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Title: Jets Full Of Nurses And Teachers Pour Into US
Source: rense.com
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general67/jetsfullofnurses.htm
Published: Aug 6, 2005
Author: various
Post Date: 2005-08-06 16:49:49 by Grumble Jones
Keywords: Teachers, Nurses, Jets
Views: 269
Comments: 34

I got this tip from a friend.

Nurses....say bye-bye to your job because cheaper labor is being imported to replace YOU.

Massive US Recruitment Of Indian Nurses By Babu Ghanta India Daily 8-5-5

It is a new trend that will miniscule all other trends seen before.

The overseas placement agencies claim that there is an estimated shortage of nearly 2.5 lakh nurses in hospitals across the US and hence they are now wooing qualified Indian nurses to relocate to the land of the greenback.

The nurses can make $5000 per month and up. There are companies that bring in Indian nurses with green card.

The aging baby boomers of America provide the bonanza of jobs for the Indian nurse. According to sources this is just the tip of the iceberg. The actual wave in 2010 will be so big that no one really can imagine the same now.

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/3951.asp

Do you see the pattern yet?

Software Development - gone Engineering - gone Teaching - going Nursing - going Doctors and other practioners - soon to be going Unskilled jobs - gone....given to illegal aliens.

The United States is being conquered without a shot being fired.

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Job Destruction Newsletter By Rob Sanchez 8-3-5

School districts all over the United States are actively recruiting foreign teachers for our schools. In this case, Filipino math and science teachers on H-1B visas have just arrived in Nevada.

I have talked to many engineers and programmers that have been unable to get teaching jobs in math and science, despite the fact that they went back to school to get education degrees. Despite the growing number of desperate unemployed high-tech workers states like Nevada still claim there is a shortage of these types of teachers. This is just another cruel insult to the growing number of highly-educated professionals that can't find meaningful work.

51 New Clark County Teachers Arrive From Phillipines By Antonio Planas Las Vegas Review-Journal 8-3-5

Elvira Ocamia had never traveled outside her native country before making the 7,000-mile trip from the Philippines to Las Vegas.

Ocamia, 56, is one of 51 teachers who will be working under a temporary visa in the Clark County School District for the next three years.

Most of those teachers landed at McCarran International Airport on Sunday, leaving behind family and friends.

Ocamia is no exception. She will be without her eight children and husband of 36 years.

"I have a great emotional attachment to my family," Ocamia said while attending an orientation event Monday with her colleagues at Nova Southeastern University. "But I made up my mind to be strong and overcome it."

The Filipino teachers were recruited in February to fill vacancies in high-need areas such as math, science and special education. The recruitment of foreign teachers will only put a slight dent in the district's teacher shortage, which currently is more than 400 teachers who will have to be replaced by substitutes.

JoAnne Schlekewy, director of licensed personnel in charge of recruiting, said the teachers from the Philippines will be paid according to the district's salary scale, with instructors who have multiple degrees and advanced college credits making more than those with a bachelor's degree.

Ocamia said she will earn about $36,000 annually.

She has a master's degree in special education and a doctorate in educational management. She will be teaching English to special education students at Clark High School.

In her hometown of Dipolog -- a rural community of rice and coconut farmers -- Ocamia earned about $4,000 a year as principal of a school with 700 students.

She said her community was impoverished with class sizes up to 60 students and only one book available for every five students.

"Students had to sit on dilapidated desks. We only had one computer in the school," Ocamia said.

Other Filipino teachers said they worked in similar conditions.

Elmer Potes, 34, taught high school math in Manila, the nation's capital.

Potes said his school also was overcrowded, with class sizes pushing 60 students and not enough classrooms to accommodate them.

Potes said he will earn the district's starting salary of just more than $28,000. He earned about $4,000 a year in Manila.

Potes, who will teach math at Eldorado High School, said one of his biggest concerns is dealing with unruly students.

"I have to be tough," Potes said. "There has to be a mutual respect. They have to know that I'm the teacher and they're the students."

Potes also said he's afraid that his broken English and thick accent will be difficult for some students to understand.

But he said he will easily adapt to some aspects of U.S. culture.

"I love American food," he said. "I love pizza. I love hamburgers. We have McDonald's in the Philippines."

Other Filipinos said they didn't know much about Las Vegas except what they've seen on television and the Internet.

"This is a city of entertainment and fun," said Maria Opeqa. "This is a city where boxing aficionados go."

Opeqa was an associate professor of biology in her hometown.

She has a bachelor's degree in plant pathology, and a master's degree in educational technology.

Opeqa also said she completed a professional program to teach special education students.

She will begin teaching at Mack Middle School in late August.

Schlekewy said that some teachers will live with family members. Others will be housed by Las Vegas Filipinos and some will be put up in apartments.

"The most rewarding thing is to be able to see them here," she said. "It's exciting when you see their excitement."

Potes said he and other Filipino teachers must be up for the task.

"We have to make a very good impression. ... I have to make a very good impression," he said. "This is for my children."

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#1. To: Grumble Jones (#0)

Do you see the pattern yet?

Software Development - gone Engineering - gone Teaching - going Nursing - going Doctors and other practioners - soon to be going Unskilled jobs - gone....given to illegal aliens.

The United States is being conquered without a shot being fired.

One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?

robin  posted on  2005-08-06   16:57:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Grumble Jones (#0)

certainly from our experience in software / engineering types in the 1990's there was a huge amount of disinformatin and lies told to justify bringing in the H1-b's. Then the H1-b's were selling their labor for 6 years, they were basically kept slaves over that time. What employer wouldn't prefer a kept slave who can't change jobs over free labor. So, the H1-b's had an advantage in the marketplace given to them by our government.

I'd say the same is likely true for the nurses and others - that lots of lies will be told and have been told to justify bringing them in. I know some nurses who work for pretty low wages, a lot lower than what is in this article.

Remember this, in 2000 70% of the American adults 21-65 had jobs. Now it is 65%. We no longer prefer market based systems for finding our labor. We flood the market with people in order to force wages down. At the same time, if you look closely at Bush' tax policies, he really is lowering taxes greatly for the rich. Bush has proposed 0% tax on investment income. Bush has proposed raising social security taxes from 16 to 21%. At the same time Bush and the republicans take 25% of all social security taxes paid into the system and spend it on something other than social security. Then they're saying they will cut social security payments outright by something like one third.

You rarely hear democrats on tv describing it as it is. But the reality is that there's a massive class warfare going on against the poor and middle class in our country.

Red Jones  posted on  2005-08-06   17:18:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Grumble Jones (#0)

Nurses....say bye-bye to your job because cheaper labor is being imported to replace YOU.

That's not true. If anyone is looking to hire foreign nurses, it's because there is a shortage of American nurses. Young American women (and men) just aren't choosing nursing as a profession. Ask any nursing school administrator - they're desperate for students, and just as desperate to find qualified nursing instructors for the students they do have. Ask any hospital administrator, who tries to avoid ordering mandatory overtime for nurses because of staffing shortfalls. Lose the paranoia and xenophobia, already. The foreign nurses aren't going to REPLACE anyone - they will fill vacant positions.

DeepPockets  posted on  2005-08-06   17:54:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: DeepPockets (#3)

Ask any nursing school administrator...

I did, in Colorado. The nursing and radiology fields are the most competive and hardest programs to get into in college with way more applicants than spaces in class.

The foreign nurses aren't going to REPLACE anyone - they will fill vacant positions.

Vacant positions = I asked the multi-millionare Doctor to put my pay scale above minimum wage and now I get to spend my last two weeks training my replacement.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2005-08-06   18:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Red Jones (#2)

Bush has proposed raising social security taxes from 16 to 21%. At the same time Bush and the republicans take 25% of all social security taxes paid into the system and spend it on something other than social security. Then they're saying they will cut social security payments outright by something like one third.

This is not good.

Diana  posted on  2005-08-07   3:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: DeepPockets (#3)

The foreign nurses aren't going to REPLACE anyone - they will fill vacant positions.

And why are those positions vacant in the first place? Because the pay sucks for the work being performed as determined by American workers. It’s simple supply and demand at work. The mega health corporations need nurses; they just won't supply Americans with enough incentive to do the job. Hence they bring in foreigners to artificially suppress American wages. So yes, these foreign nurses are replacing the American market demanded price for Americans to do this type of work. There is not a shortage of workers in America; there is a shortage of employers willing to pay them a wage they are demanding. George Bush, who claims that there are jobs that Americans just won't do, is a liar and an unpatriotic a-hole. Many American employers are unwilling to buy what the American worker is selling, their labor. They want cheap labor that they can more easily exploit, hence they move factories overseas, or import cheap labor while falsely claiming there is a shortage of workers.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2005-08-07   5:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: DeepPockets (#3)

you know, you're a complete idiot. The free market system has served our nation well for a long time. We should not go fascist because of some greedy people's insatiable desires for money.

I know for a fact that nurses in a prominent hospital in Tucson only get paid 400-450 a week BEFORE taxes. I know women right here where I live who would strongly like to do either the unlicensed nurse work in nursing homes or work in hospitals and have a very hard time making a career of it.

YOu're saying their opportunities should be taken away. And you're saying we need indentured servants in our economy. Indentured servant institution is what the big companies got the king of england to give us as a pre-cursor to the slavery institution. It is a form of slavery. You advocate that kept slaves be brought here and their existence here be tied to their jobs. So that the 'employer' will in essence own them.

You are a sick un-american idiot. Why don't you leave our country. This is a free country. It was made for the americans to be sovereign here. Just 5 years ago 70% of the adult americans had jobs. Today 65% do. And you think this percentage is too high, and you think this because some greedy SOB has convinced you of this.

Red Jones  posted on  2005-08-07   6:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Red Jones (#2)

Bush has proposed 0% tax on investment income. Bush has proposed raising social security taxes from 16 to 21%. At the same time Bush and the republicans take 25% of all social security taxes paid into the system and spend it on something other than social security. Then they're saying they will cut social security payments outright by something like one third.

All sounds good except for the rise in the payroll tax.

Tauzero  posted on  2005-08-07   9:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: RickyJ (#6)

Because the pay sucks for the work being performed as determined by American workers. It’s simple supply and demand at work.

The pay is good. The working conditions, however, have become poor.

Tauzero  posted on  2005-08-07   9:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Red Jones, DeepPockets (#7)

you know, you're a complete idiot.

Stop being nice to the neocon turd guzzler.

I know for a fact that nurses in a prominent hospital in Tucson only get paid 400-450 a week BEFORE taxes.

That's what I hear too.


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-08-07   9:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Red Jones (#2)

Then they're saying they will cut social security payments outright by something like one third.

They already have by intentionally cooking the CPI data and thereby robbing recipients of mandated increases. Thieves and liars are in charge.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2005-08-07   9:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Arete (#11)

intentionally cooking the CPI data

It's always interesting to note what the don't count when calculating the CPI.


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-08-07   9:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Red Jones, DeepPockets (#7)

Give that back-stabbing traitor HELL, Red!!

Lady X  posted on  2005-08-07   9:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lady X, Red Jones, Flintlock, RickyJ, Diana, Pissed Off Janitor (#13)

Did you notice this;

Lose the paranoia and xenophobia, already.

They always manage to drag out that same old and tired line,everytime.

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-08-07   9:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Grumble Jones (#14)

Yeah, they always use that one, and the ever popular--They're doing jobs Americans won't do..

Lady X  posted on  2005-08-07   10:02:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Grumble Jones (#14)

Lose the paranoia and xenophobia, already.

I wonder what term we could come up for those who are the traitors i.e. proponents of this crap? The label makers keep dragging out this BS and of course they've pretty much worn this one out.

"Every good Christian ought to kick [Jerry] Falwell right in the ass." ---Barry Goldwater

Zipporah  posted on  2005-08-07   10:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Grumble Jones (#14)

They always manage to drag out that same old and tired line,everytime.

Like the traitors and vermin they are.


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-08-07   10:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Flintlock (#12)

It's always interesting to note what the[y] don't count when calculating the CPI.

Well, who needs stuff like gasoline, food, electricity, natural gas, water, and clothes anyway?

As long as we can survive on computers and TeeVees, everything will be A-OK!

If a man has nothing that he is willing to die for, then he has nothing worth living for.

Esso  posted on  2005-08-07   10:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Grumble Jones (#0)

"Today's transient global economic relations are a product of very special transient circumstances, namely relative world peace and absolutely reliable supplies of cheap energy. Subtract either of these elements from the equation and you will see globalisation evaporate so quickly it will suck the air out of your lungs. It is significant that none of the cheerleaders for globalisation takes this equation into account. In fact, the American power elite is sleepwalking into a crisis so severe that the blowback may put both major political parties out of business."

Globalisation is an anomaly and its time is running out

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2005-08-07   10:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Esso (#18)

Well, who needs stuff like gasoline, food, electricity, natural gas, water, and clothes anyway?

When I got out of school in the early '70s I worked at a mom and pop grocery store and I made minimum wage of $2.00 an hour. I rang up so many staples that I never forgot what the prices where so I decided a few days ago to do a little comparison.

Using minimum wage then and what it is currently(for comparison), I came up with the following figures on how much you could buy with a weeks pay.

In '72 you could buy 275 loaves of bread.....today it's 129

Milk....in '72..89 gallons........Now...62 gallons.

Gas....'72....228 gallons..........now....89 gallons.

Levis jeans....'72...about 20 pairs......now....9 if they're on sale.

Gold....'72 from 1 ounce to 1 1/2 depending on market conditions. now...1/2 ounce.

It obvious that basic survival commodity prices have soared. But as you said...TVs are cheap...if we could only eat them.

In '72 you could also rent an apt. or half of a double for a weeks pay....try that now.

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-08-07   10:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Grumble Jones, Pissed Off Janitor (#14)

I think PO'd Janitor's post and subsequent posts by others proved DP's hypothesis wrong.

christine  posted on  2005-08-07   10:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Arete (#19)

that the blowback may put both major political parties out of business."

They'll just merge and they'll tell the sheeple..."We are stronger now and we can help even more"....and the sheeple will buy it. Then the total Dictatorship will commence.

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-08-07   10:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Esso (#18)

As long as we can survive on computers

next in line after air, water, and food. :P

christine  posted on  2005-08-07   10:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Arete (#19)

And having a language barrier/communication impediment at the local 7/11 or on the phone for computer support is just an annoyance--at a hospital or in a healthcare setting, it is downright dangerous.

Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”

wbales  posted on  2005-08-07   10:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: wbales (#24)

on the phone for computer support is just an annoyance--

I just switched IPs because of that nonsense. I went to a small local company that provides cable.

Several times I called for support on my old ISP and I couldn't understand a word. I hung-up several times in vain. My last experience was the last straw.

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-08-07   10:52:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Grumble Jones (#22)

Then the total Dictatorship will commence.

We are much closer to that than almost anyone realizes.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2005-08-07   11:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Red Jones, DeepPockets (#7)

yeah, Red! i think the neocon shill has been resoundingly discredited!

Cast My Fate To The Wind

christine  posted on  2005-08-07   11:34:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Arete (#26)

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." --- George W. Bush

sometimes they do tell the truth.

Cast My Fate To The Wind

christine  posted on  2005-08-07   11:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Tauzero, Red Jones (#8)

To: Red Jones

Bush has proposed 0% tax on investment income. Bush has proposed raising social security taxes from 16 to 21%. At the same time Bush and the republicans take 25% of all social security taxes paid into the system and spend it on something other than social security. Then they're saying they will cut social security payments outright by something like one third.

All sounds good except for the rise in the payroll tax.

There go the small businesses!

Diana  posted on  2005-08-07   15:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Lady X, Grumble Jones, christine, Flintlock, Red Jones, Arete (#15)

Yeah, they always use that one, and the ever popular--They're doing jobs Americans won't do..

My very favorite is:

"We need to get the terrorists over there before we have to deal with them over here"

The terrorists are already here and are very busy bees in the process of dismantling this country.

Wanting to raise the SS tax to such a high rate will force many small businesses to close, which is a form of terrorism in my book.

Diana  posted on  2005-08-07   15:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Diana (#30)

The terrorists are already here and are very busy bees in the process of dismantling this country.

Since 1965


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-08-07   16:17:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Diana (#30)

Wanting to raise the SS tax to such a high rate will force many small businesses to close, which is a form of terrorism in my book.

you're right. we've all read the ideas of the supply-siders and others who say you tax something heavily and get less of it. Well, if we tax jobs through the payroll tax more heavily, we'll have less jobs. Doesn't make sense. Because we have a shortage of jobs in reality. What does Bush want to do? Raise taxes on jobs, and simultaneously eliminate taxes on investment income. These are his proposals.

Red Jones  posted on  2005-08-07   17:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Red Jones, Diana, robin (#32)

Wanting to raise the SS tax to such a high rate will force many small businesses to close, which is a form of terrorism in my book

There goes my dream of owning and operating my own florist....however if I employ illegals I won't have to pay SS taxes..right?

Lady X  posted on  2005-08-07   20:24:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Lady X (#33)

if I employ illegals I won't have to pay SS taxes..right?

My personal opinion is that most illegals work regular jobs that are not cash jobs. they get paid paychecks. and SS tax is withheld. The government does in fact program their computers to systematically identify all those who are working under a fake SSN. Those people are all illegals. Instead of telling hte employer they can't hire these people, the government issues them a number that will keep the accounting straight so the payroll taxes are credited that person whether they're legal or not. Before Bush the government would not identify those working under fake SSNs. But recently, they changed the policy. THey identify such people only so they can issue a different number for that person and keep the accounting straight.

I used to work for a very large construction company in PHoenix that employed maybe 7,000 or so workers who worked in the field in about 25 cities in California, AZ, TX other western states. We had many with duplicate SSNs, meaning these were all fakes. We knew beyond shadow of a doubt that many people were working on falsfified documentation. The system is set up to allow falsified documentation. It was done like that on purpose.

Red Jones  posted on  2005-08-07   21:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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