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Title: Breaking: Senate Passes Bill to Legalize Involuntary Servitude (Hi Slaves)
Source: Alex Jones Broadcast
URL Source: http://None
Published: Mar 24, 2009
Author: Me
Post Date: 2009-03-24 15:09:17 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Conscription, slavery, treason, Stasi
Views: 723
Comments: 66

No details yet as the story is still breaking but the report now is that the House and Senate and have now passed the Bill of Enslavement - to enforce "community service" under Federal Control.

The Senate vote was 74-14 in favor.

Amendments were added in the Senate to prohibit protesting it, petitioning against it etc., ... IN OTHER WORDS THIS IS THE INSTALLATION OF A FEDERAL DICTATORSHIP.

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#26. To: nooz (#20)

All I read was that it was blocked. I just can't envision it lasting that long.

I can't envision me wasting my time watching or listening to the Obamasiah and certainly not for 3 1/2 hours. That is 210 minutes of your life wasted that you can never get back. It is obvious that he wants to turn Americans into slaves.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-24   15:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

I can't envision me wasting my time watching or listening to the Obamasiah and certainly not for 3 1/2 hours.

Same here.

It is obvious that he wants to turn Americans into slaves.

Watch who they cull for certain volunteer opportunities.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-24   15:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: James Deffenbach (#10)

H.R.1388 GIVE Act (Placed on Calendar in Senate)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SEC. 1304. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.

Section 125 (42 U.S.C. 12575) is amended to read as follows:

`SEC. 125. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.

`(a) Prohibited Activities- A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities:

`(1) Attempting to influence legislation.

`(2) Organizing or engaging in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes.

`(3) Assisting, promoting, or deterring union organizing.

`(4) Impairing existing contracts for services or collective bargaining agreements.

`(5) Engaging in partisan political activities, or other activities designed to influence the outcome of an election to any public office.

`(6) Participating in, or endorsing, events or activities that are likely to include advocacy for or against political parties, political platforms, political candidates, proposed legislation, or elected officials.

`(7) Engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.

`(8) Providing a direct benefit to--

`(A) a business organized for profit;

`(B) a labor organization;

`(C) a partisan political organization;

`(D) a nonprofit organization that fails to comply with the restrictions contained in section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 except that nothing in this section shall be construed to prevent participants from engaging in advocacy activities undertaken at their own initiative; and

`(E) an organization engaged in the religious activities described in paragraph (7), unless Corporation assistance is not used to support those religious activities.

`(9) Conducting a voter registration drive or using Corporation funds to conduct a voter registration drive.

`(10) Such other activities as the Corporation may prohibit.

`(b) Ineligible Organizations- No assistance provided under this subtitle may be provided to the following types of organizations (including the participation of a participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle in activities conducted by such organizations) or to organizations that are co-located on the same premises as the following organizations:

`(1) Organizations that provide or promote abortion services, including referral for such services.

`(2) For-profit organizations, political parties, labor organizations, or organizations engaged in political or legislative advocacy.

`(3) Organizations that have been indicted for voter fraud.

`(c) Nondisplacement of Employed Workers or Other Volunteers- A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not perform any services or duties or engage in activities which--

`(1) would otherwise be performed by an employed worker as part of his or her assigned duties as an employee or by another volunteer who is not a participant in an approved national service position; or

`(2) will supplant the hiring of employed workers or work of such other volunteers.'.

"Liberty is the solution of all social and economic questions." ~~Joseph A. Labadie

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2009-03-24   15:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent (#0)

GIVE Mandatory Service Act Strips First Amendment of “Volunteers”

Kurt Nimmo Prison Planet.com Tuesday, March 24, 2009

On March 18, Rep. George Miller, a Democrat from California, tacked an amendment on H.R. 1388, entitled “Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act,” or GIVE (to government), Obama’s plan to require mandatory service for all able young people. Miller’s amendment will “prohibit organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing,” according to GovTrack.us, a site that tracks Congress.

In other words, Obama’s “volunteer corps” act, passed by the House with a 321- 105 margin and requiring the government to develop a plan for indentured servitude, would deny millions of people their right to oppose and organize against government legistation under the First Amendment. “This is as close to a sedition act, a violation of 1st Amendment rights, as has been proposed in recent history. A basic right as a part of our natural, inalienable rights, is to resist government. Our founders not only knew it was a right but it was a responsibility. This legislation begins to break that down significantly,” writes Gary Wood for the Examiner.

GIVE (up your rights) will conscript millions of young people, put them in uniforms and send them packing to 4-year “public service” academies where they will be indoctrinated and trained to become “public sector leaders.”

GIVE was passed by the House on March 18 by an overwhelming bipartisan vote of 321 to 105. “At this moment of economic crisis, when so many people are in need of help and so much needs to be done, this could not be more urgent,” said Obama. “It is up to every one of us to do his or her small part to make the world a better place.”

Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”

Section 120 of the bill addresses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.”

H.R. 1388 not only reauthorizes programs under the National and Community Service Act of 1990 and the Domestic Volunteer Service Act of 1973, but also includes “new programs and studies” and is expected to be funded with an allocation of $6 billion over the next five years, explains Bob Unruh for WND.

“Many, however, are raising concerns that the program, which is intended to include 250,000 ‘volunteers,’ is the beginning of what President Obama called his ‘National Civilian Security Force’ in a a speech last year in which he urged creating an organization as big and well-funded as the U.S. military. He has declined since then to elaborate,” Unruh adds.

It appears Miller’s amendment is designed to strip members of this emerging “National Civilian Security Force” of their constitutional rights under the First Amendment.

The First Amendment reads as follows: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

According to GovTrack.us, the addition of the Miller amendment to GIVE was agreed to by voice vote.

On March 23, a similar bill was passed by the Senate on a 74 to 14 vote. “From President Kennedy’s days to the creation of Americorps by then President Bill Clinton, the notion of public service has become a rallying cry. Tonight’s vote, propelled by President Obama’s urging of an expansion, would mean a growth in such work from 75,000 community service jobs to 250,000,” reported the New York Times.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2009-03-24   16:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#28)

hey there, Nuke, great to see you again.

christine  posted on  2009-03-24   16:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#28)

`(a) Prohibited Activities- A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities:

`(1) Attempting to influence legislation.

It was obvious with the giveaway of the Panama Canal and much more recently with the bailout that Americans CANNOT "influence legislation." A huge majority of Americans were against both those things, yet they both passed easily.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-24   16:06:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: nooz (#16)

While being distracted over AIG, Bonuses etc., the real agenda marches forward unbridled.

dead on.

i haven't read the thread to see if anyone else has posted this, but is it not obvious to all with the passage of this thing that it was the agenda of the government all along? Rs and Ds. traitorous treasonous bastards all. obama was the perfect puppet to pull it off.

christine  posted on  2009-03-24   16:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#32)

Doesn't it have to 'pass' the House too? (In order to become a law)

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-24   16:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#28)

Good to see your handle again.

Have you seen the amendment that makes it illegal to say anything bad about labor unions?


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-03-24   16:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Itistoolate (#33)

right. but do you have any doubt that it will?

christine  posted on  2009-03-24   16:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Itistoolate, christine (#33)

Doesn't it have to 'pass' the House too? (In order to become a law)

HR1388 originated in the House so it has already passed there. If the Senate amended it then there must be a conference committee to work out a deal to reconcile the two versions. This thing is passing, I don't see a problem here. Other than a bad bill and bad policy that is.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-03-24   16:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut, Original_Intent (#28)

`(a) Prohibited Activities- A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities

I think what this language is meant to do is prohibit people participating in "national service" from being used to perform political, religious, or business related services in relation to their service obligation.

In other words, it apparently prevents the very thing many are worried about, except I don't see anything there preventing them from being used as "security forces"...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-24   16:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: farmfriend (#36)

OH SHIT

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-24   16:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent (#0)

This may start it all. If you know what I mean.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   16:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Itistoolate, christine (#33)

Doesn't it have to 'pass' the House too? (In order to become a law)

I think it has already passed the House, it only needed the Senate's stamp of approval.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-03-24   16:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine (#32)

but is it not obvious to all with the passage of this thing that it was the agenda of the government all along? Rs and Ds. traitorous treasonous bastards all. obama was the perfect puppet to pull it off.

Yes.

nooz  posted on  2009-03-24   16:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Itistoolate (#38)

OH SHIT

Exactly.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-03-24   16:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine (#35)

right. but do you have any doubt that it will?

Come on now, what is my screen name?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-24   16:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#9)

As Ben Franklin put it: "Either we all hang together or surely we will all hange separately."

AJ is just a zionist dupe kook agent of the NWO so who cares. -end thick sarcasm-

Some people won't be happy until Alex says:

"Ok, it's time. Today is the day. Grab your guns and let's go get us some !"


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   16:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: FormerLurker (#40)

I think it has already passed the House, it only needed the Senate's stamp of approval.

You know there IS a difference between thinking and knowing?

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-24   16:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: James Deffenbach (#14)

Every one of the sob's who voted in favor of it should be fed to the hogs.

Ground up critter feed.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   16:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Rotara, Itistoolate, Original_Intent, christine, FormerLurker (#39)

This may start it all. If you know what I mean.

OH here is the wet towel they will throw on that. Just like with selective service, you will have to do it in order to get any kind of government assistance or job.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-03-24   16:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: farmfriend (#34)

Have you seen the amendment that makes it illegal to say anything bad about labor unions?

Thomas hasn't posted the text of that Amendment yet.

"Liberty is the solution of all social and economic questions." ~~Joseph A. Labadie

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2009-03-24   16:18:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Lysander_Spooner (#29)

That little mother f**king mossad c*nt rahmbo has been jizzing over this for a long time.

That POS is a dual israel-first f**kwad.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   16:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: christine (#32)

i haven't read the thread to see if anyone else has posted this, but is it not obvious to all with the passage of this thing that it was the agenda of the government all along? Rs and Ds. traitorous treasonous bastards all. obama was the perfect puppet to pull it off.

But, but, bbbut Alex Jones is a zionist deceiver so so so so..


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   16:20:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: farmfriend (#47)

Just like with selective service, you will have to do it in order to get any kind of government assistance or job.

I'm talking about, for instance, if they tried to physically force my children to comply. That's next.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   16:22:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Itistoolate, FormerLurker (#45)

You know there IS a difference between thinking and knowing?

Well I KNOW it passed the House. Trust the lobbyist.

3/9/2009 Introduced in House
3/16/2009 Reported (Amended) by the Committee on Education and Labor. H. Rept. 111-37.
3/18/2009 Passed/agreed to in House: On passage Passed by the Yeas and Nays: 321 - 105 (Roll no. 140).
3/23/2009 Senate floor actions: Cloture on the motion to proceed to the measure invoked in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 74 - 14. Record Vote Number: 108.

This means they have voted to close debate. The votes aren't up yet for the bill.

Thomas, Library of Congress is the best place to get legislative information.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-03-24   16:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: farmfriend (#52)

I was just grasping for straws.

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-03-24   16:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#48)

Thomas hasn't posted the text of that Amendment yet.

It was a House amendment.

H.AMDT.49 (A012)

Amends: H.R.1388
Sponsor: Rep Miller, George [CA-7] (offered 3/18/2009)

AMENDMENT PURPOSE: Amendment to prohibit organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing.

STATUS:

3/18/2009 4:32pm:
Amendment (A012) offered by Mr. Miller, George. (consideration: CR H3607; text: CR H3607)
3/18/2009 4:32pm:
On agreeing to the Miller, George amendment (A012) Agreed to by voice vote.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-03-24   16:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Itistoolate (#53)

I was just grasping for straws.

Quit grasping and bend over!


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-03-24   16:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#48)

Thomas hasn't posted the text of that Amendment yet.

It's not from Thomas, but this from the House Bill:

www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1388/text

snip

SEC. 125. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS. ‘(a) Prohibited Activities- A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage

‘(1) Attempting to influence legislation.

‘(2) Organizing or engaging in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes.

‘(3) Assisting, promoting, or deterring union organizing.

‘(4) Impairing existing contracts for services or collective bargaining agreements.

‘(5) Engaging in partisan political activities, or other activities designed to influence the outcome of an election to any public office.

‘(6) Participating in, or endorsing, events or activities that are likely to include advocacy for or against political parties, political platforms, political candidates, proposed legislation, or elected officials

‘(7) Engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.

‘(8) Providing a direct benefit to--

‘(A) a business organized for profit;

‘(B) a labor organization;

‘(C) a partisan political organization;

‘(D) a nonprofit organization that fails to comply with the restrictions contained in section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 except that nothing in this section shall be construed to prevent participants from engaging in advocacy activities undertaken at their own initiative; and

‘(E) an organization engaged in the religious activities described in paragraph (7), unless Corporation assistance is not used to support those religious activities.

‘(9) Conducting a voter registration drive or using Corporation funds to conduct a voter registration drive.

‘(10) Such other activities as the Corporation may prohibit.

‘(b) Ineligible Organizations- No assistance provided under this subtitle may be provided to the following types of organizations (including the participation of a participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle in activities conducted by such organizations) or to organizations that are co-located on the same premises as the following organizations:

‘(1) Organizations that provide or promote abortion services, including referral for such services.

‘(2) For-profit organizations, political parties, labor organizations, or organizations engaged in political or legislative advocacy.

‘(3) Organizations that have been indicted for voter fraud.

‘(c) Nondisplacement of Employed Workers or Other Volunteers- A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not perform any services or duties or engage in activities which--

‘(1) would otherwise be performed by an employed worker as part of his or her assigned duties as an employee or by another volunteer who is not a participant in an approved national service position; or

‘(2) will supplant the hiring of employed workers or work of such other volunteers.’.

snip

nooz  posted on  2009-03-24   16:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Both of my MFin, CSukin POS Senators voted for this Bill

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00108

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-03-24   19:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Refinersfire (#57)

Whatever you do, do NOT send them a tea bag !

(not an expensive one at least !!)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   19:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Rotara (#58)

Whatever you do, do NOT send them a tea bag !

(not an expensive one at least !!)

You know it is funny that you type that, as I sent that POS from NJ, a whole box of Lipton Tea. Haven't heard anything back from him yet, tho I did tape a copy of a report, on the Boston Tea Party on the box. I wonder if he "got" what the tea bags meant yet?

Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-03-24   19:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Refinersfire (#59)

You know it is funny that you type that, as I sent that POS from NJ, a whole box of Lipton Tea. Haven't heard anything back from him yet, tho I did tape a copy of a report, on the Boston Tea Party on the box. I wonder if he "got" what the tea bags meant yet?

eheheheeee

You might have upgraded lists then !


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-24   19:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: farmfriend (#55)

Quit grasping and bend over

lol..quit wit there.

christine  posted on  2009-03-24   19:40:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Original_Intent (#3)

(((((The Fall of The Republic Ping.)))))

bump!

litus  posted on  2009-03-24   20:36:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Rotara, farmfriend, christine (#39)

This may start it all. If you know what I mean.

Yes I do.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the Courts though as it appears to be clearly in violation of the 14th Amendment prohibitions against involuntary servitude and indenture.

Of course we know the courts are corrupt but the prohibitions are pretty explicit. It will be interesting to see how they try to dance around it.

The actions of the corrupt puppet are rather clear:

Next step is to ban small farms by regulating them out of existence and then they come for the gardens.

Oh'bummer's move to plant a garden at the Whore House was a great PR move because the suckers will react exactly as predicted and ignore the very bills that will ban their access to wholesome food under the pretext of "food safety". Ummmmmmmmmm GMO Meat, Potatoes, and Corn. Who cares if everyone dies of cancer at 40.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-25   1:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: TooConservative (#25)

I'd also guess they'll be tying this to getting Pell grants and college loans and such. So the rich kids won't have to participate if they don't want to, just the poor and the middle class.

I think you can pretty well count on that. Or the wealthy and connected will get Plum jobs doing what self styled upper crust schmucks do - like Georgy going AWOL to work on politics.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-25   1:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Original_Intent, Rotara, christine (#63)

According to thomas the Senate hasn't voted yet.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-03-25   7:49:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Original_Intent (#63)

They've made us all 'criminals' of one stripe or another.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-25   12:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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