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Title: DON'T TRUST ZONE ALARM Get an other firewall , it was purchased by Israeli Firm
Source: nogw.com
URL Source: http://www.nogw.com/technology.html
Published: Aug 5, 2005
Author: nogw
Post Date: 2005-08-05 16:12:34 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: purchased, firewall, Israeli
Views: 949
Comments: 65

DON'T TRUST ZONE ALARM Get an other firewall

see http://www.nogw.com/technology.html

Zone Labs was purchased by the Israeli firm Checkpoint Software in December 2003, and the Israeli's immediately revamped Zone Alarm's True Vector Engine. Now there are few knowledgeable software security experts who trust that any new Zone Alarm products after this buy out actually protect users from spying by U.S. and Israeli governments.

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#5. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

In that case, you might want to also stop using your phone, because an Israeli company, Amdocs, processes something like 85% of the billing data for most of the telecom carriers.

The eviil joooz know where you live, whom you call, and for how long (and they've known it for maybe 20-30 years).

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   17:10:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Starwind (#5)

In that case, you might want to also stop using your phone, because an Israeli company, Amdocs, processes something like 85% of the billing data for most of the telecom carriers.

The eviil joooz know where you live, whom you call, and for how long (and they've known it for maybe 20-30 years).

Hmm interesting reply considering this was not anything about as you put it "evil joooz" . Paranoia? There is a track record of spying by Israels via Amdocs since you brought up that company.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   17:20:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah (#7)

Paranoia?

Sarcasm?

There is a track record of spying by Israels via Amdocs since you brought up that company.

And the NSA "track record" by comparison of intercepting, recording, and analyzing nearly 100% of the world's telecomm traffic is what? Chopped liver?

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   17:27:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Starwind (#8)

Hmm so to you it's okay for AMDOCs to spy on US citizens including law enforcement for a foreign country? Some animals are more equal right?

http://www.911-strike.com/fox2.htm

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   17:32:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zipporah (#9)

Hmm so to you it's okay for AMDOCs to spy on US citizens including law enforcement for a foreign country? Some animals are more equal right?

Hardley.

WalMart and other companies are planting RFIDs in products and shipments to track their movements (yours when you buy them).

There are also test programs to put monitoring in stores to analyze shopper behavior patterns.

Discount "checkout" cards record your identity with your itemizations of your purchases.

On*Star in cars tracks your driving movements.

Cell phone towers can triangulate the location of your phone (and you), even when you're not using it.

Speedpasses record your uses of tollgates.

Your SS# is now pretty much public information and is mandatory for drivers licenses as well as medical/healthacre transactions - even clinic visits.

And Amdocs, like the NSA, could be spying on citizens of other countries, or do you only get concerned when other animals infringe upon the more equal status of the NSA?

RSA chips are 'dumbed down' to enable the NSA to decrypt traffic.

I could go on with what companies do with "Data Mining".

The point is our "private" lives have been made an open book, with our cooperation, by the US government and US companies.

The information that could be "leaked" by your firewall is known to every router through which you communicate, and products like Media Player and Real Player are already acknowledged to be user installed spyware.

China can buy Magnequench and Global Crossing.

But when the Israeli's buy a firewall company, now all of a sudden there's a problem that merits boycotts.

lol - that horse left the barn a long time ago.

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:06:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Starwind (#11)

But when the Israeli's buy a firewall company, now all of a sudden there's a problem that merits boycotts.

Did I say that or advocate it? No. My issue was the fact that immediately you went into using 'evil joooz' and no one that I saw said one thing about the Jewish people. So who has the agenda here? Certainly not me. I am concerned about any tracking period of citizens but more concerned about foreign countries no matter WHICH country it may be. I have no prejudice for any particular country nor a prejudice against any particular country other than my own.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:14:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Zipporah, Starwind (#16)

China can buy Magnequench and Global Crossing.

But when the Israeli's buy a firewall company, now all of a sudden there's a problem that merits boycotts.

Communist China and Israel are both of concern as the FBI claims both are spying on us.

Currently, China does not have the equivalent of an AIPAC in our govt. Yes, they certainly have managed to "obtain" a great deal of high-tech. Some of it from Israel, but most of it from so-called American corporations. Getting the leader of the free world to hand over decades of R&D is no small feat.

But, so far, we are not directly invading nations for the security of a greater Communist China. Certainly though, they must be laughing at us, as we continue to weaken even as they are gaining strength.

robin  posted on  2005-08-05   18:29:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robin (#21)

And AMDOCs has been accused of spying its a lot more than just doing billing.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:30:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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