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Title: a call to ALL patriots to unite!
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URL Source: http://www.wethepeoplecongress.org
Published: Mar 25, 2009
Author: MING THE MERCILESS
Post Date: 2009-03-25 16:59:01 by MING THE MERCILESS
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Views: 509
Comments: 31
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#1. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#0)
Great idea! Give up your name AND your IP to someone that has a fancy website. But it does sound patriotic. Like the PATRIOT act sounded so patriotic.
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Been there done that.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
Give up your name AND your IP to someone that has a fancy website. LOL, no kidding. Other than give your information out willingly to what could be a fed info collection clearinghouse, it would accomplish absolutely Zero. Second time I've seen us urged to divulge our info to this same site.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
But it does sound patriotic. Like the PATRIOT act sounded so patriotic. You know I hear ya. I thought about it after I joined. It is ligit from everything I've seen. However there is a matter of a record of me. But truthfully to make a change through means other than Revolution by force one must at least make the attempts by other means first; or any other actions would not have honor or be just. Bob Shulz has been on c-span several times. He represents himself as an honorable man who believes in the Constitution and our cause. At this stage he is risking a great deal to pursue this endeavor. Perhaps even his own life!! I guess I'll have to take a few risks too. You can't expect to change things back to our CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC and remain untouched in one way or another.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
If you think for one second that the feds don't know exactly who and where you are already.... well... you might be a redneck. hehehe
#2. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#0)
#3. To: PSUSA (#1)
(Edited)
Great idea!
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#4. To: PSUSA (#1)
Give up your name AND your IP to someone that has a fancy website.
#5. To: IndieTX, PSUSA (#3)
Other than give your information out willingly to what could be a fed info collection clearinghouse
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
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#6. To: phantom patriot (#4)
The great and powerful Oz has no intention of ever allowing that to happen.
You can't expect to change things back to our CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC .......
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
#7. To: Critter (#5)
I have no doubt on either.
If you think for one second that the feds don't know exactly who and where you are already.... well... you might be a redneck. hehehe
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
#8. To: IndieTX (#6)
Oh, I have no doubt! But, in your life have you run up against a wall where you felt like there is just no way, but then something kicked ya in the rear end and you became determined to try. That's where I am on this subject. I truly believe there are more people than anyone realizes who feel the same way. For whatever reason they stay quiet. Many young people are discovering our Constitution and Bill of Rights and are understanding what has happened at least that liberties are on the run. The more that come to this understanding the better. Not many of the young people like to be controlled to the extent this gov. wishes. It is up to us to make sure they understand and protect the Constitution for thier own benefit. And not falter like the generations before us. That's just my humble opinion, long winded as it was.
The great and powerful Oz has no intention of ever allowing that to happen.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
#9. To: phantom patriot (#4)
If you still have faith in the system, then I see your point. It's that I have no such faith. Not anymore.
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#10. To: Critter (#5)
True, but there's no point in making it any easier for them. I fell for the online petition thing before. It's, IMO, an exercise in futility at best, and a gathering of intel at worst.
If you think for one second that the feds don't know exactly who and where you are already.... well... you might be a redneck. hehehe
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#11. To: IndieTX (#3)
I dont mind giving out my info to selected people here, if there is a good reason for it. I have a pretty good idea on who can be trusted and who cant be, especially now. But to just hand it out to some website? Not a good idea, IMO.
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#12. To: PSUSA (#1)
Scammers. Google them up.
#13. To: PSUSA (#11)
A sample of their work from CaliforniaTaxAttorneyBlog.com: Robert L. Schulz And “We The People” Sued By Feds To Stop Tax Scam These are the same idiots that sued Iowa over their election, supposedly to "help" Ron Paul there. His campaign opposed their meddling. If you look into their activities, it's not good.
#14. To: TooConservative (#13)
If a person wants to keep their money, then dont tell anyone and dont file. And work for yourself. To use some bogus forms doesn't make sense to me. You're still playing their game.
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#15. To: PSUSA (#11)
But to just hand it out to some website? Not a good idea, IMO Again if you bothered to read the content you wouldn't expose yourself of making idiotic statements. We are organizing in every state. We have meetings to elect coordinators and eventually delegates from every state to attend a NEW Continental Congress in 2009. And that would be the People of the United States. NOT the current Congress that holds office and won't answer our greivences, which by the way is our Constitutional rights. Every congress critter has been served legally with each petition of regress grievence and so far we have been ignored by these so called congressmen/women. That is why we are forming this CC 2009. (For a full list of grievences go to the website www.wethepeople.org
I dont mind giving out my info to selected people here, if there is a good reason for it. I have a pretty good idea on who can be trusted and who cant be, especially now.
#16. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#15)
We? "we are organizing"? "we have meetings"? You cannot beat them by playing their game. You can expose everything you care to expose, but they dont fear exposure. Want to resist? Resistance is an action, not a bitching session. But I really do hope this works, assuming this isnt a .gov game being played. I dont believe it will work, but I hope it will. The alternative is violent revolution, and no sane person wants that.
Again if you bothered to read the content you wouldn't expose yourself of making idiotic statements. We are organizing in every state. We have meetings to elect coordinators and eventually delegates from every state to attend a NEW Continental Congress in 2009. And that would be the People of the United States. NOT the current Congress that holds office and won't answer our greivences, which by the way is our Constitutional rights. Every congress critter has been served legally with each petition of regress grievence and so far we have been ignored by these so called congressmen/women. That is why we are forming this CC 2009. (For a full list of grievences go to the website www.wethepeople.org
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#17. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#0)
Leaderless resistance is the way to go. All of us know what to do when the time comes.
#18. To: PSUSA, bluegrass (#16)
do you think a millions person march on washington would be effective as suggested in the video Happy posted?
#19. To: christine (#18)
I dont know. I dont see how it is logistically feasible. I can also see them being slaughtered. A favorite tactic is to infiltrate a demonstration and cause trouble. That tactic is a modification of a police tactic in Applegates book "kill or get killed", IIRC. It can be downloaded at my sigline link. I think we need millions of non-filers. That will get their complete and undivided attention in a hurry.
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#20. To: PSUSA (#19)
millions more you mean ;)
I think we need millions of non-filers. That will get their complete and undivided attention in a hurry.
#21. To: christine, PSUSA (#18)
If there were millions of people that went to DC, all committed to doing whatever is necessary, then it would be effective. Just another day-long march is pointless. Regardless of what we may think of him now, MLK was killed for one reason: he was about to take over DC with a million people. TBTP couldn't allow that. "It was the assessment of the Army that [King] would lose control of [the Poor People's Campaign in Washington D.C.]. And the more violent and radical amongst the forces would take control and they would have a revolution on their hands in the nation's capital. And they couldn't put down that revolution. They didn't have enough troops. Westmoreland wanted 200,000 for Vietnam. They didn't have those. They simply didn't have enough troops to put down what they thought was going to be the revolution that would result from that encampment." http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/WFP020403.html
We'll know when the time's right.
#22. To: christine (#20)
yeah (wink wink, nod nod)
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#23. To: PSUSA (#19)
We are not planning a demonsration. We are planning a Continental Congres for delegates chosen by WE The People from every state in the union. It will not be in D.C. but another location. Look, What we are doing is following our founding fathers actions and recreating history. We will them decide what the appropriate next step will be, we being the U.S. citizens who are involved. Are you a 3 percenter? It only took 3% of the population to start the last revolution. So yes we know it works because it happened in 1776. We are in progress of contacting all of the scattered organizations leaders out there. We ask that you all put aside your differences and unite. We may disagree on issues but we are all Americans and need to unite despite our differences on issues. This is a call for all of us to meet on a common ground and restore our country and Constitution, don't get caught up in issues and meet that platform. It is all of your duty to uphold the Constitution which is first and foremost.Without this we have nothing.
#24. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#23) (Edited)
Those 3% picked up their muskets, powder and ball and fought. I dont see what you are doing as the same thing unless you intend to issue a call to arms. You're right though, we do need to set aside our differences. I think we are all capable of that, except for those that have their own agendas. That is one of the reasons I wont join a militia. Too many wannabe leaders that will only get their men killed. I'd rather be alone. The problem, as I see it, is that things like this depend on getting people to do things based only on higher ideals. That doesn't work on any kind of needed scale, and higher ideals will not help motivate anyone when lead starts flying. The way I see this, that is a huge weakness we have, and a great strength our .gov "leaders" have. They are deceptive as all hell, but they address peoples needs and desires. We already hold those higher ideals, nothing wrong with that. But IMO you will be preaching to the choir, and that might not be enough. What would you rather go into battle with, 3% or 20% of the population? That's just the fighters, not those that are needed to support them. No one is going to risk his life unless there is a personal benefit, no matter the motivation. That personal benefit needs to be beaten into peoples heads, so to speak. IOW show how restoring the republic will be in a persons best interests instead of relying on patriot-speak. Do that and we can win without firing a shot.
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#25. To: PSUSA (#24)
I stated that we are forming this CC 2009 to decide what the next step(s) will be. What happened in 1776? "We already hold those higher ideals, nothing wrong with that. But IMO you will be preaching to the choir, and that might not be enough. What would you rather go into battle with, 3% or 20% of the population? That's just the fighters, not those that are needed to support them." You must start some where. We have 3%. Infact we figure we have more than that already. What you fail to read is what the mission of We the People CC 09 is. We are trying to unite all of the splintered groups and people out there that have been screaminh out for action. If we can do this we will have your 20% and more,
#26. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#25)
I wish you well. I really do. I dont exactly look forward to getting shot at. But I'll face it if I have to.
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#27. To: IndieTX (#6)
You seem to understand the allegorical nature of the Wizard of Oz completely. Your statement has several layers of meaning. ;)
The great and powerful Oz has no intention of ever allowing that to happen.
#28. To: PSUSA (#26)
It's a question if you want to stand alone or together
#29. To: duckhunter (#27)
Yes, and yes ;)
You seem to understand the allegorical nature of the Wizard of Oz completely. Your statement has several layers of meaning. ;)
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
#30. To: MING THE MERCILESS (#28)
Together, cautiously, FWIW. I know, and am sure you know, there are people out there that will try and take something like this over and use it for their own benefit. Either find a way to keep these people out, or lose. IMO if the agenda is honest and focused you stand a chance.
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#31. To: PSUSA (#30)
Don't you think we know that? Already addressed
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