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Title: Gunman angry over poor English skills, job loss
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URL Source: http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalert ... hostage.shooting.2.975228.html
Published: Apr 4, 2009
Author: WCBS
Post Date: 2009-04-04 10:28:04 by christine
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Views: 142
Comments: 13

Binghamton Rampage: Gunman, 13 Others Dead Officials: Massacre Designed For Maximum Bloodshed Gunman Identified As Jiverly Voong, 42, Of Johnson City, N.Y.

A gunman opened fire on immigrants taking a test to become Americans, and then killed himself.

The tragic incident happened 180 miles northwest of New York City.

Hours later, the questions turned to why.

After a day of carnage, people in Binghamton gathered Friday night to light candles and pray.

"Community is the way we survive these things," a local minister said to the crowd.

It was a massacre designed for maximum bloodshed. Many of the victims were trapped inside the American Civic Center, which provides citizenship help to immigrants and refugees.

"We heard four shots when we were down in the parking lot. Bam, bam, bam, bam. That's when we looked and saw everyone running inside," witness Kenneth Youmans said.

The gunman has been tentatively identified as 42-year-old immigrant Jiverly Voong. Police said before he started shooting, the gunman first barricaded the back of the building with his car. He then walked to the front door, and opened fire. He first shot two receptionists at the front desk. One was killed. The other managed to call for help despite a gunshot wound to the abdomen.

"She pretended she was dead after he shot her. She went down on the ground. He went to a room off the reception area and shot several people. As he went down the hallway in the building, she crawled underneath the desk and sometime after that she called us," Binghamton Police Chief Joseph Zikuski said.

That receptionist stayed on the phone with police for 90 minutes, while the rampage continued.

The gunman aimed at his next targets -- a class of immigrants taking a citizenship exam. SWAT teams surrounded the building immediately. Nearby apartments were also evacuated.

"It's crazy. It's scary. You see this in the movies. You don't expect it to happen in Binghamton," resident Robert Wise said.

Those who could ran for their lives. Twenty-six people hid in the building's boiler room.

"We had to repeatedly reassure them over a period of a few hours to not come out, that we will come and find you," Chief Zikuski said.

At least 37 people got out safely. Police found two handguns at the scene, but still don't have a motive for the crime.

Who was Jiverly Voong?

Chief Zikuski said the shootings were "obviously premeditated."

The big question Friday night was who the gunman was and were there any warning signs.

His rampage came one day after he was laid off from a multinational corporation.

Johnson City is just a few miles west of Binghamton, and it was home to Voong. Neighbors said he shared a Taylor Street house with father and sister.

"It's just insane, it's scary. You don't ever know what is going on and it's just a tragedy that something like that could happen and it could be someone that lives so close to you," neighbor Barbara Monell said.

As detectives removed a rifle case, computer hard drives, and other evidence from the home, a call was made to the house and a woman who answered and identified herself as Voong's sister said, "He didn't have a gun. I think he got shot by somebody else."

Police said Voong had two registered guns, but could not confirm if they were the two recovered at the scene: a 9 mm with an extended clip of ammo, and a .45 caliber.

Investigators said the menacing man in the bright green jacket, black rimmed glasses and a satchel of weaponry was Voong. He was an immigrant from Vietnam targeting other immigrants he likely knew personally because he took classes at the center.

"My heart goes out to the families," Rep. Maurice Hinchey said earlier Friday.

Hinchey said his office was told by four sources the gunman was recently laid off by IBM, but an IBM representative told wcbstv.com on Friday night there was no record of a Jiverly Voong ever working at the company. Investigators said Jiverly Voong also went by the name Lin Voong. They believe he borrowed the car used to block the back entrance, and it did not appear that Voong had a criminal record.

"We've got to figure a way to deal with this senseless, senseless violence," Vice President Joe Biden said on Friday.

Added New York Gov. David Paterson: "When are we going to be able to curb the kind of violence that is so fraught and so rapid that we can't even keep track of the incidents?"

Voong's sister also said he moved here from Vietnam 14 years ago and was granted his U.S. citizenship.

People close to him are being interviewed by investigators, as they try to figure out a cold blooded killer.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Gunman angry over poor English skills, job loss

Poor English skills? In this Multicultural and Multilingual nation?

Say it ain't so ... we bend over backwards to ensure they don't HAVE to learn English!

A blue-ribbon Government task force must be initiated with at least 50 persons on it at salaries ranging from $125k-300k each to investigate this and make the appropriate policy recommendations.

At least $100M must be appropriated to teach Americans how to speak Vietnamese so this never happens again with another immigrant from Vietnam.

Oh, and we need to ban and confiscate all guns immediately.

"We're looking for [Obama] supporters," said DeHaven of Hoover, one of the event's organizers. "We're not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army."

mirage  posted on  2009-04-04   12:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mirage (#1)

Oh, and we need to ban and confiscate all guns immediately.

mmmhmmm. ultimate goal.

christine  posted on  2009-04-04   13:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

Yeah, them immigrants sure are grateful we let them into our country so they don't have to live in the Third World hellholes they came from.

Dancing Turtles and Bouncing Boobs...that's Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-04-04   13:18:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mirage. all (#1)

How could dude have been here fourteen years without learning Engrish?

Do we have a little Hanoi up there?

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-04-04   13:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lodwick, all (#4)

Welcome to Camp Diversity, where all cultures are balanced equally and American nationalism is frowned upon.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-04-04   13:27:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lodwick (#4)

Do we have a little Hanoi up there?

Chinatown, Japantown, Little Havana, Koreatown, Little Saigon ...

No, there is no such thing in any city. Why do you ask? We are one big multicultural nation. There is no such thing as a ghetto or a section of any town that one particular ethnic and/or language group has taken over.

"We're looking for [Obama] supporters," said DeHaven of Hoover, one of the event's organizers. "We're not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army."

mirage  posted on  2009-04-04   13:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lodwick (#4)

How could dude have been here fourteen years without learning Engrish?

Do we have a little Hanoi up there?

Hmong are everywhere. Lots.... over 5000 brought to the Oroville area by our gov and just plopped there.. oops... about fourteen years ago. They singlehandedly took out the Feather River Salmon run which was blamed on everything and everyone but them. They practiced their scorched earth hunter-gathering in the Cal Sierras and the USFS told the locals NOT to complain or take matters into their own hands when out of season wholesale slaughtering was encountered. It took years for the wildlife to return to it's previous numbers after most of the Hmong there were relocated to other states.

Fortunately Cal Fish and Game took a different view when they raided and almost decimated the Abalone grounds.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-04   14:02:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#0)

With all the wars America has been in, starting with the first (white) settlers, and its failure to stamp out Mafia and other gangs, violence seems to be part of the nation's mores. Israel's getting America to fight its wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and maybe Iran is not helping rehabilitate the national character.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2009-04-05   3:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tatarewicz (#8)

Mankind has been at war from the beginning of tribal knowledge irrespective of whom leads the followers. And it will always be this way.

America is not the singular modern group leading the way of spear chucking, either. Nor will it be the last, no matter whose face is on the mask of humanitarian effort.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-04-05   4:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mininggold (#7)

Remember, today's enemy is tomorrow's neighbor. Boy, I'm sure looking forward to having tens of millions of Arabs moving here and inflicting their, er, sorry, "enriching" our culture with theirs, aren't you?

Now, now, no complaining. The elites want what they want, and if the rest of us take it in the shorts, too bad. We're an empire now, not a nation. Those are so old fashioned anyways. So just take it and smile. Now go back to work like a good little serf and make your boss rich.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2009-04-05   4:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#9)

America is not the singular modern group leading the way of spear chucking...

You're right; it's Israel that's leading America into wars against countries that want to help Palestinians get back the land stolen by Israeli terrorists for their illegal Israeli state. Were it not for Saddam helping Palestine's one-way bombers or the Taleban allowing Arab fighters to train in Afghanistan to reclaim Palestine members of America's military would continue getting free vocational and other education, be enjoying cruises throughout the world instead of coming home in caskets or irreparably wounded physically and/or psychologically.

But there's hope with movements like the Kuala Lumpur Foundation whose founder, Dr. Mahathir Mohamed, says all commercial, industrial and scientific activities that aid and abet war should be criminalised.

http://www.crimalisewar.org/foundation.html

Tatarewicz  posted on  2009-04-05   5:00:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tatarewicz (#11)

But there's hope with movements like the Kuala Lumpur Foundation whose founder, Dr. Mahathir Mohamed, says all commercial, industrial and scientific activities that aid and abet war should be criminalized.

hehe

When war is criminalized, then only criminals will fight wars.

Revolution in America has already been criminalized. All wars are criminal activities in the state which is being attacked.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-05   5:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: RickyJ (#12)

All wars are criminal activities in the state which is being attacked.

I don't you think you understand the difference of state power and people influence. Sooner or later, whether the state enjoys the facts or not, the people are going to throw rocks, bottles and gun bullets; some will even throw babies.

It is a matter of historical fact and you can take my perspective to your own future grave.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-04-05   5:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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