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Title: DON'T TRUST ZONE ALARM Get an other firewall , it was purchased by Israeli Firm
Source: nogw.com
URL Source: http://www.nogw.com/technology.html
Published: Aug 5, 2005
Author: nogw
Post Date: 2005-08-05 16:12:34 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: purchased, firewall, Israeli
Views: 637
Comments: 65

DON'T TRUST ZONE ALARM Get an other firewall

see http://www.nogw.com/technology.html

Zone Labs was purchased by the Israeli firm Checkpoint Software in December 2003, and the Israeli's immediately revamped Zone Alarm's True Vector Engine. Now there are few knowledgeable software security experts who trust that any new Zone Alarm products after this buy out actually protect users from spying by U.S. and Israeli governments.

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#5. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

In that case, you might want to also stop using your phone, because an Israeli company, Amdocs, processes something like 85% of the billing data for most of the telecom carriers.

The eviil joooz know where you live, whom you call, and for how long (and they've known it for maybe 20-30 years).

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   17:10:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Starwind (#5)

In that case, you might want to also stop using your phone, because an Israeli company, Amdocs, processes something like 85% of the billing data for most of the telecom carriers.

The eviil joooz know where you live, whom you call, and for how long (and they've known it for maybe 20-30 years).

Hmm interesting reply considering this was not anything about as you put it "evil joooz" . Paranoia? There is a track record of spying by Israels via Amdocs since you brought up that company.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   17:20:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah (#7)

Paranoia?

Sarcasm?

There is a track record of spying by Israels via Amdocs since you brought up that company.

And the NSA "track record" by comparison of intercepting, recording, and analyzing nearly 100% of the world's telecomm traffic is what? Chopped liver?

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   17:27:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Starwind (#8)

Hmm so to you it's okay for AMDOCs to spy on US citizens including law enforcement for a foreign country? Some animals are more equal right?

http://www.911-strike.com/fox2.htm

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-05   17:32:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zipporah (#9)

Hmm so to you it's okay for AMDOCs to spy on US citizens including law enforcement for a foreign country? Some animals are more equal right?

Hardley.

WalMart and other companies are planting RFIDs in products and shipments to track their movements (yours when you buy them).

There are also test programs to put monitoring in stores to analyze shopper behavior patterns.

Discount "checkout" cards record your identity with your itemizations of your purchases.

On*Star in cars tracks your driving movements.

Cell phone towers can triangulate the location of your phone (and you), even when you're not using it.

Speedpasses record your uses of tollgates.

Your SS# is now pretty much public information and is mandatory for drivers licenses as well as medical/healthacre transactions - even clinic visits.

And Amdocs, like the NSA, could be spying on citizens of other countries, or do you only get concerned when other animals infringe upon the more equal status of the NSA?

RSA chips are 'dumbed down' to enable the NSA to decrypt traffic.

I could go on with what companies do with "Data Mining".

The point is our "private" lives have been made an open book, with our cooperation, by the US government and US companies.

The information that could be "leaked" by your firewall is known to every router through which you communicate, and products like Media Player and Real Player are already acknowledged to be user installed spyware.

China can buy Magnequench and Global Crossing.

But when the Israeli's buy a firewall company, now all of a sudden there's a problem that merits boycotts.

lol - that horse left the barn a long time ago.

Starwind  posted on  2005-08-05   18:06:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Starwind (#11)

Your SS# is now pretty much public information and is mandatory for drivers licenses as well as medical/healthacre transactions - even clinic visits.

That is COMPLETELY untrue. Your social security number is REQUESTED by healthcare providers but *trust me* it is not mandatory and if you refuse to provide it, THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN OR WILL DO. Your insurance is billed and linked to your BIRTHDATE, not your social security. In fact, all the major players: BC BS/Anthem, CIGNA, Aetna, HealthChoice, etc etc are in process of REMOVING social security numbers from their health cards. This is in response to a national outcry (that could no longer be ignored) from citizens who wanted their PRIVACY respected and social security numbers NOT available in the healthcare databanks... HIPAA has at least ONE good angle to it... (chuckle... I hate the endless regulations imposed by that law BUT... )

Now, admittedly, it's a tad too little and YEARS too late but going forward, PRIVACY is being added back to the healthcare system.

As for driver's licenses, it's NOT mandatory. In fact, even in ultra liberal Massachusetts where they like to invade EVERY aspect of your life, it's long been recognized that drivers have the RIGHT to have something other than their social security number on their license...

AND DID YOU KNOW? It's ILLEGAL for anyone to REQUIRE you to consent to their copying your driver's license for the purpose of identification? They can ask for it, look at it, and document the NUMBER/DOB but not copy it unless you give PERMISSION. (Ps, DON'T give permission for copying, it contains TOO MUCH info plus a photograph)... Social security numbers have been ALLOWED to be public information but LEGALLY, they are not public information.

siagiah  posted on  2005-08-14   12:25:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: All (#60)

oh yes, I forgot this piece to my previous response...

Auto sales companies ask for and copy your driver's licenses for you to TAKE a test drive alone... ASK for the copy back once you return the car. They have no right to keep the copy on file. (They aren't LEGALLY allowed to demand a copy in the first place but if you refuse, EXPECT them to refuse to let you drive off... lol)

siagiah  posted on  2005-08-14   12:29:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#62. To: siagiah (#61)

Great tag, btw.

Lod  posted on  2005-08-14 12:39:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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