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Title: Alex Jones Has A Cow Over Jeff Rense
Source: Jeff Rense's My Space
URL Source: http://www.myspace.com/Jeff_Rense
Published: Mar 31, 2009
Author: Jeff Rense
Post Date: 2009-03-31 02:25:15 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Jeff, Rense, Alex, Jones
Views: 3831
Comments: 139

Following is Jeff Rense's explanation of his discontinuation on GCN following Alex Jones' explosion on the phone with him. I'll let the e-mail he was responding to and his own response tell the story:

Why Jeff is Moving to a New and Better Network

Dear Friends of Liberty and Free Speech... Following is a reply I sent to a long-time listener and thought you should be able to read it, too. It will answer the basic questions many have asked. Thank you, all, for your kindness and support. I am looking forward to working with the new networks which will be making major efforts to present the program on far more stations than the former network ever did. With best regards to all of my good Friends here at MySpace...

Jeff From: Dan > Subject: Jeff Rense fired >Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 2:57 PM Heard a rumor the Jeff Rense was fired from GCN because he posted an article that Alex Jones is a Zionist agent. I called GCN. Ted Andersen is not in today but the first person I talked to confirmed the rumor, and the second person said they couldn't talk about it. This is extremely disheartening for all Americans who value the first amendment. If Ted Andersen does not, then it is our duty to expose him. Dan


Hello Dan... Thank you for your concern. I was not 'fired' because I was never paid by GCN. I was letting them have use of my program in exchange for commercial minutes each hour.

This is all about Jones...who called me at home last Tuesday afternoon just past 1pm and threatened to "destroy" me (and my family) over the well-written story by Brother Nathanael Kapner researching and seeking to understand the reasons why Jones is, and has long been, pro-zionist and an unabashed apologist of zionist Israel and its genocide of Palestinians...and generally steers people away from AIPAC and the Rothschild City of London banking monolith which controls so much of the Western world. The story is available here at Real Jew News. Note how the article cites direct quotes from Jones' own PrisonPlanet message board. I also, as the world knows, always encourage and post legitimate rebuttals to stories.

Matter of fact, when I told Jones to stop threatening me on the phone, he maniacally (no exaggeration) roared in his guttural, Neanderthal voice: "I'm not 'threatening' you...I PROMISE you I will destroy you!!!" Never in my life have I been terrorized like that and it is my personal opinion that such behavior is mentally deranged and unquestionably dangerous.

While this took place, my partner heard him bellowing and raging and screaming on the phone and she was shocked and stunned...as am I. The many stories and allegations about his abuse and threatening of others in this business would seem to be accurate, at least as far as I am concerned. I have filed a formal police report against him for interstate terrorism and threats.

Within an hour or so of his phone call, Ted Anderson emailed me notification of 30 day cancellation of our broadcast agreement. Jones has bragged to me and others that he "owns Ted Anderson's ass"...Ted is a lap dog and did as he was ordered. Jones efforts to censor the news are clear and unquestionable.

Jones ordered that my live programs be blocked last Tuesday and GCN has been running encores the last four nights without so much as the common courtesy of advising me which program would be aired.

After all and in sum, it is tragically clear Jones has an agenda which does not include steadfast support of our Constitution, Freedom of Speech and Inquiry, and Freedom of the Press. As so many others have claimed over the years, he is too often an opportunistic, self-aggrandizing tyrant and hypocrite who seeks to promote himself over all other issues, while clearly serving the wishes of special interest groups. At this point in time, after doing my program for fifteen years, I find that I must regrettably agree with that assessment. William Cooper, indeed, raised some very serious issues about Jones just before he was shot to death.

Please know that I expect to be back doing Live Programs by Monday night on at least two new networks. There will be a formal announcement on the site this weekend.

Thank you, most kindly, for your concern.

Jeff


Note from Moderator: Brother Kapner explored the issue of Jones' wife's religion as it was reflected on Jones' own PrisonPlanet site message board and did so as a journalistic tool to try to understand why he is so pro-Zionist.

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#52. To: Original_Intent (#0)

I have listened to Jones for 10 years. He is not a Zionist. He routinely points out the obvious problems with Zionists running our government and involvement in 9/11. No matter what he said about the Neocons, it wouldn't satisfy the Jew-haters.

Jones is the most highly effective tool against the NWO, providing free documentaries for educating the ignorant masses, police and the military. See The Obama Deception. That is why he is the target of the Feds across the internet and in the real world. Without his efforts, I would hate to see where we would be on that front. He has the full support of Ted Anderson.

Update:

http://www.myspace.com/Jeff_Rense

Regarding the Alex Jones Issue Those who know me and understand the enormous effort involved in presenting news and inquiry, fully-realize I do not threaten people. It is anathema to me and all that I stand for. The issues involved in the current controversy are virtually insignificant to the pressing mandate of confronting and exposing the enemy attacking what's left of our Liberty, our Constitution and our very way of life. I have not gone to court for a restraining order against Mr. Jones, nor have I filed formal charges against anyone. A police report and case number are far different and are employed to simply make formal note of an event. The critical nature of the crisis confronting the patriot community and our Republic requires the full energies of all of us, and I therefore consider the current issue closed. As I always have, I wish the Jones family and all honorable Americans health, wellness and security, just as I do for my own family. Both Mr. Jones and myself have been the recipients of many death threats over the years and I have now received even more to add to that sorry total. In bringing this matter to a close, I have removed my private reply to a longtime listener from my MySpace page. Once again, I do NOT threaten people nor have I ever done so in my entire life. I trust Mr. Jones will join with me in moving ahead together to confront the darkness now enshrouding our planet. There is simply no time for anything else.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-01   2:18:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: ratcat (#52)

No matter what he said about the Neocons, it wouldn't satisfy the Jew-haters.

He said he didn't blame Israel for its attack on the USS Liberty. Instead he blamed Johnson! He may not be a Zionist, but he sure does cover for them.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-01   2:22:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: RickyJ, Original_Intent, HOUNDDAWG (#53)

He said he didn't blame Israel for its attack on the USS Liberty. Instead he blamed Johnson! He may not be a Zionist, but he sure does cover for them.

If it wasn't for Alex Jones, most people would never have heard of the USS Liberty. He interviewed many of the survivors on the air and marketed their documentary. Yes he blamed Johnson. But he also blamed the Israelis.

You Jew-haters aren't even rational while attacking the greatest patriot asset we have.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-02   0:44:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: ratcat (#76)

But he also blamed the Israelis.

No, he said he didn't really blame them. Do you want to listen to your idol saying that?

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-02   14:47:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: RickyJ (#81)

No, he said he didn't really blame them. Do you want to listen to your idol saying that?

I don't have any idols - but I'll listen to any audio of Jone's show. I've listened to Jones talk about the attack on USS Liberty numerous times, with at least two times having the survivors on his show. Never has he said he "didn't blame" the Israelis. It didn't happen. That's an irrational thing to say and he didn't say it.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-03   0:37:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: ratcat (#83) (Edited)

I've listened to Jones talk about the attack on USS Liberty numerous times, with at least two times having the survivors on his show. Never has he said he "didn't blame" the Israelis. It didn't happen. That's an irrational thing to say and he didn't say it.

It did happen, watch and listen.

AlexJones-explains-USS-Liberty

He says very plainly and clearly, "and I don't even blame Israel for this."

Time to eat crow dude.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-03   1:54:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: RickyJ (#86)

The link doesn't work. It brought up winamp and then nothing loaded. I'll assume that he said "and I don't even blame Israel for this." In which case, I regard that as stupid and irrational. No, I don't always agree with what Jones says and he isn't always right. Yes, he makes mistakes. And no one on a radio program is going to please everyone. But Jones has done more to educate people -- mainly by interviewing excellent guests, over the years. And I think we should support his efforts, not work to destroy him, which is what the Feds would dearly love for us to do.

But don't believe everything that Hufschmid says, since he is so full of hate and envy for everyone and everything that that is all that emerges.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-04   1:27:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: ratcat, indietx, hounddawg, rickyj, psusa, original_intent, rotara, christine, wududiz, james deffenbach, twentytwelve (#91)

ratcat said:

No, I don't always agree with what Jones says and he isn't always right. Yes, he makes mistakes. And no one on a radio program is going to please everyone. But Jones has done more to educate people -- mainly by interviewing excellent guests, over the years. And I think we should support his efforts, not work to destroy him, which is what the Feds would dearly love for us to do.

ratcat is absolutely right. and i have said the same thing when this issue first came up a few weeks ago. In the past, the only ones who obsessed so much on anti jones blogs were fringe anti ziojew sites with low readership, who could never hit the mainstream to share anti-new world order information. but now for some reason the obsession has become like a virus for some normal people here and we cant shake it.

IndieTX said:

Why are so many so defensive over this man? It is idol worship as seriously deranged as obamaphiles and dittoheads.

Now we have those who don't like alex's show, or his information, claiming that anyone who supports his work is engaged in 'hero worship'. 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I mean, seriously, WHAT the F-U-C-K has happened to their MINDS, what has happened to this forum?? Eeegads man.

welcome to: the twlight zone

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-04   13:35:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Artisan (#103)

'... 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' ...

Uh... You forgot to say "All Hail"... JK... maybe...

"anti jones blogs were fringe anti ziojew sites with low readership, who could never hit the mainstream to share anti-new world order information. "

Is it because they are anti zionists that they cant hit the "mainstream"?

I dont know how to break this to you, but Zionism is a really really big part of the NWO. Small wonder the al-fucking-mighty "mainstream" eludes them. My guess is they dont even care about "mainstream" audiences. I sure as "hell" dont.

But if you want to go mainstream, I'm sure you can find someone to pay your price. You just have to ignore certain things. Like Jones does.

PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-04   13:50:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: PSUSA (#107)

Is it because they are anti zionists that they cant hit the "mainstream"?

probably, or else they just dont have talent and arent skilled in working the system to their advantage. There are ways of getting coverage without being marginalized.

they dont even care about "mainstream" audiences. I sure as "hell" dont.

I think you do and you should. mainstream simply means the masses of muirkans who are ignorant and need to be woken up MAYDAY, MAYDAY, i know you care about humanity and i thought that was obviously your goal to help alert and awaken the general public. No?

Information wars, war requires tactics. you think jones listeners or those who hear him on coast to coast dont do their research and find out about the evil jews and the role zionism plays? of course they do.

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-04   14:07:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Artisan (#109)

Information wars, war requires tactics. you think jones listeners or those who hear him on coast to coast dont do their research and find out about the evil jews and the role zionism plays? of course they do.

No I dont think they do. Not as a majority. People are lazy and want to be spoonfed.

There seems to be a consensus here that in order to be in the mainstream, you must ignore zionism or risk being attacked by zionists.

Tell me, are zionists that badass? Are they that tough? Fuck no. THey bitch and moan a lot about antisemitism. BFD. But if you are sooooo worried about what these zionists rats think of you, then you will disregard this.

Run from a zionists and you are nothing but a pussy.

.

PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-04   14:16:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: PSUSA (#110)

There seems to be a consensus here that in order to be in the mainstream, you must ignore zionism or risk being attacked by zionists.

I think the zionists need to be exposed for what they do. But often it is our own elected officials who enable and finance them to be able to do it. Fix that and you fix the zionists and their criminal actions. Your energies are directed in the wrong place. We all need to direct our energies to the prosecution of the elected and appointed criminals who run our government.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-04   14:33:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: ratcat (#116)

I think the zionists need to be exposed for what they do. But often it is our own elected officials who enable and finance them to be able to do it. Fix that and you fix the zionists and their criminal actions. Your energies are directed in the wrong place. We all need to direct our energies to the prosecution of the elected and appointed criminals who run our government.

OK, lets get specific here.

Tell me how we can prosecute the "elected and appointed criminals who run our government." without first killing off (literally) their zionist masters, without whose support will not be allowed to be (s)elected.

Lets go from the theoretical to the practical. Right now. Tell me how it can be done.

PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-04   14:49:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: PSUSA (#120)

Yes they are all partners in crime, whether zionist or not. It is very difficult to get attorney generals, grand juries to do their legal duty. The criminals have control of the Dept. of Justice.

Our only option is to take control of the voting process and oust the vast majority of Congress - before they make themselves completely irrelevant.

We can hope that they kill each other, in this financial collapse.

But eventually we have to find some honest people, who can't be bought (like Ron Paul or his associates), to guide us back to Constitutional government.

It doesn't look very hopeful, does it? And many of us, likely including you, have been very pessimistic about this for a long time.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-04   15:00:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#123. To: ratcat (#121)

It doesn't look very hopeful, does it? And many of us, likely including you, have been very pessimistic about this for a long time.

Actually, I am an optimist. But that doesn't mean I will come out of this smelling like a rose. The way I see it, we all stand a good chance of ending up dead.

PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-04 15:22:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: ratcat (#121)

people, who can't be bought (like Ron Paul or his associates

Yeah ron paul who says it's ''ludicrous and preposterous' that government could have been involved in 9/11 and that fema camps don't exist. when he is the best spokesman for liberty and our best elected rep, which I believe he is, then we are in trouble.

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-04 15:42:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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