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Title: Alex Jones Has A Cow Over Jeff Rense
Source: Jeff Rense's My Space
URL Source: http://www.myspace.com/Jeff_Rense
Published: Mar 31, 2009
Author: Jeff Rense
Post Date: 2009-03-31 02:25:15 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Jeff, Rense, Alex, Jones
Views: 4166
Comments: 139

Following is Jeff Rense's explanation of his discontinuation on GCN following Alex Jones' explosion on the phone with him. I'll let the e-mail he was responding to and his own response tell the story:

Why Jeff is Moving to a New and Better Network

Dear Friends of Liberty and Free Speech... Following is a reply I sent to a long-time listener and thought you should be able to read it, too. It will answer the basic questions many have asked. Thank you, all, for your kindness and support. I am looking forward to working with the new networks which will be making major efforts to present the program on far more stations than the former network ever did. With best regards to all of my good Friends here at MySpace...

Jeff From: Dan > Subject: Jeff Rense fired >Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 2:57 PM Heard a rumor the Jeff Rense was fired from GCN because he posted an article that Alex Jones is a Zionist agent. I called GCN. Ted Andersen is not in today but the first person I talked to confirmed the rumor, and the second person said they couldn't talk about it. This is extremely disheartening for all Americans who value the first amendment. If Ted Andersen does not, then it is our duty to expose him. Dan

Hello Dan... Thank you for your concern. I was not 'fired' because I was never paid by GCN. I was letting them have use of my program in exchange for commercial minutes each hour.

This is all about Jones...who called me at home last Tuesday afternoon just past 1pm and threatened to "destroy" me (and my family) over the well-written story by Brother Nathanael Kapner researching and seeking to understand the reasons why Jones is, and has long been, pro-zionist and an unabashed apologist of zionist Israel and its genocide of Palestinians...and generally steers people away from AIPAC and the Rothschild City of London banking monolith which controls so much of the Western world. The story is available here at Real Jew News. Note how the article cites direct quotes from Jones' own PrisonPlanet message board. I also, as the world knows, always encourage and post legitimate rebuttals to stories.

Matter of fact, when I told Jones to stop threatening me on the phone, he maniacally (no exaggeration) roared in his guttural, Neanderthal voice: "I'm not 'threatening' you...I PROMISE you I will destroy you!!!" Never in my life have I been terrorized like that and it is my personal opinion that such behavior is mentally deranged and unquestionably dangerous.

While this took place, my partner heard him bellowing and raging and screaming on the phone and she was shocked and stunned...as am I. The many stories and allegations about his abuse and threatening of others in this business would seem to be accurate, at least as far as I am concerned. I have filed a formal police report against him for interstate terrorism and threats.

Within an hour or so of his phone call, Ted Anderson emailed me notification of 30 day cancellation of our broadcast agreement. Jones has bragged to me and others that he "owns Ted Anderson's ass"...Ted is a lap dog and did as he was ordered. Jones efforts to censor the news are clear and unquestionable.

Jones ordered that my live programs be blocked last Tuesday and GCN has been running encores the last four nights without so much as the common courtesy of advising me which program would be aired.

After all and in sum, it is tragically clear Jones has an agenda which does not include steadfast support of our Constitution, Freedom of Speech and Inquiry, and Freedom of the Press. As so many others have claimed over the years, he is too often an opportunistic, self-aggrandizing tyrant and hypocrite who seeks to promote himself over all other issues, while clearly serving the wishes of special interest groups. At this point in time, after doing my program for fifteen years, I find that I must regrettably agree with that assessment. William Cooper, indeed, raised some very serious issues about Jones just before he was shot to death.

Please know that I expect to be back doing Live Programs by Monday night on at least two new networks. There will be a formal announcement on the site this weekend.

Thank you, most kindly, for your concern.

Jeff

Note from Moderator: Brother Kapner explored the issue of Jones' wife's religion as it was reflected on Jones' own PrisonPlanet site message board and did so as a journalistic tool to try to understand why he is so pro-Zionist.

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#52. To: Original_Intent (#0)

I have listened to Jones for 10 years. He is not a Zionist. He routinely points out the obvious problems with Zionists running our government and involvement in 9/11. No matter what he said about the Neocons, it wouldn't satisfy the Jew-haters.

Jones is the most highly effective tool against the NWO, providing free documentaries for educating the ignorant masses, police and the military. See The Obama Deception. That is why he is the target of the Feds across the internet and in the real world. Without his efforts, I would hate to see where we would be on that front. He has the full support of Ted Anderson.

Update:

http://www.myspace.com/Jeff_Rense

Regarding the Alex Jones Issue Those who know me and understand the enormous effort involved in presenting news and inquiry, fully-realize I do not threaten people. It is anathema to me and all that I stand for. The issues involved in the current controversy are virtually insignificant to the pressing mandate of confronting and exposing the enemy attacking what's left of our Liberty, our Constitution and our very way of life. I have not gone to court for a restraining order against Mr. Jones, nor have I filed formal charges against anyone. A police report and case number are far different and are employed to simply make formal note of an event. The critical nature of the crisis confronting the patriot community and our Republic requires the full energies of all of us, and I therefore consider the current issue closed. As I always have, I wish the Jones family and all honorable Americans health, wellness and security, just as I do for my own family. Both Mr. Jones and myself have been the recipients of many death threats over the years and I have now received even more to add to that sorry total. In bringing this matter to a close, I have removed my private reply to a longtime listener from my MySpace page. Once again, I do NOT threaten people nor have I ever done so in my entire life. I trust Mr. Jones will join with me in moving ahead together to confront the darkness now enshrouding our planet. There is simply no time for anything else.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-01   2:18:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Jones is the most highly effective tool against the NWO, providing free documentaries for educating the ignorant masses, police and the military.

Right, and when the NWO springs the trap his cult followers will run to him only to have him say, "My fellow patriots, we don't have to put up with this! So, right after you surrender your weapons at the nearest police station I want you to order my new book JUST SAY NO TO THE NWO!

Now that the govt has finally stepped over the line we'll win our freedom back because we now have a reason to organize and stand together! It's all explained in this wonderful, hardbound book with full color illustrations and step by step instructions on how to Throw The Rascals Out and how to Stand Up And Be Counted!"

And friends, I promise you that we'll win America back from those mysterious Illuminists without ever firing a shot! Just as Mohandas K. Gandhi proved it can be done without guns! let's show those mysterious Illuminists what we Americans can do when we stand together!

In fact, I want you all to go to your windows and open them and shout, "I'm going to get mad as heck and starting tomorrow I'm not gonna take it anymore!"

Of course non violent civil disobedience was a tactic not a philosophy and it only worked for Gandhi because the British didn't dare drive a train over protesters blocking the rails. That would have resulted in every single British and Colonial soldier (who were greatly outnumbered and still clung to the illusion that they had a moral and legal "right" to rule over the natives) being slaughtered before the week was out.

The US govt and its ancillary forces (police, military cutouts, assassins, cutthroat groupies and millions of useful idiots and snitches) have no such moral limitation on their actions (remember Vicki Weaver? FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi became the darling of the fascist, state worship, law enforcement convention speakers' circuit after he gunned Weaver down) and, the US would nape a peaceful march on Washington if the participants refused to turn around and go home. And, thanks to decades of brain washing and learned helplessness Americans will be beaten before they ever start once certain programmed triggers are activated. (Key words such as "subversive, militia, terrorist, fanatic, Tim McVey," etc, will cause Americans' eyes to roll back in their heads and they'll go into Manchurian Candidate trances, and the following day they'll have the irresistible urge to buy the biggest TV screens they can find....)

I don't know when or where the revolution will begin, but I do know this: it won't be led By Alex Jones with a rifle in his hands. He has no real, air breathing enemies to speak of (with the possible exception of Jeff Rense) so why would he risk his lucrative book business for any reason? In fact Jones will be the first to discredit any true leader by claiming, "That kook is one of those wackos who only blames innocent Jewish persons for everything and he doesn't realize that the real enemy is a bunch of hairy footed hobbits who live in hollow trees, and more importantly their evil Illuminati counterparts such as Lyndon Johnson!"

If you select 100,000 American men at random I'll show you 40,000 govt snitches and perhaps two men who can be relied upon to serve honorably and sacrifice all for posterity and their children. And, those who tune in to AJ for "the truth" have surrendered their critical thinking skills and free will without ever realizing it. They may think that they retain the ability to recognize the moment that Jones reveals himself as an enemy tool, but they don't. If they can't see the truth now then nothing Jones says will want for an explanation/apology just as they're already programmed to do now.

No, I'm sorry to say that if worst comes to worst Alex Jones would print and sell "The Patriot's Cookbook-100 Ways To Cook Mouth Watering Bat Wings Around A Hobo Campfire"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-04-01   3:40:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Jones doesn't have a 'book business.' He's a documentary film maker - Which shows how much you know about his radio show.

And he issues all of the documentaries copywrite-free, so everyone can make as many copies as they want and distribute them, to get the information out to educate people.

No one else does that. It costs him hundreds of thousands of dollars.

And yes, how else can he make money to stay on the air? No one pays him a salary to be on a radio show. He has to obtain sponsors and sell products to pay the costs of broadcasting and pay his employees.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-02   0:53:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Jones doesn't have a 'book business.' He's a documentary film maker - Which shows how much you know about his radio show.

Alex Jones' Dynamic Documentary Films and Powerful Books

Glitter & Greed: The Secret World of the Diamond Cartel (Hardcover)

Citizens' Rule Book (100-Pack) BK-CITRB-100padRegular price: $100.00padSale price: $74.95

The Rise of the Fourth Reich Hardcover: 448 pages

I see that Alex hawks many books that have been in print for years and that HE DIDN'T WRITE, so that certainly qualifies as a "book business" and by no stretch does that qualify as "documentary film making". (Michael Moore is a documentary film maker but he sells books that he wrote)

And, what are DVDs but books for dim witted cult followers who don't read? All charismatic cult leaders use audio, video and personal appearances for mind control because the written word doesn't have the same effect. And to label an hour long video of Jones' bluster, insults and ADL-friendly propaganda a "documentary" is really a stretch of the definition, wouldn't you say? "WATCH AS I DOCUMENT ME YELLING AND HUMPING SOME LOW LEVEL BUREAUCRAT'S LEG, AND THEN TRUST ME, THIS GUY IS THE ENEMY AND I'M REALLY FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT!" (David Gergen wears a toga at Bohemian Grove too? Oh My GAWD! Thank You Alex Jones!)

"Excuse me, Sir, I'm Alex Jones. Perhaps you've heard of me? I videotaped the secret rituals! And, I'm here with this cameraman to tell you that you're an asshole and that I'm a patriotic American! Now WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR YOURSELF? HUH? HUH?"

(And, where does Alex claim that he only sells his ambush interviews "at cost" and that he's really an altruistic patriot? Every free promo he offers pays dividends as advertising just as it does when Arby's or Dairy Queen offer coupons for "free stuff". So when he spends "thousands of dollars for free DVDs" he's doing it to promote himself, and that's gonna cost ya down the road. Bet on it. In fact, I'll bet you've sent him money.

Can't you see that you've been blinded by love for a snake oil salesman who would not tell you the truth if it hurt his lucrative self promotion enterprise? (And fingering the primary beneficiaries of 9/11 and the USS Liberty would definitely be bad for business. *Alex says, "And I don't even blame Larry Silverman, really. I blame the Port Authority because they required Larry to carry insurance on their leased real estate and....."* HAH!)

And, any self styled patriot leader so arrogant as to try and tell me who I should and should not trust (Bro. Nathanial? BAD! Jeff Rense? BADDER! "You don't trust Alex Jones? JEW HATER!" Now that's very revealing.... ) had better be financially transparent because (unlike you) I'm not going to assume that he's any more immune to greed and corruption than the banksters who are my sworn enemy.

Alex Jones gives away DVDs?

Yeah, and banks give away toasters....

We have a member here who has copied and distributed DVDs at no cost to the members and there were no hidden charges or small print or profit motive at all.

Now that is how a true patriot avoids any appearance of impropriety, even though I (and I dare say most others) wouldn't mind paying for educational materials including a modest profit so as to avoid placing a value of zero on another's time and talents.

But, Jones is all about growing his for-profit charismatic cult and never doing any heavy lifting again, all the while taking great pains not to piss off any of the people who make planes crash and cause pandemics of mysterious "suicides". In others words the enemy we're supposed to be fighting.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-04-03   6:21:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sounds like a load of crap, Dawg. I don't even know what you're talking about most of the time, in there. Jones puts his documentaries on the internet for free viewing and allows those who purchase his DVDs to make unlimited copywrite- free copies. He doesn't give away free DVDs. Yes, he sells some books. You were previously referring to books he wrote (which is now out-of-print) and you have changed the subject matter.

Yes, as I said, Jones has to sell something to make a living.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-04   1:33:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And I think we should support his efforts

Why? What are "his efforts"? You imply altruism where there is only corporate capitalism.

not work to destroy him,

Enough silliness. Since when is being critical (which is what all prudent minds do) seen as an attempt to "destroy"? This is demagoguery.

which is what the Feds would dearly love for us to do.

The feds don't need the sheople to do anything. They could take him anytime they pleased. Instead, he is able to scream on his bullhorn and protest unmolested when the common man would be arrested immediately for Disorderly Conduct at the very least. Perhaps it has to do with his measure of income, his protection by the best lawyer whores money can buy, the information he may collect and redistribute to the StateInc in return for protection, and his tax contributions to the god of State every April. Who knows?

But no, I do not see excercising discernment and prudence as an attack. Why are so many so defensive over this man? It is idol worship as seriously deranged as obamaphiles and dittoheads.

IndieTX  posted on  2009-04-04   2:09:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The feds don't need the sheople to do anything. They could take him anytime they pleased. Instead, he is able to scream on his bullhorn and protest unmolested when the common man would be arrested immediately for Disorderly Conduct at the very least.

And the fact that he isn't arrested (in most cases) should tell you all you need to know -- but apparently not. Arresting him could be real counter- productive for the Feds. They are concerned about the potential backlash.

Having said that, he was arrested in New York. He is 'detained' from time-to- time.

As for altruism, I have already detailed this. No one offers their documentary films to the public, copy-write free, to be copied and distributed. No one ever posts their documentary on the internet for free viewing after it cost $110,000 to make it. Alex Jones does this and it costs him hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue. And his documentaries, in case you would ever decide to watch one, attempts to help the public understand the events of our time. And if you were aware of this information, you would/could have gotten out of the stock market, etc. and saved your wealth from confiscation by the 'elite.' And currently, you would be getting out of all dollar denominated assets, since you would better understand what's going on.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-04   12:56:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And the fact that he isn't arrested (in most cases) should tell you all you need to know -- but apparently not. Arresting him could be real counter- productive for the Feds. They are concerned about the potential backlash.

Having said that, he was arrested in New York. He is 'detained' from time-to- time.

Hi, Alex.

I think you should apologize to Jeff on the air. Can you do that Alex? And please don't tell me you are not Alex. Who else would care about a loud mouth Israeli apologetic?

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-04   13:08:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Hi, Alex.

I think you should apologize to Jeff on the air. Can you do that Alex? And please don't tell me you are not Alex. Who else would care about a loud mouth Israeli apologetic?

America is a nation where even obvious frauds and hucksters have millions of fans and many are only too happy to send money to the profiteers and pickpockets.

We're also a nation that never sought justice for the assassinations of John or Robert Kennedy or Dr King because our "leaders" thought that we wouldn't be served by the truth. (The govt admits this much. The implications of this are shocking because it also means that govt has something to hide)

And, of course the "generation in charge" then were people who followed all govt orders, including meatless Fridays and "hate Japs and Krauts" when encouraged to do so. Questioning the govt was something that only the lowest sort (like Julius and Ethyl who were executed and Ezra Pound who spent 13 years in an institution) dared to do.

And, now with 68 percent of the federal budget earmarked for entitlements I see fearful people who know the truth but don't dare speak up lest they lose their share of money, knowing that those who earned it and had it taken from them will never see a dime of it and hoping that it doesn't collapse before the corrupt recipients die and no longer have any need for it.

America is thoroughly compromised and the symbols that we held dear stand for nothing but nostalgia now.

If the people who still have principles can endure (what I fear is in store) then perhaps they'll be able to join with like minded others and start over in some region claimed for themselves someday.

But, any dream of a revolution to restore America's former greatness is a long shot, like betting on a horse that starts from a kneeling position. If for no other reason there are too many people whose brains are mush and they'd have to be ordered about like children and reeducated, and this fact alone would preclude any restoration of the freedoms we once believed America stood for.

I mean, think about it. If your "freedom zone" happened to be peopled with a majority of Pat Robertson or Alex Jones groupies, (or some other charismatic loudmouthed snake oil profiteer) guess who'd be your first president?

Americans know that the official fairie tales about Pearl Harbor, the assassinations, the Gulf Of Tonkin and even 9/11 are bullshit. But, after countless thousands of hours of TV and film "programming" they are fearful of the tragic ends that troublemakers always seem to meet. And, many others are kept in the chute on the way to the shearing room by religious and political leaders, and none are taught to question authority or analyze information or to even see when a self styled rebel leader has the effect of pacifying them.

It's an established fact that the CIA has control over numerous print and TV journalists, but Americans cannot tell us which are 'assets' and not to be believed.

Nor do they really want to know.

And each 'asset' has a certain targeted group that he/she is supposed to saturate with info and demoralize/neutralize, depending on just how much the targets wish to think "outside the box" and regard themselves as independent thinkers.

Americans are silly enough to believe that the "intel community" only controls establishment propaganda (remember the "Black Panther comic book" that was supposed to show little bruthas how to murder police officers that was actually the FBI's COINTEL program? It's alive and well) but how many Americans recognize self styled anti govt "leaders" that are obviously not what they claim to be?

The same Americans that cannot recognize (or are indifferent to) CIA assets on CBS, ABC or FOX obviously wouldn't have a clue that they're being led by a sheep dipped operative posing as a patriot leader. For instance, when Bo Gritz visited Randy Weaver and served as a mediator between Weaver and the government was he a constitutional patriot or still CIA? He was a third-party presidential candidate at the time. Would a true anti govt leader have been allowed to visit Weaver? (ANSWER; NO, they were all either murdered or framed into prison, i.e.Gordon Kahl and Leonard Peltier)

What does that tell us about Bo Gritz, third party candidates and "anti govt documentary film makers"? Are they all what they say they are just because they talk the talk?

Those who say that Randy Weaver "trusts Alex Jones" should be reminded that Weaver should have kicked Bo Gritz in the balls and sent him back to report to his handlers, but Weaver was just a dumb hillbilly who believed a bunch of wild-eyed Jeebus nonsense, and despite ample evidence of our govt's brutal policies he didn't know that his family would likely be murdered if he failed to respond to the federals summons and later arrest warrant after the govt promised to frame him and then made good on it.

In fact the poor man didn't understand that cutting a shotgun barrel a mere fraction of an inch too short for an ATF undercover after he had frustrated the govt that was trying to leverage him into becoming an informant was a fatal mistake. Of course it doesn't matter if Weaver "trusts" Jones because Weaver will never take up arms or even advocate the overthrow of the govt. All the fight that was in him is gone now, and he's probably made his peace with the govt that murdered his wife and son and decided to fight from the speaker's podium while accepting honorariums for his appearances.

I'm guessing that many of these poor lost souls who are "Jonesin' for leadership (or more precisely for infotainment) aren't any better at recognizing "govt assets" than Weaver is. Not that it matters because like Weaver they aren't ever going to do anything that would involve sticking their heads above the trench line anyway.

Several of his supporters have all but said, "So what if Alex Jones is a controlled asset? He's providing us with information!"

And, I suppose that if they never intend to engage the enemy anyway then charisma is very important part of their information stream. Otherwise it could be as boring as reading books by Eustace Mullins, Frédéric Bastiat, Martin Beckman and others whose principles and discipline would immediately alert them to a skunk in their chicken coops.

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