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Title: Alex Jones Has A Cow Over Jeff Rense
Source: Jeff Rense's My Space
URL Source: http://www.myspace.com/Jeff_Rense
Published: Mar 31, 2009
Author: Jeff Rense
Post Date: 2009-03-31 02:25:15 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Jeff, Rense, Alex, Jones
Views: 3824
Comments: 139

Following is Jeff Rense's explanation of his discontinuation on GCN following Alex Jones' explosion on the phone with him. I'll let the e-mail he was responding to and his own response tell the story:

Why Jeff is Moving to a New and Better Network

Dear Friends of Liberty and Free Speech... Following is a reply I sent to a long-time listener and thought you should be able to read it, too. It will answer the basic questions many have asked. Thank you, all, for your kindness and support. I am looking forward to working with the new networks which will be making major efforts to present the program on far more stations than the former network ever did. With best regards to all of my good Friends here at MySpace...

Jeff From: Dan > Subject: Jeff Rense fired >Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 2:57 PM Heard a rumor the Jeff Rense was fired from GCN because he posted an article that Alex Jones is a Zionist agent. I called GCN. Ted Andersen is not in today but the first person I talked to confirmed the rumor, and the second person said they couldn't talk about it. This is extremely disheartening for all Americans who value the first amendment. If Ted Andersen does not, then it is our duty to expose him. Dan


Hello Dan... Thank you for your concern. I was not 'fired' because I was never paid by GCN. I was letting them have use of my program in exchange for commercial minutes each hour.

This is all about Jones...who called me at home last Tuesday afternoon just past 1pm and threatened to "destroy" me (and my family) over the well-written story by Brother Nathanael Kapner researching and seeking to understand the reasons why Jones is, and has long been, pro-zionist and an unabashed apologist of zionist Israel and its genocide of Palestinians...and generally steers people away from AIPAC and the Rothschild City of London banking monolith which controls so much of the Western world. The story is available here at Real Jew News. Note how the article cites direct quotes from Jones' own PrisonPlanet message board. I also, as the world knows, always encourage and post legitimate rebuttals to stories.

Matter of fact, when I told Jones to stop threatening me on the phone, he maniacally (no exaggeration) roared in his guttural, Neanderthal voice: "I'm not 'threatening' you...I PROMISE you I will destroy you!!!" Never in my life have I been terrorized like that and it is my personal opinion that such behavior is mentally deranged and unquestionably dangerous.

While this took place, my partner heard him bellowing and raging and screaming on the phone and she was shocked and stunned...as am I. The many stories and allegations about his abuse and threatening of others in this business would seem to be accurate, at least as far as I am concerned. I have filed a formal police report against him for interstate terrorism and threats.

Within an hour or so of his phone call, Ted Anderson emailed me notification of 30 day cancellation of our broadcast agreement. Jones has bragged to me and others that he "owns Ted Anderson's ass"...Ted is a lap dog and did as he was ordered. Jones efforts to censor the news are clear and unquestionable.

Jones ordered that my live programs be blocked last Tuesday and GCN has been running encores the last four nights without so much as the common courtesy of advising me which program would be aired.

After all and in sum, it is tragically clear Jones has an agenda which does not include steadfast support of our Constitution, Freedom of Speech and Inquiry, and Freedom of the Press. As so many others have claimed over the years, he is too often an opportunistic, self-aggrandizing tyrant and hypocrite who seeks to promote himself over all other issues, while clearly serving the wishes of special interest groups. At this point in time, after doing my program for fifteen years, I find that I must regrettably agree with that assessment. William Cooper, indeed, raised some very serious issues about Jones just before he was shot to death.

Please know that I expect to be back doing Live Programs by Monday night on at least two new networks. There will be a formal announcement on the site this weekend.

Thank you, most kindly, for your concern.

Jeff


Note from Moderator: Brother Kapner explored the issue of Jones' wife's religion as it was reflected on Jones' own PrisonPlanet site message board and did so as a journalistic tool to try to understand why he is so pro-Zionist.

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#68. To: Critter (#67)

No, not hardly. No one will call for armed insurrection, it will just happen, IMO. It wont happen on my schedule, or yours.

Now do you want to talk without the fucking idiotic name calling? Your call, and your answer doesn't mean that much to me, but its better to get along than not.

Or if you still think I am a "shill", play nice and set a trap for me. LOL!

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   9:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#66)

OK. Thanks. I did a search for that and found some really perverted S&M practices as one definition...

Somehow I couldn't imagine that is what you meant...

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   9:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: PSUSA (#60)

Information only works if it prepares someone for action. This "we just need to educate people" nonsense will not work. What good is it to be a slave AND know your slavemasters name? Congrats, you are a smart slave!

And you are a twit. Don't you think that if millions of folks are necessary to make a revolutionary change, that it might help if more than two are informed ???

Obummer spent almost a trillion on propaganda to make people "think" they might get a change, didn't he ???

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-04-01   9:43:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: noone222 (#70)

THere are a lot of people buried that should have engraved on their tombstones "He was an educated man. But he was still an idiot".

People that know, know. People that don't, don't give a damn. You can't change that. Change comes from within, not from without.

And I think there are more out there than the "two that are informed".

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   10:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: noone222, PSUSA (#70)

Don't you think that if millions of folks are necessary to make a revolutionary change, that it might help if more than two are informed ???

As soon as a person becomes independent, the social worker is out of a job.

Millions joining is not necessary for the revolution. Millions joining is the revolution.

If lots of people have joined and little has changed, it's not a revolutionary movement, is it?

A truth movement is an oxymoron.

Obummer spent almost a trillion on propaganda to make people "think" they might get a change, didn't he ???

Obummer is not a revolutionary.

A nation based on race has to keep other races out. A government dedicated to a proposition has to keep ideas out.
The 'inner Jew': Tyler Durden with a yarmulka.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-04-01   12:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#72)

As soon as a person becomes independent, the social worker is out of a job.

But some people that claim independence and want freedom have exchanged one form of dependency for another, and one form of slavery for another.

What I find interesting is how certain well-known people (cough cough) lie on occasion, the same way the MSM lies on occasion. None of them lie all the time, just often enough to provoke a desired reaction.

These certain "patriotic" people criticize and expose the MSM at every opportunity, but they wont criticize and expose the lies in the alternative media. Not only do they not criticize and expose them, THEY COVER UP FOR THEM and EXCUSE THEM as being the "lesser of 2 evils", in the exact same way they criticize the political process.

It's all in who's doing it. And this blows my mind that they don't see this. In fact, this criticism and exposure pisses them off mightily to the point that they totally ignore the truth of the matter and start name calling. .

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-01   12:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#72)

Obummer is not a revolutionary.

You spout a ton of ignorance here and truthfully some of it is so whacked I can't even understand your intent, but the above quote from you should be locked in for future reference ... this one simple statement demonstrates the total ignorance that you must be living in.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-04-01   12:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: noone222 (#74)

Hahahaha! You just don't get do you? Obummer is as establishment as can be.

A nation based on race has to keep other races out. A government dedicated to a proposition has to keep ideas out.
The 'inner Jew': Tyler Durden with a yarmulka.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-04-01   19:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: RickyJ, Original_Intent, HOUNDDAWG (#53)

He said he didn't blame Israel for its attack on the USS Liberty. Instead he blamed Johnson! He may not be a Zionist, but he sure does cover for them.

If it wasn't for Alex Jones, most people would never have heard of the USS Liberty. He interviewed many of the survivors on the air and marketed their documentary. Yes he blamed Johnson. But he also blamed the Israelis.

You Jew-haters aren't even rational while attacking the greatest patriot asset we have.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-02   0:44:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Original_Intent (#47)

He always names the top in generalities i.e., the NWO this, the NWO that. The top level of the NWO has names - Rothschild, Rockefeller, Warburg, et. al., ... yet Alex mentions this only obliquely and quickly covers by resorting to the generality. Just a datum, but it is a datum of significance.

He was talking about the Rothschilds today. Were you listening?

Obviously, you don't listen very much or you would know better.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-02   0:47:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: HOUNDDAWG (#56)

Jones doesn't have a 'book business.' He's a documentary film maker - Which shows how much you know about his radio show.

And he issues all of the documentaries copywrite-free, so everyone can make as many copies as they want and distribute them, to get the information out to educate people.

No one else does that. It costs him hundreds of thousands of dollars.

And yes, how else can he make money to stay on the air? No one pays him a salary to be on a radio show. He has to obtain sponsors and sell products to pay the costs of broadcasting and pay his employees.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-02   0:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: ratcat (#76)

If it wasn't for Alex Jones, most people would never have heard of the USS Liberty.

You are delusional.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-02   14:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: ratcat (#78)

No one pays him a salary to be on a radio show.

Not openly, but behind the scenes I think he is paid well by the Zionists.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-02   14:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: ratcat (#76)

But he also blamed the Israelis.

No, he said he didn't really blame them. Do you want to listen to your idol saying that?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-02   14:47:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Original_Intent (#1)

I'm bringing my bull horn over to your house. ;-)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-02   15:26:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: RickyJ (#81)

No, he said he didn't really blame them. Do you want to listen to your idol saying that?

I don't have any idols - but I'll listen to any audio of Jone's show. I've listened to Jones talk about the attack on USS Liberty numerous times, with at least two times having the survivors on his show. Never has he said he "didn't blame" the Israelis. It didn't happen. That's an irrational thing to say and he didn't say it.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-03   0:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: ratcat (#76)

If it wasn't for Alex Jones, most people would never have heard of the USS Liberty. He interviewed many of the survivors on the air and marketed their documentary. Yes he blamed Johnson. But he also blamed the Israelis.

You Jew-haters aren't even rational while attacking the greatest patriot asset we have.

And who hates Jews?

I am not a big fan of Zionism (the creation of the Rothschild Banksters) but that has little to do with Jews other than they are used as cover for the activities of the Zionists - who are mainly communists/atheists and/or something darker.

My questions revolve more around Alex's avoidance of the criminality of the Rothschild Clan, its ties to Israel, and Israel as a criminal kleptocracy under the Rothschild banner.

The question was raised originally by Brother Nathaniel Kappner who asked some questions about Alex's softballing the Zionist State. Jeff Rense linked to that story - which he has done with a number of Brother Nathanael's articles. I frequently find Brother Nathanael a bit "over the top" but Alex's reaction was really quite interesting and disproportionate. It was the reaction of someone who has been withholding something and has come close to having it exposed. What that is I don't know but the reaction is what interested me because it is an indicator. The virulence of Alex's attack on Jeff has left me wondering. I don't have enough data to reach a conclusion, but what I have been able to read and deduce convinces me that there is something lying underneath this "incident" which I cannot name and do not have enough threads to deduce.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-03   0:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: ratcat (#77)

He always names the top in generalities i.e., the NWO this, the NWO that. The top level of the NWO has names - Rothschild, Rockefeller, Warburg, et. al., ... yet Alex mentions this only obliquely and quickly covers by resorting to the generality. Just a datum, but it is a datum of significance.

He was talking about the Rothschilds today. Were you listening?

Obviously, you don't listen very much or you would know better.

Actually I listen to him quite frequently which is why I floated those tentative thoughts. I am drawing no conclusions as I don't have enough data.

However, I do stand by my comment in that he talks a lot in generalities of this monolith called the NWO/Illuminati. These are run by people, peple with names an d identities., and while he does mention some names he seems to spend more time talking about "NWO" as a generality than Nathaniel Rothschild or tying it together. He provides the context but no the conclusion. That is what catches my eye. However, I'm still chewing on it.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-03   1:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: ratcat (#83) (Edited)

I've listened to Jones talk about the attack on USS Liberty numerous times, with at least two times having the survivors on his show. Never has he said he "didn't blame" the Israelis. It didn't happen. That's an irrational thing to say and he didn't say it.

It did happen, watch and listen.

AlexJones-explains-USS-Liberty

He says very plainly and clearly, "and I don't even blame Israel for this."

Time to eat crow dude.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-03   1:54:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: RickyJ, ratcat. (#86)

Dudette.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-03   2:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: ratcat, TwentyTwelve, IndieTX, christine, Jethro Tull, Lady X, bluegrass, RickyJ, Original_Intent, farmfriend, Prefrontal Vortex, critter, PSUSA (#78) (Edited)

Jones doesn't have a 'book business.' He's a documentary film maker - Which shows how much you know about his radio show.

Alex Jones' Dynamic Documentary Films and Powerful Books

Glitter & Greed: The Secret World of the Diamond Cartel (Hardcover)

Citizens' Rule Book (100-Pack) BK-CITRB-100padRegular price: $100.00padSale price: $74.95

The Rise of the Fourth Reich Hardcover: 448 pages

I see that Alex hawks many books that have been in print for years and that HE DIDN'T WRITE, so that certainly qualifies as a "book business" and by no stretch does that qualify as "documentary film making". (Michael Moore is a documentary film maker but he sells books that he wrote)

And, what are DVDs but books for dim witted cult followers who don't read? All charismatic cult leaders use audio, video and personal appearances for mind control because the written word doesn't have the same effect. And to label an hour long video of Jones' bluster, insults and ADL-friendly propaganda a "documentary" is really a stretch of the definition, wouldn't you say? "WATCH AS I DOCUMENT ME YELLING AND HUMPING SOME LOW LEVEL BUREAUCRAT'S LEG, AND THEN TRUST ME, THIS GUY IS THE ENEMY AND I'M REALLY FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT!" (David Gergen wears a toga at Bohemian Grove too? Oh My GAWD! Thank You Alex Jones!)

"Excuse me, Sir, I'm Alex Jones. Perhaps you've heard of me? I videotaped the secret rituals! And, I'm here with this cameraman to tell you that you're an asshole and that I'm a patriotic American! Now WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR YOURSELF? HUH? HUH?"

(And, where does Alex claim that he only sells his ambush interviews "at cost" and that he's really an altruistic patriot? Every free promo he offers pays dividends as advertising just as it does when Arby's or Dairy Queen offer coupons for "free stuff". So when he spends "thousands of dollars for free DVDs" he's doing it to promote himself, and that's gonna cost ya down the road. Bet on it. In fact, I'll bet you've sent him money.

Can't you see that you've been blinded by love for a snake oil salesman who would not tell you the truth if it hurt his lucrative self promotion enterprise? (And fingering the primary beneficiaries of 9/11 and the USS Liberty would definitely be bad for business. *Alex says, "And I don't even blame Larry Silverman, really. I blame the Port Authority because they required Larry to carry insurance on their leased real estate and....."* HAH!)

And, any self styled patriot leader so arrogant as to try and tell me who I should and should not trust (Bro. Nathanial? BAD! Jeff Rense? BADDER! "You don't trust Alex Jones? JEW HATER!" Now that's very revealing.... ) had better be financially transparent because (unlike you) I'm not going to assume that he's any more immune to greed and corruption than the banksters who are my sworn enemy.

Alex Jones gives away DVDs?

Yeah, and banks give away toasters....

We have a member here who has copied and distributed DVDs at no cost to the members and there were no hidden charges or small print or profit motive at all.

Now that is how a true patriot avoids any appearance of impropriety, even though I (and I dare say most others) wouldn't mind paying for educational materials including a modest profit so as to avoid placing a value of zero on another's time and talents.

But, Jones is all about growing his for-profit charismatic cult and never doing any heavy lifting again, all the while taking great pains not to piss off any of the people who make planes crash and cause pandemics of mysterious "suicides". In others words the enemy we're supposed to be fighting.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-04-03   6:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: HOUNDDAWG (#88)

Aw c'mon dawg. AJ's a member in good standing of Gush Eminem.

A nation based on race has to keep other races out. A government dedicated to a proposition has to keep ideas out.
The 'inner Jew': Tyler Durden with a yarmulka.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-04-03   11:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Original_Intent (#84)

Jeff Rense linked to that story - which he has done with a number of Brother Nathanael's articles. I frequently find Brother Nathanael a bit "over the top" but Alex's reaction was really quite interesting and disproportionate.

If you listened all/most the time, you would have the answer. Jones frequently complains about being attacked by other people in the same business. Yes, Jeff Rense is in the same business, on the same network - and apparently has enough time on his hands to make an issue of what Jones does or doesn't discuss in enough frequency or detail to his satisfaction.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-04   1:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: RickyJ (#86)

The link doesn't work. It brought up winamp and then nothing loaded. I'll assume that he said "and I don't even blame Israel for this." In which case, I regard that as stupid and irrational. No, I don't always agree with what Jones says and he isn't always right. Yes, he makes mistakes. And no one on a radio program is going to please everyone. But Jones has done more to educate people -- mainly by interviewing excellent guests, over the years. And I think we should support his efforts, not work to destroy him, which is what the Feds would dearly love for us to do.

But don't believe everything that Hufschmid says, since he is so full of hate and envy for everyone and everything that that is all that emerges.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-04   1:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: HOUNDDAWG (#88)

Sounds like a load of crap, Dawg. I don't even know what you're talking about most of the time, in there. Jones puts his documentaries on the internet for free viewing and allows those who purchase his DVDs to make unlimited copywrite- free copies. He doesn't give away free DVDs. Yes, he sells some books. You were previously referring to books he wrote (which is now out-of-print) and you have changed the subject matter.

Yes, as I said, Jones has to sell something to make a living.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-04   1:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: ratcat, hounddawg, all, psusa (#92)

And I think we should support his efforts

Why? What are "his efforts"? You imply altruism where there is only corporate capitalism.

not work to destroy him,

Enough silliness. Since when is being critical (which is what all prudent minds do) seen as an attempt to "destroy"? This is demagoguery.

which is what the Feds would dearly love for us to do.

The feds don't need the sheople to do anything. They could take him anytime they pleased. Instead, he is able to scream on his bullhorn and protest unmolested when the common man would be arrested immediately for Disorderly Conduct at the very least. Perhaps it has to do with his measure of income, his protection by the best lawyer whores money can buy, the information he may collect and redistribute to the StateInc in return for protection, and his tax contributions to the god of State every April. Who knows?

But no, I do not see excercising discernment and prudence as an attack. Why are so many so defensive over this man? It is idol worship as seriously deranged as obamaphiles and dittoheads.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.

IndieTX  posted on  2009-04-04   2:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: IndieTX (#93)

You imply altruism where there is only corporate capitalism.

So anyone who makes an independent living is a bad guy now?


Beware!
This guy may be prowling 4um:

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Critter  posted on  2009-04-04   7:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: IndieTX, All (#93)

It is idol worship as seriously deranged as obamaphiles and dittoheads.

SHILL –noun

1. a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, etc.

2. a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reas ons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.

But those that disagree are shills... LOL! Hypocrites are not usually so amusing...

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-04   7:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: ratcat (#91)

The link doesn't work. It brought up winamp and then nothing loaded

It is a WMV file. You need Windows Media Player.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-04   8:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Critter (#94)

That's not what I said. You have a comprehension problem.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.

IndieTX  posted on  2009-04-04   12:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: IndieTX (#93)

They could take him anytime they pleased. Instead, he is able to scream on his bullhorn and protest unmolested when the common man would be arrested immediately for Disorderly Conduct at the very least.

Actually, I think he was arrested for something like that in New York. Happened outside the Fox studios iirc.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-04   12:46:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: IndieTX (#93)

The feds don't need the sheople to do anything. They could take him anytime they pleased. Instead, he is able to scream on his bullhorn and protest unmolested when the common man would be arrested immediately for Disorderly Conduct at the very least.

And the fact that he isn't arrested (in most cases) should tell you all you need to know -- but apparently not. Arresting him could be real counter- productive for the Feds. They are concerned about the potential backlash.

Having said that, he was arrested in New York. He is 'detained' from time-to- time.

As for altruism, I have already detailed this. No one offers their documentary films to the public, copy-write free, to be copied and distributed. No one ever posts their documentary on the internet for free viewing after it cost $110,000 to make it. Alex Jones does this and it costs him hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue. And his documentaries, in case you would ever decide to watch one, attempts to help the public understand the events of our time. And if you were aware of this information, you would/could have gotten out of the stock market, etc. and saved your wealth from confiscation by the 'elite.' And currently, you would be getting out of all dollar denominated assets, since you would better understand what's going on.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-04   12:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: James Deffenbach (#98)

That's right. But I think he was just 'detained' and they dropped the charges. But I could be wrong about that. He was also detained in the Canadian airport to keep him away from the Bilderberg meeting. He would have been detained longer, except that they called in the Canadian press who (unlike their American whores) swamped the airport questioning what was going on.

ratcat  posted on  2009-04-04   13:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: ratcat (#99)

And the fact that he isn't arrested (in most cases) should tell you all you need to know -- but apparently not. Arresting him could be real counter- productive for the Feds. They are concerned about the potential backlash.

Having said that, he was arrested in New York. He is 'detained' from time-to- time.

Hi, Alex.

I think you should apologize to Jeff on the air. Can you do that Alex? And please don't tell me you are not Alex. Who else would care about a loud mouth Israeli apologetic?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-04   13:08:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: ratcat (#91)

The link doesn't work

The link works fine. I can't help it you can't play WMV files Alex. Ask Paul to help you out.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-04   13:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: ratcat, indietx, hounddawg, rickyj, psusa, original_intent, rotara, christine, wududiz, james deffenbach, twentytwelve (#91)

ratcat said:

No, I don't always agree with what Jones says and he isn't always right. Yes, he makes mistakes. And no one on a radio program is going to please everyone. But Jones has done more to educate people -- mainly by interviewing excellent guests, over the years. And I think we should support his efforts, not work to destroy him, which is what the Feds would dearly love for us to do.

ratcat is absolutely right. and i have said the same thing when this issue first came up a few weeks ago. In the past, the only ones who obsessed so much on anti jones blogs were fringe anti ziojew sites with low readership, who could never hit the mainstream to share anti-new world order information. but now for some reason the obsession has become like a virus for some normal people here and we cant shake it.

IndieTX said:

Why are so many so defensive over this man? It is idol worship as seriously deranged as obamaphiles and dittoheads.

Now we have those who don't like alex's show, or his information, claiming that anyone who supports his work is engaged in 'hero worship'. While they, instead of fighting the satan worshiping police state side, obsess on infowars as if they have literal obsessive-compulsive disorder or a hiccup that will not go away. mind--obsessed and tormented every day on 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex 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I mean, seriously, WHAT the F-U-C-K has happened to their MINDS, what has happened to this forum?? Eeegads man.

welcome to: the twlight zone

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-04   13:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: ratcat (#100)

He was also detained in the Canadian airport to keep him away from the Bilderberg meeting. He would have been detained longer, except that they called in the Canadian press who (unlike their American whores) swamped the airport questioning what was going on.

I hadn't heard about that. Good for the Canadian reporters.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-04   13:38:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Artisan (#103) (Edited)

Anyone that says they don't blame Israel for the USS Liberty attack, which no on denies they did do, while blaming Johnson, of which there is NO PROOF he had any thing whatsoever to do with it, is a shill for Israel. Anyone that is a shill for Israel, is a shill for a terrorist state.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-04   13:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Artisan (#103)

Golden Earring is a Dutch rock band, founded in 1961 in The Hague as the Golden Earrings (the 's' was dropped in 1969). They had international chart success with the songs "Eight Miles High" in 1969, "Radar Love" in 1973, "Twilight Zone" in 1982, and "When The Lady Smiles" in 1984. In their home country, they had over 40 hits and made over 30 gold and platinum albums. Current members of Golden Earring are Barry Hay (vocals, guitar, flute and saxophone, member since 1968), George Kooymans (vocals and guitar, founder of band), Rinus Gerritsen (bass and keyboard, founding member), and Cesar Zuiderwijk (drums and percussion, member since 1970). Golden Earring have sold millions of albums worldwide, and they are the oldest rock band in the world that are still performing today. 2009 marks the return of the band to the UK and the release of a new studio album.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-04   13:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Artisan (#103)

'... 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' 'alex jones,' ...

Uh... You forgot to say "All Hail"... JK... maybe...

"anti jones blogs were fringe anti ziojew sites with low readership, who could never hit the mainstream to share anti-new world order information. "

Is it because they are anti zionists that they cant hit the "mainstream"?

I dont know how to break this to you, but Zionism is a really really big part of the NWO. Small wonder the al-fucking-mighty "mainstream" eludes them. My guess is they dont even care about "mainstream" audiences. I sure as "hell" dont.

But if you want to go mainstream, I'm sure you can find someone to pay your price. You just have to ignore certain things. Like Jones does.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-04   13:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: RickyJ (#105)

In terrorstorm he covers the uss liberty, he's had all the witnesses on. and johnson said he wants the ship at the _ _ bottom, which shows complicity with the jews. if anyone reads my posts they will see i dont give a shit what the jews thinka nd i am anti zionist. i am also very impressed with Bishop Richard Williamson, who the Pope recently reinstated after he was excommunicated for a decade. Williamson is demonized in the press ; they allege he 'denies the holocaust', that is a lie, he simply cites credible researchg that questions the 'six million gassed number'. Williamson is also very elequent in stating that 911 was an inside job.

That is very very big news, for a sitting Catholic bishop to preech on that. but to my knowledge Jones has never been featured on infowars or interviewed on alex's show. I could be wrong, but i havent seen or heard it,. I have heard a caller into alex show mention williamson, she was a traditionalist catholic and member of society of pius X. That fact was not the point of her call though, but when she mentioned williamson in passing jones did not reply to that.

i just posted something few days ago about how the Pope in the past announced that jews should never be allowed to hold public office. Lol!! there is A LOT of anti zionist stuff put out by the church; but instead of finding it interesting or even amusing, which it was, we had the rabid anti-Catholicism posts come about, completely ignoring the historical significance of such bold pronoucements. oh well. I thought it was interesting anyway.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-04   14:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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