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Title: Alex Jones Has A Cow Over Jeff Rense
Source: Jeff Rense's My Space
URL Source: http://www.myspace.com/Jeff_Rense
Published: Mar 31, 2009
Author: Jeff Rense
Post Date: 2009-03-31 02:25:15 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Jeff, Rense, Alex, Jones
Views: 3774
Comments: 139

Following is Jeff Rense's explanation of his discontinuation on GCN following Alex Jones' explosion on the phone with him. I'll let the e-mail he was responding to and his own response tell the story:

Why Jeff is Moving to a New and Better Network

Dear Friends of Liberty and Free Speech... Following is a reply I sent to a long-time listener and thought you should be able to read it, too. It will answer the basic questions many have asked. Thank you, all, for your kindness and support. I am looking forward to working with the new networks which will be making major efforts to present the program on far more stations than the former network ever did. With best regards to all of my good Friends here at MySpace...

Jeff From: Dan > Subject: Jeff Rense fired >Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 2:57 PM Heard a rumor the Jeff Rense was fired from GCN because he posted an article that Alex Jones is a Zionist agent. I called GCN. Ted Andersen is not in today but the first person I talked to confirmed the rumor, and the second person said they couldn't talk about it. This is extremely disheartening for all Americans who value the first amendment. If Ted Andersen does not, then it is our duty to expose him. Dan


Hello Dan... Thank you for your concern. I was not 'fired' because I was never paid by GCN. I was letting them have use of my program in exchange for commercial minutes each hour.

This is all about Jones...who called me at home last Tuesday afternoon just past 1pm and threatened to "destroy" me (and my family) over the well-written story by Brother Nathanael Kapner researching and seeking to understand the reasons why Jones is, and has long been, pro-zionist and an unabashed apologist of zionist Israel and its genocide of Palestinians...and generally steers people away from AIPAC and the Rothschild City of London banking monolith which controls so much of the Western world. The story is available here at Real Jew News. Note how the article cites direct quotes from Jones' own PrisonPlanet message board. I also, as the world knows, always encourage and post legitimate rebuttals to stories.

Matter of fact, when I told Jones to stop threatening me on the phone, he maniacally (no exaggeration) roared in his guttural, Neanderthal voice: "I'm not 'threatening' you...I PROMISE you I will destroy you!!!" Never in my life have I been terrorized like that and it is my personal opinion that such behavior is mentally deranged and unquestionably dangerous.

While this took place, my partner heard him bellowing and raging and screaming on the phone and she was shocked and stunned...as am I. The many stories and allegations about his abuse and threatening of others in this business would seem to be accurate, at least as far as I am concerned. I have filed a formal police report against him for interstate terrorism and threats.

Within an hour or so of his phone call, Ted Anderson emailed me notification of 30 day cancellation of our broadcast agreement. Jones has bragged to me and others that he "owns Ted Anderson's ass"...Ted is a lap dog and did as he was ordered. Jones efforts to censor the news are clear and unquestionable.

Jones ordered that my live programs be blocked last Tuesday and GCN has been running encores the last four nights without so much as the common courtesy of advising me which program would be aired.

After all and in sum, it is tragically clear Jones has an agenda which does not include steadfast support of our Constitution, Freedom of Speech and Inquiry, and Freedom of the Press. As so many others have claimed over the years, he is too often an opportunistic, self-aggrandizing tyrant and hypocrite who seeks to promote himself over all other issues, while clearly serving the wishes of special interest groups. At this point in time, after doing my program for fifteen years, I find that I must regrettably agree with that assessment. William Cooper, indeed, raised some very serious issues about Jones just before he was shot to death.

Please know that I expect to be back doing Live Programs by Monday night on at least two new networks. There will be a formal announcement on the site this weekend.

Thank you, most kindly, for your concern.

Jeff


Note from Moderator: Brother Kapner explored the issue of Jones' wife's religion as it was reflected on Jones' own PrisonPlanet site message board and did so as a journalistic tool to try to understand why he is so pro-Zionist.

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#2. To: PSUSA (#0)

This is some mighty tasty Crow I'm chewin' on. Care for a bite?

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-31   2:33:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#2) (Edited)

???

If you mean that you were wrong about this, don't worry about it. I never gloat. Because I am wrong sometimes too and I dont appreciate gloating.

PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-31   7:23:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PSUSA (#12) (Edited)

I had noticed the "encore" programs while scanning the 9:00 PM time slot never imagining it was due to a 'spat" between Jones and Rense. At this point it's hard to doubt that a "spat" has taken place and it's easier to see Jones as the one likely to raise his voice to scream threats than Rense, especially if Jones saw the publishing of Brother Nathaniel's article as threatening to his family or a betrayal by Rense or both. (That doesn't make it right, but people have been known to argue). Jones is probably stressed out too, which makes it easier to believe Rense is likely telling the truth.

That being said, I don't know how much Jones had to do with Rense's GCN relationship, but have a gut feeling he has as much pull as anyone could have at GCN. I wouldn't necessarily make any judgments regarding either hosts patriotism based upon this incident. Both men probably have somewhat inflated egos too.

Interstate terrorism is a charge I wouldn't expect to see leveled by anyone (within the freedom movement) that was simply a party to an argument over the phone, nor would I expect a respected host to be removed like Rense was for the same causes, an argument.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Rense should have declined the article simply because he was on the same network as Alex Jones. He could have passed it on to someone else.

All of the above being said, nothing good can come of this and I think everyone involved is wrong to some degree.

As of late, I have had some questions regarding the high volume of CNP members on Jones' program, all of which are committed to support for the State of Israel and some are unsavory to say the least. I'm not saying that I have ever felt that Jones was overly protective of the Israeli State, as he seemed to address all perps equally according to their actual involvment.

noone222  posted on  2009-03-31   8:24:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#17. To: noone222 (#14)

It's not about this, IMO. The personalities involved dont matter, the way I see it. Although it might be responsible for this particular incident, it goes deeper.

It seems that people are being distracted by this clash of personalities.

It's about his (or their) articles lies and distortions, mixed in with the truth. People say "he(they) encourage others to research this for themselves". How many do that? What happens when someone actually does this, and they find out that the article in question is total BS? They get called names, that's what happens.

People have posted things about AJ, but it was seen as a personal attack on him. Even as a COORDINATED attack because of the timing of the release of his Omamessiah movie.

It's not personal. And Rense might be doing the same kinds of things, I don't know.

PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-31 08:42:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: noone222, christine, TwentyTwelve, Rotara, Wudidiz, all (#14)

...That being said, I don't know how much Jones had to do with Rense's GCN relationship, but have a gut feeling he has as much pull as anyone could have at GCN. I wouldn't necessarily make any judgments regarding either hosts patriotism based upon this incident. Both men probably have somewhat inflated egos too.

I still think there is missing data that we don't have. Since I listen to both programs, as time permits, I noted that after JR moved to GCN from Talk Radio Network, that Alex Jones began a regular monthly slot on Jeff's show under the title "Report From Prison Planet" which was a good item as they balanced each other well as Jeff is laid back and thoughtful so acted as a balance wheel for Jones. Jones abruptly canceled after about 3 or 4 months citing too heavy of a work schedule and that he was cutting back. It didn't ring true then or now, and I think there was something going on as far back as about 6 or 8 months ago. I think there was already bad blood but I do not know why (at this point).

...Interstate terrorism is a charge I wouldn't expect to see leveled by anyone (within the freedom movement) that was simply a party to an argument over the phone, nor would I expect a respected host to be removed like Rense was for the same causes, an argument.

This I suspect is because Jones is a heavy hitter and Jeff is fighting back with the available tools. Assuming Jeff's account to be true I think he had reason to be fearful and thus hit back with what was available to bring Jones to heel. If I had an Alex Jones raging semi-incoherently over the phone I think I would be inclined to take whatever measures necessary to force him to cease and desist.

I think Alex Jones reaction is interesting and have not fully analyzed the available data so I am withholding any conclusions at this point, but I do find Jones reaction interesting. Is he being protective of his family or is he trying to keep something from being publicly examined? The latter seems more likely the more I think about it. So, the question of course is what and why? Knowing the what would probably suggest the why.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-31 12:19:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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