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Title: Cape "tea party" canceled;(by the government) City fears too many attendees
Source: http://www.winknews.com
URL Source: http://www.winknews.com/news/top/42019772.html
Published: Mar 29, 2009
Author: WINK News
Post Date: 2009-03-29 14:26:30 by freepatriot32
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Keywords: tea party, canceled, florida, libertarians
Views: 1441
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CAPE CORAL, Fla. - A tea party to protest government spending and taxing is canceled. Canceled by the government.

Why? They feel too many people could show-up.

Lynn Rosko planned to hold a tax payer tea party at Jaycee Park in Cape Coral on April 1st. The idea was announced at a Cape Coral City Council meeting, then an e-mail blast by the Republican Party and it was mentioned in the local media.

With all of that attention, the City of Cape Coral felt there could be more than 500 people attending the tea party.

Therefore Rosko needed to get a permit and insurance for the event. Rosko says she's not willing to get insurance and accept liability for something that a stranger could do. Rosko told WINK News, "I have rescinded any organizing or supervision or what ever you want to call it over this tea party on April 1st."

WINK News spoke to the director of parks for Cape Coral. He says that even now if Rosko is willing to get insurance for the event he'll likely re-authorize it.

For now Rosko's event is canceled, she's encouraging people to attend the April 15th Tax Payer Tea Party in Centennial Park in Fort Myers.


Tea party cancelled? Are the organizers a bunch of pussies? Just quit and turn tail like a bunch of effeminiate sissies every time flag-burning marxists tell you no this is why i'll be damned if i'll fight in the coming revolution. I will not under any circumstances risk my and my familys life to secure the freedoms of a bunch of assholes that will be hiding in thier basements pissing themselves when there is a knock on the door from the gestapo and if we win the revolution those same group of pussies that probably will volenteer to fill the shower tubes with the vexon themselves so as not to anger the guards will just give it all back to a overbearing all encompaassing goverment anyway if they say they will keep the people safe fuck them ill watch thier mass deaths and burial in mass graves on cnn from a foriegn country Subscribe to *libertarians*

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#37. To: Rhino369 (#36)

I was hoping goldi would claim she matched my IP address or something like that because that would be impossible. I've been using Sprint mobile broadband as my internet for the last two months. And that uses a different ip every time I log connect. That would have caught her in a lie.

Yeah, I'm sure she's bullshitting. There's no way she can know if it was you or not.

meguro  posted on  2009-03-31   10:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Rhino369 (#15)

BTW what is the libel shit she is talking about?

I think Ubermensch implied that packbot and maybe another poster were pedophiles.

Something along those lines. I'm happy to hear you weren't posting as Ubermensch. Why would Goldi make up a story like that?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-03-31   10:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Fred Mertz (#38)

I think Ubermensch implied that packbot and maybe another poster were pedophiles.

It was satire, intended to mock packbot for the stupid crap he posts.

Why would Goldi make up a story like that?

Goldi seems to have it out for Rhino... seems personal. I don't know how she can know it was him. I asked her for her proof, but she wouldn't tell me. I suspect she's lying.

meguro  posted on  2009-03-31   10:36:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: meguro, war (#39)

I asked her for her proof, but she wouldn't tell me.

I saw that. She claimed that she didn't want to reveal her clandestine methods or something like that.

My contributions to that site have just dried up. war warned me about her months ago privately.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-03-31   10:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Fred Mertz (#38)

Something along those lines. I'm happy to hear you weren't posting as Ubermensch. Why would Goldi make up a story like that?

She already put me on a two week suspension two weeks ago to the day before she declared me ubermensh and banned me forever for calling her a liar (when she was obviously lying). My guess is either she wanted to permanently ban me the first time, but didn't want to piss people off, and used this as an excuse. Or she actually believes I was ubermensh. She believes a lot of things for no reason, especially after Obama won. She claimed black people were acting funny and were planning to riot, she thinks Obama is a gay, terrorist, atheist, muslim, and she literally thinks he will get thrown out of office because he was born in Kenya. This shows she believes whatever she wants to believe, without regard to evidence or logic. I'm guessing its the latter reason. She hated me because I called her a liar, and in her mind that is proof I'm a troll.

She's done shit like this before. Every couple months she pulls a stunt like this, randomly bans a person for little to no reason, yet allows other posters to spam the board continually. She just isn't very bright and is in over her head.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   10:46:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Rhino369 (#41)

Thanks. She certainly is very biased in who gets punished and who gets away with anything and everything. Idol Hanz comes to mind first; but there are many others whose malfeasance she ignores.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-03-31   10:49:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Fred Mertz, Rhino369 (#40)

I saw that. She claimed that she didn't want to reveal her clandestine methods or something like that.

I don't think she has any methods. The only way you could tell is if the poster was using the same IP address.

I don't think Rhino is the type of guy to do that, nor did I think the other poster's posts resembled Rhino's style. In addition, Rhino did emerge as "Rhino2."

meguro  posted on  2009-03-31   10:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Fred Mertz, Rhino369 (#42)

Look at yukon, liberator, or beyond the sea. Has she ever reprimanded any of them?

meguro  posted on  2009-03-31   10:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: meguro (#44)

She also banned lucymom for no reason, and everyone assumed it was a computer error, but it was the same message I got when I got banned. IMO she tried to ban lucymom without anyone knowing. I wonder who else she did it to. She made a public display of me because I'd just resign up.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   10:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Rhino369 (#45)

She also banned lucymom for no reason, and everyone assumed it was a computer error, but it was the same message I got when I got banned. IMO she tried to ban lucymom without anyone knowing. I wonder who else she did it to. She made a public display of me because I'd just resign up.

I'd forget about it. That site is a big waste of time. You're better off without it.

meguro  posted on  2009-03-31   11:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: meguro, rhino369, FredMertz, Fred Mertz (#46)

That site is a big waste of time.

On that I agree somwwhat...every now and again I go through old exchanges and a good portion of them through until late 2007 and fairly good give and take.

Very little beyond that is...

She really should have designated a mod.

war  posted on  2009-03-31   12:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Rhino369 (#12)

No! If she wanted to ban me, why does she have to make up a stupid story to do it. Ah well. The place sucks now anyway.

And this site got twice the unique visitors last month as LP. Even Freedomunderground got more unique visitors. I should look up Stone's site to see if it beat out LP too. LOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2009-03-31   12:15:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mininggold (#48)

And this site got twice the unique visitors last month as LP. Even Freedomunderground got more unique visitors. I should look up Stone's site to see if it beat out LP too. LOLOL

I always assumed LP was the bigger amongst the fringe political sites, but about two months ago I realized I was only talking to maybe 20 posters a week. We all just posted a lot. It wouldn't surprise me if less than 500 unique actual people go on the site. I always knew these sites were totally irrelevant but I didn't realize how small LP got. I really should have left after the Ron Paul banning, that was bullshit. I didn't follow her rules on that but out of principle I should left.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   12:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Rhino369 (#49)

I always assumed LP was the bigger amongst the fringe political sites, but about two months ago I realized I was only talking to maybe 20 posters a week. We all just posted a lot. It wouldn't surprise me if less than 500 unique actual people go on the site. I always knew these sites were totally irrelevant but I didn't realize how small LP got. I really should have left after the Ron Paul banning, that was bullshit. I didn't follow her rules on that but out of principle I should left.

That left a real bad taste in my mouth too, especially when everyone could see the antipauls were posting at least half of the offending articles. And I think only one, rockchalker or whatever, took a hit.

She deliberately made using the word "kook" a bannable offense to get at BurkemanI, even though it was domer and yukon's favorite word.

mininggold  posted on  2009-03-31   12:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Rhino369 (#41)

because he was born in Kenya.

Since he has spent "considerable time and money" to keep his real birth certificate under wraps rather than the few minutes and few bucks to produce it, it does cause people to wonder. Not his rabid supporters of course because those who BELIEVE in him are much like those who BELIEVED in Bush. Their hero is right and anyone who questions them is un-American or a KOOK.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   12:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: James Deffenbach (#51)

Since he has spent "considerable time and money" to keep his real birth certificate under wraps rather than the few minutes and few bucks to produce it, it does cause people to wonder. Not his rabid supporters of course because those who BELIEVE in him are much like those who BELIEVED in Bush. Their hero is right and anyone who questions them is un-American or a KOOK.

I didn't vote for Obama and believing him has nothing to do with trusting him. He's got a legal COLB from Hawaii, either Hawaii is engaging in a conspiracy or he was born there. Seeing as there isn't a shred of evidence that suggests he was born in Kenya its reasonable to believe he was born in Hawaii.

If you have real, sourced, reliable, non-hearsay evidence he was born in Kenya, or you have real, non anonymous, expert (with real respectable credentials) that say the COLB is fake, show me and I'll change my mind.

Otherwise I'm not interested in rehashing a conspiracy theory that's only purpose serves to keep conservatives focused on a wild goose chase.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   12:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mininggold (#50)

That left a real bad taste in my mouth too, especially when everyone could see the antipauls were posting at least half of the offending articles. And I think only one, rockchalker or whatever, took a hit.

I didn't even understand the problem. The pro-paul threads were not flame wars but discussions where a very large number of the posters on the board supported paul. The pro-paul posters outnumbered the anti-paul posters at least 4-1. The only ones who hated paul were the neocons and the bush bots.

Goldi hated Paul for his foreign policy (because it was America ONLY).

It was pure censorship, not moderation since there was no problem in the first place.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   12:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Rhino369 (#52) (Edited)

uh huh. The fact that the pos they photoshopped on the internet is not even accepted by HAWAII to prove Hawaiian descent is irrelevant I suppose. The fact that his grandmother in Kenya said he was born in Kenya or the fact that his sister claimed that he was born in two different hospitals in Hawaii makes no difference either I suppose. Or the fact that Pakistan knows he was born in Kenya and gives that information to students who are taking a test to work for the government--posted the screen capture of that on here just a few days ago. But all of that is irrelevant to folks who can find no wrong in allowing an illegal alien to be president.

IF he has an actual birth certificate--a long form birth certificate like the one I had to produce to get a passport--then why won't he produce that? Instead of doing that he has spent, according to an article that was posted on LP and favorable to Obama, "considerable time and money" to keep it hidden. Just answer that if you can. I have yet to see one of his supporters who could answer that question--not one.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   13:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: James Deffenbach (#54)

uh huh. The fact that the pos they photoshopped on the internet is not even accepted by HAWAII to prove Hawaiian descent is irrelevant I suppose.

Its not photoshopped and if you think it is show me an expert who will risk his reputation on it. Just one. Should be easy right?

uh huh. The fact that the pos they photoshopped on the internet is not even accepted by HAWAII to prove Hawaiian descent is irrelevant I suppose.

Yes it is irrelevant. Do you know why they don't accept it to prove Hawaiian ancestry? Because it doesn't list where your parents were born. In order to be considered Hawaiian ancestry your parents must be born in Hawaii as well. Seeing as Hawaiian ancestry has nothing to do with the constitutional qualification it is irreverent, QED.

The fact that his grandmother in Kenya said he was born in Kenya or the fact that his sister claimed that he was born in two different hospitals in Hawaii makes no difference either I suppose.

Nope, I don't for sure know where my brothers were born. I could probably guess its the same place as where I was born and my sister was born but I really have no way to know.

Or the fact that Pakistan knows he was born in Kenya and gives that information to students who are taking a test to work for the government--posted the screen capture of that on here just a few days ago.

Source? Like I said if you give me credible info I'll believe you. So far you are making arguments without direct evidence, which is extremely suspicious.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   13:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: James Deffenbach (#54)

IF he has an actual birth certificate--a long form birth certificate like the one I had to produce to get a passport--then why won't he produce that?

You are asking him to prove his innocence, based on charges that have absolutely no supporting evidence. Even worse you are claiming refusal to prove innocence as evidence of guilt.

This sort of thinking is the product of a police state mind. I know you don't think that way normally so why now?

He produced a legal COLB, that proves he was born in Hawaii. Your only reason for not accepting it is a baseless accusation of forgery. We both know if he provided the original ink BC you'd call it a forgery too.

Why do you think Obama owes you more explanation than whats he has given you. He already provided more birth documentation than any president has ever done before, and it isn't good enough. Nothing will be good enough for you. When dealing with people with that attitude the only tactic is to ignore them. And it is working.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   13:18:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Rhino369 (#55) (Edited)

1. Nope, I don't for sure know where my brothers were born. I could probably guess its the same place as where I was born and my sister was born but I really have no way to know.

2. Source? Like I said if you give me credible info I'll believe you. So far you are making arguments without direct evidence, which is extremely suspicious.

1. So, if you don't know where your brothers were born don't make any claims about it. Don't do like Obama's sister, or half sister or whatever she is, and claim that one or both of your brothers (or ever how many you have) were each born in TWO different hospitals.

2. As I said, I posted it on here a few days ago. I will try to dig it up and post a link for you but I doubt you will accept it. When you can't even be bothered that the man's own sister says he was born in two different hospiatals and his own grandmother says he was born in Kenya, there is no evidence you will accept.

Here is the title of the article. You can hunt it up yourself if you are interested (which I don't believe).

President of USA (44th) Barrack Hussain Obama of Democratic Party* (Kenyan born) (Since 20th Jan 2009)

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   13:18:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: James Deffenbach (#57)

1. So, if you don't know where your brothers were born don't make any claims about it. Don't do like Obama's sister, or half sister or whatever she is, and claim that one or both of your brothers (or ever how many you have) were each born in TWO different hospitals.

I still haven't ever seen any documentation that she even said this, and there have been false claims about her already (like her COLB that doesn't exist), however it is irreverent. All you are showing here is that his sister talks about stuff she isn't sure about. It at best discredits her, and means anything she says can't be trust. That in no way is evidence he wasn't born in the US, just that his sister is unreliable.

2. As I said, I posted it on here a few days ago. I will try to dig it up and post a link for you but I doubt you will accept it.

If the evidence is legit I will. But so far none of the evidence has turned up real. I'm not about to bet that the birther group suddenly got serious.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   13:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Rhino369 (#56)

You are asking him to prove his innocence, based on charges that have absolutely no supporting evidence. Even worse you are claiming refusal to prove innocence as evidence of guilt.

Uh, no, Sherlock. I am asking him to produce a REAL birth certificate. One like I had to produce to get a freakin' passport. Why is he better than I am?

He produced a legal COLB, that proves he was born in Hawaii.

Wrong again. What he produced proves nothing since children who were born in foreign countries can get one of those.

Hawaii Issues Birth Certificates to Foreign Born Residents! Here’s Hawaii saying it like it it. All Doubts Cleared my Friends.

[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

A. From Hawaii’s official Department of Health, Vital Records webpage: “Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country“ (applies to adopted children).

B. A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under HRS 338-5.

C. Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8. A foreign birth presumably would have been recorded by the American consular of the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the Hawaiian birth certificate.

D. Hawaiian law, however, expressly acknowledges that its system is subject to error. See, for example, HRS 338-17.

E. Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3.

F. Even the Hawaii Department of Home Lands does not accept a certified copy of a birth certificate as conclusive evidence for its homestead program. From its web site: “In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.”

Your boy produced a "Certification of Live Birth," not a Certificate of Live Birth. And Hawaii says there is a difference. And this also proves that Obama could have been born in Greenland or China and gotten what he produced for his gullible and naive sycophants.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   13:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Rhino369 (#58)

If the evidence is legit I will. But so far none of the evidence has turned up real. I'm not about to bet that the birther group suddenly got serious.

He!!, if your Obamasiah told you himself that he was born in Kenya you would claim he was being forced to admit it and that it wasn't true. Your use of the term "birther" shows your mindset.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   13:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: James Deffenbach. the thread (#54)

some questions we've covered here from a poster on cynicsunlimited.com -

Barry, your mother was pure Caucasian white and your father was African black so why do you incorrectly identify yourself as an African Black rather than identify yourself as the appropriate designation of Mulatto or Bi-Racial?

Barry, are ashamed of or angry at being Mulatto or Bi-Racial?

Barry, why did Alex Jones exclude this important topic from his documentary about you?

Barry, what is the first name is on your birth certificate, Barry or Barack?

Barry, what is the last name on your birth certificate, Obama or Dunham ( your mother’s maiden name)?

Barry, were you born in Hawaii?

Barry, were you born in Kenya?

Barry, was your biological father a natural born American citizen?

Barry, was your biological father not born in the United States?

Barry, are you aware the United States Constitution prohibits a person from being President of the United States if one of his/her parents is not born in the United States?

Barry, what month and year did your mother and stepfather legally change your last name to Soetoro?

Barry, did you know Indonesia, the home country of your step-father, does not allow dual citizenship?

Barry, what month and year did you become a Indonesian citizen? Barry, did you become a Indonesian citizen when your parents legally changed your last name to Soetoro?

Barry, when you moved to Hawaii as a citizen of Indonesia with name of Barry Soetoro, did you complete the required steps to become a United States citizen?

Barry, if you did not complete the required steps to become a United States citizen while you were an Indonesian citizen then how do you claim to be an American citizen?

Barry, can you produce the appropriate legal documentations that verify you became a United States citizen and revoked your Indonesian citizenship when you moved to Hawaii? Barry, did you know that one is required to be and prove they are an American citizen to file for the election of the United States Federal positions of Senator and President? Barry, if you cannot produce legal naturalization papers, where is your proof you are a legal citizen of the United States of America? Barry, can you detail how you avoided producing the appropriate legal documents to prove your proper name and citizenship before being elected a Senator from Illinois and President of the United States?

Barry, what month and year did you legally change your legal name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Obama?

Barry, if you DID NOT legally change your legal adopted Indonesian name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Obama, did you know you are the first person to be elected President of the United States while using an alias name and having the status of an illegal alien? Barry, are executive orders, legislative bills and all other related United States Presidential documents signed with your alias name, Barack Obama while you remain a legal Indonesian citizen and an illegal alien in the United States, legal, enforceable, constitutional and binding?

Barry, did you know Vice-President Dick Chaney did not follow the legally mandated procedures when he illegally verified the electoral vote for President of the United States in January 2009?

Barry, what is your relationship with one Zbigneiw Brzezinski?

Barry, is Brzezinski your mentor, guide, teacher and supporter?

Barry, did you know Zbigneiw also was the mentor, guide, teacher and supporter of the notorious Pol Pot who was the bloody dictator of Cambodia in the1970s?

Barry, did you know your fellow Brzezinski protégée killed millions of Cambodian citizens whose only crime was being Buddhist?

Barry, did you know your fellow Brzezinski protégée did not harm, attack or kill Cambodian citizens who were practicing a specific religion?

Barry, do you know name of the specific religion practiced by Cambodians that your fellow protégée Pol Pot protected and spared?

Barry, do you know who educated, employs, provides office space and staff and publishes the policy papers of your mentor Zbigneiw Brzezinski?

Barry, did you know the same organization that educated, employs, provides office staff and publishes the policy papers of Zbigneiw Brzezinski also educated, employs, provides office space and staff and publishes the policy papers of Henry Kissinger?

Barry, did you know on the continent of Africa (your half home), Henry Kissinger’s nickname is Dr. Death because of his direct participation in arming numerous religious factions who slaughtered their religious opponents?

Barry, did you know the same organization that educated, employs, provides office staff and publishes the papers of Zbigneiw Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger also educated, employs and provides office space and staff and publishes the policy papers of the authors of the absurd and unconstitutional 2001 Patriot Act and the 2009 Stimulus Package?

Barry, is the 2009 Stimulus Package or any legislation you sign a completed legal document of law with your alias and illegal alien signature?

Barry, did you know Alex Jones and his guests such as author/historian Webster Tarpley and politician/author Jesse Ventura, who appear in the documentary about you, craftily and purposely do not mention who pulls the strings of control on your mentors Zbigneiw Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger?

Barry, who are the absolute and highest controllers of Brzezinski and Kissinger that Jones, Tarpley and Ventura dare not mention?

Barry, will you check-out these websites? www.csis.org/component/op...task,view/type,34/id,108/ www.csis.org/component/op...task,view/type,34/id,197/

Barry, is a partial truth any different from a lie?

Barry, are you relieved and glad to know that Jones, Tarpley and Ventura are promoting partial truths (lies) with gross omissions about you that protect and cover-up the true and hidden in plain sight controllers of you, Brzezinski and Kissinger?

Barry, because Jones, Tarpley and Ventura protect the true controllers of you, Brzezinski and Kissinger are these three personalities and others such as Jeff Rense and George Noory also media stooges for your controllers?

Barry, how did Brzezinski, Kissinger, their fanatical religious controllers, Jones, Tarpley and the corporate and alternative news media cover-up your alias name and illegal alien status?

Barry, did you know Jones blatantly lied in his documentary about you when he stated that British agents tried to assassinate Andrew Jackson because he opposed a private central bank?

Barry, did you know the assassin who tried to shoot President Jackson with two pistols that misfired had indisputable ties to a fanatical religious organization and the failed assassin had no connections whatsoever with British provocateurs and spies?

Barry did you know that in Jones’s documentary about you Alex and Webster totally avoided the 137 year effort of the religious zealots to establish a private central bank in America that culminated in the passage of the Federal Reserve Act in 1913 that established the Federal Reserve Bank..owned by private/non-government interests?

Barry, do you feel safe and secure knowing Alex Jones, Webster Tarpley and others in the alternative media will not discuss in any communications outlet or forum the true, top level and ultimate controllers of you, Brzezinski, Kissinger, royalty, the international banking cartel, the Bilderberg Group, the corporate elite, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Tri-Lateral Commission, Knights of Malta, the Freemasons et al and more?

Barry, are your mentors, the organizations listed above and their top level controllers fermenting, promoting and creating the problem of civil unrest and chaos to justify imposing their solution of a New World Order so the top level controllers have complete and total control over the Earth?

Barry, how are the lethal fleet of elite globalists in your administration any different from the hoard of deadly elite globalists in the George W. Bush and William Clinton administrations?

Barry, why do you want to delete the oath public officials and members of the military take to protect and defend the United States Constitution and replace this crucial promise by having them pledge their sole loyalty to only the President of the United States?

Barry, obviously you did not concoct such a ridiculous proposal so which one of your handlers devised this scheme?

Barry, did you know most asleep Americans could care less about these questions?

Barry, did you know I care?

Barry, did you know that I will not use the word President and the word Obama in a combination sequence until you successfully and satisfactorily answer the above questions or similar questions in front of the United States Supreme Court by you or your attorneys related to your eligibility as a citizen of the United States and to be President of the United States?

Barry, did you know I will always refer to you as Illegal Alien Barry, Illegal Barry, Alien Barry, patsy Barry, stooge Barry or just plain Barry…when you prove who and what you really are then the proper respectful titles will be included? Barry, because you do not have any kind of proven legal name, birth information, American citizenship, election, or title, the 2008 Presidential election is voided and an emergency election must take place immediately.

Barry, did your mentors Zbigneiw Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger and their fanatical religious controllers manipulate and insert an illegal alien using an alias name into the position of President of the United States to once again flex and demonstrate their power while crushing the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights under their heels of their dress shoes, boots and sandals?

Barry, will you give up your part in the game and scam you, your mentors Zbigneiw Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger and their fanatical religious controllers are running on America in their quest for implementing a New World Order?

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I wonder how long it took to cobble together this laundry list?

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-03-31   13:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: James Deffenbach (#59)

Uh, no, Sherlock. I am asking him to produce a REAL birth certificate. One like I had to produce to get a freakin' passport. Why is he better than I am?

His COLB is accepted as a BC for getting a passport. Exactly the same as you.

Wrong again. What he produced proves nothing since children who were born in foreign countries can get one of those.

Mother fucker please, who do you think you are talking to? We both know that law allowing foreign births to be registered was enacted until 1982, which is 20+ years after he was born.

And we both know they wouldn't list Honolulu as city of birth.

Who are you trying to fool. Keep your replies factual, you aren't dealing with a retard.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   13:37:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: lodwick (#61)

Thanks lodwick. You can be sure the Obamasiah won't answer any of those questions and those who support him blindly and slavishly will say "good for him."

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   13:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Rhino369 (#62)

I SEEM to be dealing with a retard. As I said, I had to produce a real--that is a long-form birth certificate--to get my passport. It had a LOT more information on it than that Photoshop pos that all you Obama lovers claim is legitimate.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   13:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: James Deffenbach (#60)

He!!, if your Obamasiah told you himself that he was born in Kenya you would claim he was being forced to admit it and that it wasn't true.

Let's see.... Kenya in August of 1961 without air conditioning or Hawaii with it's balmy breezes... where would a mother who had the choice rather have her kid? Hmmmmmmmmm I suspect that even by June she was crying uncle and ready to jump the Kenyan ship. Especially when she is going to return to Hawaii soon anyway.

mininggold  posted on  2009-03-31   13:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mininggold (#65)

Without a REAL birth certificate I guess we will never know. Except that I believe his grandmother who said he was born in Kenya. Why would she lie? Does she hate him and want to wreck his gravy train?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   13:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: James Deffenbach. the thread (#63)

Like I said months ago, "I believe his grandma in Kenya."

Keeps it simpler here.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-03-31   13:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: James Deffenbach (#66)

Without a REAL birth certificate I guess we will never know. Except that I believe his grandmother who said he was born in Kenya. Why would she lie? Does she hate him and want to wreck his gravy train?

Why Yes I believe what all impoverished people in third world outpost dictatorships say. They certainly have no reason to lie and their memories are always impeccable.

Unfortunately a sizable proportion of the population in the US prefers a less than forthright candidate. And no court is going to change that. Anyway the Pubs have demonstrated to be no plausible alternative. That is what needs to be changed.

mininggold  posted on  2009-03-31   13:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: James Deffenbach (#64)

I SEEM to be dealing with a retard. As I said, I had to produce a real--that is a long-form birth certificate--to get my passport. It had a LOT more information on it than that Photoshop pos that all you Obama lovers claim is legitimate.

I asked for simple evidence, you bring none. This debate is over til you do. If you bring the evidence I will gladly continue. Til next time.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   14:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Rhino369 (#69)

I asked for simple evidence, you bring none. This debate is over til you do. If you bring the evidence I will gladly continue. Til next time.

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=97803

Not that you will believe that either because you won't believe anything that shows your Obamasiah to be a usurper and a liar. There is no debate, your hero is a commie puppet and a foreign born one at that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   18:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: mininggold (#68)

Why Yes I believe what all impoverished people in third world outpost dictatorships say. They certainly have no reason to lie and their memories are always impeccable.

And his own grandmother (and some of his other relatives) lied about him being born there--WHY? Are people automatically liars because they are poor? Or because they live in the third world? Would his own grandmother want to wreck his gravy train? None of this is any argument for the likes of McCain and Bush. Just because they aren't worth a damn doesn't mean that Obama is because he has a different letter after his name. They are all political whores who have been bought and paid for and amount to nothing more than puppets.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   18:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: lodwick (#67)

Like I said months ago, "I believe his grandma in Kenya."

So do I. What possible reason did she have to lie about it? And why won't Obama produce his long form birth certificate? Why is he any better than you and I and the vast majority of Americans who have to show Unk a real birth certificate to get a passport?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   18:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: James Deffenbach (#70)

A web forum post? Please tell me you are pulling my leg. Seriously.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   19:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Rhino369 (#73)

Just as I have said ever since the Obamasiah got elected, those who think that there is some magic that makes a D better than an R will never accept that their Obamasiah is both a pos and an illegal alien who got into office under false pretenses. I knew you would never accept anything as proof even if your boy told you himself. I will not waste any more time with a rabid Obamabot.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   20:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: James Deffenbach (#74)

Just as I have said ever since the Obamasiah got elected, those who think that there is some magic that makes a D better than an R will never accept that their Obamasiah is both a pos and an illegal alien who got into office under false pretenses.

I didn't vote Obama, nor am I particularly a fan. He is better than McCain and Bush, but thats not saying much. In fact last election I voted republican for house and senate just to balance out the Obama Presidency (I didn't vote for President at all, because even the 3rd party choices sucked).

The only times I voted democrat was to try to oust my republican who voted for amnesty, and to vote for a local democrat who was against funding illegal immigrant welfare.

I'm not a democrat, and I'm not a republican. I'll support the best candidate in the race, or none if they are all bad.

I don't believe the Kenya myth because there is no real evidence. If you had a shred of honesty, with your self and others, you'd know you believe the myth because you want it to be true.

I knew you would never accept anything as proof even if your boy told you himself.

You posted a message board post as proof! In what world is that evidence!

I will not waste any more time with a rabid Obamabot.

I told you upfront I expected evidence. Its your fault you wasted your time.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   20:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Rhino369 (#75)

Its your fault you wasted your time.

That's true. I knew that it didn't matter what evidence I, or anyone else, produced. You refuse to see it and that is your right. It is also your right to be retarded and act like there is nothing wrong with some heinous puppet spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep his actual birth certificate under wraps.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-31   20:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: James Deffenbach (#76)

That's true. I knew that it didn't matter what evidence I, or anyone else, produced.

You should have tried presenting some. I cannot believe you think a message board post is evidence of anything! You are either a fanatic, or stupid.

Rhino369  posted on  2009-03-31   20:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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