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Title: DON'T TRUST ZONE ALARM Get an other firewall , it was purchased by Israeli Firm
Source: nogw.com
URL Source: http://www.nogw.com/technology.html
Published: Aug 5, 2005
Author: nogw
Post Date: 2005-08-05 16:12:34 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: purchased, firewall, Israeli
Views: 671
Comments: 65

DON'T TRUST ZONE ALARM Get an other firewall

see http://www.nogw.com/technology.html

Zone Labs was purchased by the Israeli firm Checkpoint Software in December 2003, and the Israeli's immediately revamped Zone Alarm's True Vector Engine. Now there are few knowledgeable software security experts who trust that any new Zone Alarm products after this buy out actually protect users from spying by U.S. and Israeli governments.

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#5. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

In that case, you might want to also stop using your phone, because an Israeli company, Amdocs, processes something like 85% of the billing data for most of the telecom carriers.

The eviil joooz know where you live, whom you call, and for how long (and they've known it for maybe 20-30 years).

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   17:10:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In that case, you might want to also stop using your phone, because an Israeli company, Amdocs, processes something like 85% of the billing data for most of the telecom carriers.

The eviil joooz know where you live, whom you call, and for how long (and they've known it for maybe 20-30 years).

Hmm interesting reply considering this was not anything about as you put it "evil joooz" . Paranoia? There is a track record of spying by Israels via Amdocs since you brought up that company.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   17:20:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Paranoia?

Sarcasm?

There is a track record of spying by Israels via Amdocs since you brought up that company.

And the NSA "track record" by comparison of intercepting, recording, and analyzing nearly 100% of the world's telecomm traffic is what? Chopped liver?

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   17:27:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Hmm so to you it's okay for AMDOCs to spy on US citizens including law enforcement for a foreign country? Some animals are more equal right?

http://www.911-strike.com/fox2.htm

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   17:32:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Hmm so to you it's okay for AMDOCs to spy on US citizens including law enforcement for a foreign country? Some animals are more equal right?

Hardley.

WalMart and other companies are planting RFIDs in products and shipments to track their movements (yours when you buy them).

There are also test programs to put monitoring in stores to analyze shopper behavior patterns.

Discount "checkout" cards record your identity with your itemizations of your purchases.

On*Star in cars tracks your driving movements.

Cell phone towers can triangulate the location of your phone (and you), even when you're not using it.

Speedpasses record your uses of tollgates.

Your SS# is now pretty much public information and is mandatory for drivers licenses as well as medical/healthacre transactions - even clinic visits.

And Amdocs, like the NSA, could be spying on citizens of other countries, or do you only get concerned when other animals infringe upon the more equal status of the NSA?

RSA chips are 'dumbed down' to enable the NSA to decrypt traffic.

I could go on with what companies do with "Data Mining".

The point is our "private" lives have been made an open book, with our cooperation, by the US government and US companies.

The information that could be "leaked" by your firewall is known to every router through which you communicate, and products like Media Player and Real Player are already acknowledged to be user installed spyware.

China can buy Magnequench and Global Crossing.

But when the Israeli's buy a firewall company, now all of a sudden there's a problem that merits boycotts.

lol - that horse left the barn a long time ago.

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:06:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

But when the Israeli's buy a firewall company, now all of a sudden there's a problem that merits boycotts.

Did I say that or advocate it? No. My issue was the fact that immediately you went into using 'evil joooz' and no one that I saw said one thing about the Jewish people. So who has the agenda here? Certainly not me. I am concerned about any tracking period of citizens but more concerned about foreign countries no matter WHICH country it may be. I have no prejudice for any particular country nor a prejudice against any particular country other than my own.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:14:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

No. My issue was the fact that immediately you went into using 'evil joooz' and no one that I saw said one thing about the Jewish people

And I answered your query that I was being sarcastic, didn't I, but that hasn't stopped you from making a mountain out a mole hill, has it.

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:23:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Now that I'm set straight on that I'll make sure I remember that in the future.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:25:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Now that I'm set straight on that I'll make sure I remember that in the future.

Memory is not needed. Just reading comprehension.

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:30:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Memory is not needed. Just reading comprehension.

Oh yes I do believe memory is needed for the next time someone says 'I was just kidding' I'll be a lot more careful so I don't 'over react'.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:32:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'll be a lot more careful so I don't 'over react'.

My point has been that none of us over react. Either in favor of Israel or opposed. Let's comprehend what the important issues are and keep a balanced, informed perspective.

The problems in the world are the corrupt politicians, terrorists, criminals, corrupt governments, companies and court systems. Not just those under an Israeli or Jewish flag, but all of them.

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:37:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Same here. As Ive said I have no prejudice for or against any particular country therefore no matter which country it is, if there is spying against US citizens or against this government there should be the ability to examine and criticize. No country is more equal in my view. All should be in the line of the fire of criticism if and when there is reason to criticize. It's absolutely ridiculous to be so hypersensitive because of prejudices for or against any nation.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   18:42:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

As Ive said I have no prejudice for or against any particular country therefore no matter which country it is,...

I certainly do. I am primarily focused on Israel--and with rational reason. So much bad crap for America and Americans has come out of that shitty pile of sand. I am biased against Israel and make no apology for that. All true Americans should hate Israel and any of Israel's American supporters.

Whenever the issue arises or a debate or report comes up concerning liberal Jews, Zionists or Israel, it SHALL be the Israel First/Zionist types to yell "evvvilll joos" or its various analogies: "jew hater" "nazi".

It 100% designed to chill criticism---stifle debate. Right out of the Franfurt School.

wbales  posted on  2005-08-05   20:32:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My position is there should be no country off limits. If criticism based upon evidence is not permitted what kind of lunacy is that? Whether it be India, China, Mexico, Belaruse or Israel then so be it and if you cannot be critical of a country that is fricken spying on your own country, what kind of lunacy is that? Does that make ANY sense? You have to be subjected to labelling and name calling? Its assinine and childish. Rather reminds me of an elementary schoolyard.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   20:50:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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