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Title: Massive US recruitment of Indian nurses - the new wave
Source:
India Daily
URL Source: http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/3951.asp
Published: Aug 5, 2005
Author: Babu Ghanta
Post Date: 2005-08-06 17:18:42 by boonie rat
Keywords: recruitment, Massive, Indian
Views: 191
Comments: 22
Massive US recruitment of Indian nurses - the new wave Babu Ghanta Aug. 5, 2005 It is a new trend that will miniscule all other trends seen before. The overseas placement agencies claim that there is an estimated shortage of nearly 2.5 lakh nurses in hospitals across the US and hence they are now wooing qualified Indian nurses to relocate to the land of the greenback. The nurses can make $5000 per month and up. There are companies that bring in Indian nurses with green card. The aging baby boomers of America provide the bonanza of jobs for the Indian nurse. According to sources this is just the tip of the iceberg. The actual wave in 2010 will be so big that no one really can imagine the same now.
Poster Comment: Boonie Rat MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-'66
Anyone see a trend here? Engineering jobs - gone/ tech jobs - gone/ now nursing jobs being sold. Thanks Jorge.
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Sorry for the double post. DAMN CRS! Boonie Rat MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-'66
It is clear, therefore, that it is time to rethink traditional strategy and tactics when it comes to opposing a modern police state. America is quickly moving into a long dark night of police state tyranny, where the rights now accepted by most as being inalienable will disappear. Let the coming night be filled with a thousand points of resistance. Like the fog which forms when conditions are right and disappears when they are not, so must the resistance to tyranny be. Louis Beam
IF anyone knew anything about the state of the healthcare system in India, be afraid very afraid.
"Every good Christian ought to kick [Jerry] Falwell right in the ass." ---Barry Goldwater
I wish I could laugh at that.
I know. There may be some good health care professionals there but just as with anything in India totally corrupt and half assed.
"Every good Christian ought to kick [Jerry] Falwell right in the ass." ---Barry Goldwater
Actually I heard it was very good, of course that was coming from an Indian.
God is always good!
well my daughter-in-law is Indian and I know about some of her families experiences and they aren't poor by any means. So they'd have access to better than most.
"Every good Christian ought to kick [Jerry] Falwell right in the ass." ---Barry Goldwater
I'm sure health care in India is not even close to our standards, the Indians I work with probably have never even been to a doctor in America to compare the differences. They seem to be very defensive of their nation and their people.
God is always good!
Most NRAs are.. but not my daughter-in-law whatsoever. Shes very blunt and looks at things very objectively.
"Every good Christian ought to kick [Jerry] Falwell right in the ass." ---Barry Goldwater
What's an NRA?
God is always good!
A typo shouldve been NRI. Sorry. Non-resident Indians. Indians living outside of
India.
"Every good Christian ought to kick [Jerry] Falwell right in the ass." ---Barry Goldwater
Well I'm working with about 12 of them who have been in the USA anywhere from 5 years to just a couple of months. They are all H1-b visa holders and most of them told me they don't plan on staying in America. I was kind of surprised that they said this at first, but then they explained that they could live like a king in India for a poverty wage here. IT jobs are plentiful in India right now and most of them are only here to get as much hands on experience as they can with US companies before they go back to India and get a top Indian salary. I think they also like the USA, but they don’t like the high cost of living here.
God is always good!
Most dont plan on staying here. Most are pretty cheap and live that way and save
their money when they are here anyway. They take that money back to India and
can live the high life. Consider the conversion rate. The last time my
daughter-in-law visited there a few months ago. She said that she was shocked at
the amount of disposible income that they had. They are booming really unlike
here and she has warned them that an economy based upon nothing tangible wont
last. When the corporations find the Indians making demands for higher wages and
working conditions they will move somewhere else that else another country that
they can exploit.
"Every good Christian ought to kick [Jerry] Falwell right in the ass." ---Barry Goldwater
well, it's good to know you're working in IT at least. Because your degree is in that. It's the strong-dollar policy I tell you that makes american living too expensive. If the dollar floated it would all be different.
Yes it is good to be working in IT finally, but I had to take a rock bottom salary to do so. In that last month I have got several responses to my resume posted on monster to jobs I haven't even applied to. It looks like IT might finally be starting to pick up in America again, but I don't expect it to last and I am still seriously considering another career.
God is always good!
well you are a real trooper to come through and get a job under these circumstances. I had to go back to construction management myself. it's a very modest career, but I like it.
It's quite hard to get American nurses. In too many cases, the pay simply doesn't match the work load, hours and inherent risks that come with the job.
About ten years ago when I was still in TX, I was seriously thinking about going back to school to be a nurse. But I looked into it, read the want-ads for jobs, and I found out that in order to get a job as a nurse a person had to have prior experience at a nursing job. They were not hiring anyone fresh out of school, as so many people had been going to nursing school so there were just too many applicants for jobs. So I decided I got in on that idea a little too late and did not go to nursing school. So now they are claiming they need to import nurses from India. I don't know what is going on with all this giving away American jobs to foreigners, I suppose they want to lower the wage scale in all professions and import people from third world countries so that the PTB can have a very cheap labor pool in America just like they have in Mexico or other poor countries, though I hear they are even shipping jobs in Mexico to China now because wages there are even cheaper! Pretty soon we will be a lot like Mexico, with a few wealthy people who have to live behind gates with security, while the rest of the people are either criminals or very poor. I think it's safe to say America has seen it's best days and they are long gone.
I worked with an Indian engineer who said that same thing. He didn't care much for this country, and he looked down on Americans, but wanted to work a few years so he and his family could go back to India where they could then live in luxury. He had decent math skills but wasn't the best engineer the company had. He used to call me "that female".
Many nursing jobs now require nurses to do 12 hour shift work.
I've known a couple of people who were working in engineering who had trouble getting jobs in their field after getting laid off and were planning on going back to college to get into health care (in one form or another). Of course they are still paying on the student loans from the last degree that they can't use.
"If you're not cynical, then you're not paying attention."
I remember on FR, I don't remember the posters names, hearing about those who were retrained out of manufacturing into Info Technology. Who then lost their jobs in that, and were trying to choose a field to try once again to get trained in. About the same time, I learned of young IT professionals who resigned with the military, having lost their jobs. During all this time, H1b/L1 visa workers were (and are) pouring into this country, filling the exact jobs they all had. Of course, some jobs were filled overseas, as so many large corporations/banks/telecommunications/etc. offshored/outsourced. In most cases, American engineers and IT employees were forced to train their replacements. Keven Flanagan of Bank of America, shot himself in the Bay are after he was fired. He had just spent several months training a dozen Indians to do his job. He could not find work in all that time. In the medical field, the AMA severely restricted the number of med students. Then when the shortages came, they hired foreigners. It seemed very deliberate to me. I knew and have known many very capable fully qualified and eager Americans who were not admitted to med school. High IQs, straight A's, high SAT scores. Turned down. Then later, hordes of foreigners are becoming American doctors. Go figure. All the nurses I've spoken with claim that there is no real shortage. They said that the problem is with the working hours/conditions/pay. There are a lot of nurses not working full time and many retire early. It is very demanding. I don't know the current state of nursing schools. But there was a time when they were full up, and it wasn't that easy to get in.
At least the nurses will come here. My sister actually gave up Equine Veterinary Technician work and switched to people nursing because the money is much better. Personally, I'd stay in the lower paying job, horses don't bitch as much...
Snuggle Bear meets Mossberg... Balance is restored to the world...
#2. To: boonie rat (#0)
#3. To: Zipporah (#2)
IF anyone knew anything about the state of the healthcare system in India, be afraid very afraid.
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#4. To: robin (#3)
#5. To: Zipporah (#2)
IF anyone knew anything about the state of the healthcare system in India, be afraid very afraid.
#6. To: RickyJ (#5)
#7. To: Zipporah (#6)
well my daughter-in-law is Indian and I know about some of her families experiences and they aren't poor by any means. So they'd have access to better than most.
#8. To: RickyJ (#7)
They seem to be very defensive of their nation and their people.
#9. To: Zipporah (#8)
Most NRAs are...
#10. To: RickyJ (#9)
#11. To: Zipporah (#10)
Non-resident Indians.
#12. To: RickyJ (#11)
#13. To: RickyJ (#11)
#14. To: Red Jones (#13)
well, it's good to know you're working in IT at least. Because your degree is in that. It's the strong-dollar policy I tell you that makes american living too expensive. If the dollar floated it would all be different.
#15. To: RickyJ (#14)
#16. To: boonie rat (#0)
#17. To: boonie rat (#0)
Anyone see a trend here? Engineering jobs - gone/ tech jobs - gone/ now nursing jobs being sold.
#18. To: RickyJ, Zipporah (#11)
They are all H1-b visa holders and most of them told me they don't plan on staying in America. I was kind of surprised that they said this at first, but then they explained that they could live like a king in India for a poverty wage here.
#19. To: Neil McIver (#16)
In too many cases, the pay simply doesn't match the work load, hours and inherent risks that come with the job.
#20. To: boonie rat (#0)
Anyone see a trend here? Engineering jobs - gone/ tech jobs - gone/ now nursing jobs being sold.
#21. To: orangedog (#20)
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#22. To: boonie rat (#0)
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