does not have the equivalent of an AIPAC in our govt. Yes, they certainly have managed to "obtain" a great deal of high-tech. Some of it from Israel, but most of it from so-called American corporations. Getting the leader of the free world to hand over decades of R&D is no small feat.

But, so far, we are not directly invading nations for the security of a greater Communist China. Certainly though, they must be laughing at us, as we continue to weaken even as they are gaining strength.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-05   18:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Zipporah (#20)

Now that I'm set straight on that I'll make sure I remember that in the future.

Memory is not needed. Just reading comprehension.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robin (#21)

And AMDOCs has been accused of spying its a lot more than just doing billing.

Morning Has Broken

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Starwind (#22)

Memory is not needed. Just reading comprehension.

Oh yes I do believe memory is needed for the next time someone says 'I was just kidding' I'll be a lot more careful so I don't 'over react'.

Morning Has Broken

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:32:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Starwind (#14)

Anyone who supports/defends the American/Israeli relationship is a traitor to America.

Posting "eviil joos" to a criticism of Israel is sure sign.

Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”

wbales  posted on  2005-08-05   18:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Starwind (#17)

and who is in the NSA? all Goyiams?

we'll (you and I) never know because it is secret.

and Lou Gershner who is Jewish, (Ex CEO of IBM) built the Big Brother system spying on us all Where Big Brother Snoops on Americans 24/7 Cap Hill Blue

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-08-05   18:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Zipporah (#24)

I'll be a lot more careful so I don't 'over react'.

My point has been that none of us over react. Either in favor of Israel or opposed. Let's comprehend what the important issues are and keep a balanced, informed perspective.

The problems in the world are the corrupt politicians, terrorists, criminals, corrupt governments, companies and court systems. Not just those under an Israeli or Jewish flag, but all of them.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: wbales (#25)

Posting "eviil joos" to a criticism of Israel is sure sign.

Were it an intelligent criticism of Israel, or were Israel the only country guilty, or were Israel more guilty than any other, you'd have a point.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Starwind (#27)

Same here. As Ive said I have no prejudice for or against any particular country therefore no matter which country it is, if there is spying against US citizens or against this government there should be the ability to examine and criticize. No country is more equal in my view. All should be in the line of the fire of criticism if and when there is reason to criticize. It's absolutely ridiculous to be so hypersensitive because of prejudices for or against any nation.

Morning Has Broken

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#26)

Not to mention Total Information Awareness, Dr. John Poindexter...Many Jews are silent about him, including the Starwind "Christian Network" marionettes...

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-08-05   18:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Starwind, Zipporah, All (#27)

My point has been that none of us over react. Either in favor of Israel or opposed. Let's comprehend what the important issues are and keep a balanced, informed perspective.

The problems in the world are the corrupt politicians, terrorists, criminals, corrupt governments, companies and court systems. Not just those under an Israeli or Jewish flag, but all of them.

We do look at ALL of them!

THE MSM SYSTEMATICALLY IGNORES ISRAEL, until even it is forced to report something like say Rosen looking at 20 years for spying!

THIS FORUM is one of the VERY FEW places that even tries to focus on what the MSM ignores. That includes Communist China, North Korea, South America, South Africa, etc.

The BIG difference is, the NEOCOMMIES running this war are VERY PRO-ISRAEL. If they were PRO-BRAZIL, then you can be sure, we would be focusing on BRAZIL.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-05   18:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Zipporah (#29)

No country is more equal in my view.

Nor is any country more unequal in my view.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: robin (#31)

Yes there are LOTS of articles in regard to other countries and other issues. Of course that seems to be overlooked.

Morning Has Broken

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:48:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Zipporah (#33)

We did not START with Israel, we started with this damnable war. Examination of all the events, people, decisions and evidence leading up to this war, brought us to AIPAC, the NEOCOMMIES and ISRAEL.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-05   18:52:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: robin (#31)

The BIG difference is, the NEOCOMMIES running this war are VERY PRO-ISRAEL.

This is were you begin to take your eye off the ball.

Yes they are pro-Israel, but no, that does not mean that everything is because of Israel or in favor of Israel.

Most of what the administration does is because of it's egotistic hegemonistics. They are trying to maneuever China as well, but that isn't because of Israel.

NAFTA, CAFTA, SchmaFTA none had anything to do with Israel.

There is a bigger picture than Israel, Israel is part of the picture, but so is China, India, Russia, Canada...etc. The turmoil in the mideast is predominantly about oil, not Israel. Israel complicates matters, but it is not the heart of the matter.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:54:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: robin (#34)

Quit trying to make sense :P

Morning Has Broken

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Zipporah, robin, starwind (#36)

Israeli Businessman Sentenced in Plot to Ship Nuclear Detonation Devices Associated Press

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/break ing/MGBBMD5M0CE.html

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-08-05   19:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#37)

Oy vey...

Mossad agent Asher Karni

Asher Karni’s arrest stunned Cape Town. “I felt shock and horror,” Michael Bagraim says. “It was mind-boggling—how such a devout Jew could be supplying nuclear triggers for the nuclear weapons of a staunch Islamic country.”

U.S. District Court, in his ‚57;rst court appearance, the day after his arrest. Presented with a list of his alleged crimes and a description of the penalties, and after being apprised of his rights, he told Judge Patricia A. Coan, “Your Honor…I would like to make life easy. I…I admit everything, there’s no need to…to go for a long procedures of….”

Coan interrupted him to ask if he were just admitting to his identity. “My identity and the charges,” Karni replied. The court, noting Karni’s lack of a lawyer and reminding him of his right to remain silent, admonished him to go no further.

“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli

Eoghan  posted on  2005-08-05   19:14:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, all (#15)

The "real thieves" are the 7 families that own the Federal Reserve and are using "usery" to rob US all blind.

lol - That "story" is an ubran legend. It has been around the internet a long time and in various flavors. But obviously it is still bamboozling you.

For lurkers who care to check the facts themselves, here then is Itisa1mosttoolate's earlier expose' thread:

THE SEVEN jEWISH BANKING FAMILIES WHO OWN THE PRIVATE 'FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING CORPORATION

And on that thread, I posted Who Owns the Federal Reserve? an explanation of the falsehoods in the story and how the Federal Reserve actually works.

Then in post post #26, you blurt:

and who is in the NSA? all Goyiams?
we'll (you and I) never know because it is secret.
and Lou Gershner who is Jewish, (Ex CEO of IBM) built the Big Brother system spying on us all Where Big Brother Snoops on Americans 24/7 Cap Hill Blue

Itisa1mosttoolate, you should apply to be an investigative reporter for Tom Flocco. You've missed your calling.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   19:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Starwind (#39)

Well then check out this

HERE'S THE FRONT COVER OF STEINSALTZS' BOOK 'THE ESSENTIAL TALMUD' NOTICE THE WORD satan WHICH IS HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT ON THE COVER SHOWING THIS SERPENTS TRUE MASTER

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0465020631/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-5223089- 8309703

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-08-05   19:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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