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Title: Twenty Minutes That Will Add to Your Life
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Published: Apr 4, 2009
Author: Juan Enriquez
Post Date: 2009-04-04 14:45:43 by Turtle
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Views: 207
Comments: 14

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I have no use for conspiracist thinking. Such thinking has killed more people in the history of the world than anything else.

Conspiracist thinking plus the State, conspiracist thinking plus religion....gencoide upon genocide.

This includes Truthers holding trials for the coming decades and getting exactly nowhere.

This video will not embed, but only link. But the guy knows what he is talking about. He's not the only one, either.

People can moan and groan all they want, make themselves feel good by pretending world-wide fascism is coming, or that the Iluminati really exists, or all the rest of that nonsense.

I'm not one of them.

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

I have no use for conspiracist thinking. Such thinking has killed more people in the history of the world than anything else.

Just because you refuse to participate does not mean that your rules will be obeyed by the rest when put to the test. lol. History is what it is. Human nature.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-04   15:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#0)

Has anyone tried to force you to believe anything? I don't understand why you feel you must continually post that you don't believe in "conspiracy theories." There are many conspiracy theories and there are reasons why they exist. You may be too trustful of those who would harm you if you believe anything and everything the government tells you in their official lies lines.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-04   15:30:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: James Deffenbach (#2)

There are many conspiracy theories

9/11 was a conspiracy.

Either a bunch or Arabs conspired to pull it off and did -or- it was an inside job.

If anyone can prove it was not a conspiracy, let me know.

"We're looking for [Obama] supporters," said DeHaven of Hoover, one of the event's organizers. "We're not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army."

mirage  posted on  2009-04-04   15:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mirage (#3)

9/11 was a conspiracy.

Either a bunch or Arabs conspired to pull it off and did -or- it was an inside job.

Exactly. And to me the government's conspiracy theory was the most unbelievable of just about any that I have read about.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-04   16:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mirage (#3)

9/11 was truly a conspiracy, there can be no doubt about that. The doubts arise as to who the perpetrators were. Some people actually believe the government's story about what happened that day and some of us believe that the government told a fantastic fairy tale. But that it was indeed a conspiracy is beyond doubt.

The Legal Definition Of Conspiracy

A combination or agreement of two or more persons to join together to attempt to accomplish some unlawful purpose. It is a kind of 'partnership in criminal purposes,' and willful participation in such a scheme or agreement, followed by the commission of an overt act by one of the conspirators is sufficient to complete the offense of 'conspiracy' itself even though the ultimate criminal object of the conspiracy is not accomplished or carried out. To establish the offense of 'conspiracy' the Government must prove:

(1) That two or more persons in some way or manner, came to a mutual understanding to try to accomplish a common and unlawful plan, as charged in the indictment; (2) That the person willfully became a member of such conspiracy; (3) That one of the conspirators during the existence of the conspiracy knowingly committed at least one of the methods (or 'overt acts') described in the indictment; and (4) That such 'overt act' was knowingly committed at or about the time alleged in an effort to effect or accomplish some object or purpose of the conspiracy.

I believe that 9/11 was a MIHOP (made it happen on purpose). Others believe it was a LIHOP (let it happen on purpose). If it happened either way then some members of the government conspired in an evil scheme that killed thousands of Americans and got us involved in an unjust war against people who had not harmed us.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-04   17:27:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle (#0)

People can moan and groan all they want, make themselves feel good by pretending world-wide fascism is coming, or that the Iluminati really exists, or all the rest of that nonsense.

I'm not one of them.

People who are competent and self-reliant have no need for conspiracist nuttery.

They just have time for the braggadoccio nuttery instead. Those self bragging kind of people are nut cases.

You are so nutty they could make peanut butter outta your bugwit brain!

LACUMO  posted on  2009-04-04   17:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Turtle (#0) (Edited)

This video will not embed, but only link. But the guy knows what he is talking about. He's not the only one, either.

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Didn't watch it but it seems to embed just fine.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-04   18:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Turtle (#0)

I have no use for conspiracist thinking.

Might I point out that the Federal Government certainly does, as something well over ten thousand peoples are incarcerated by Fed Gov for conspiracies of various sorts.

Seem they are the only ones allowed to believe in conspiracies.

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tom007  posted on  2009-04-04   19:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: James Deffenbach (#4)

Exactly. And to me the government's conspiracy theory was the most unbelievable of just about any that I have read about.

~ even though they are guberment folks, I know they are more clever than this, they coulda pulled an event like that off without leaving so many questions and bread crumbs to follow causing the public sector to become divided in debate like this ... they gave us a bullshit story that thinking people can see through, at the very least know is BS ... yet all their loyal followers and successfully programmed subjects believe it ... poof ~


~ the internet was first filled with light, beauty 'n knowledge, from pure data to simple poetry, the best of us ran with this project, caught 'them' totally by surprise ~ an entire war has already been fought and.....

Amandil  posted on  2009-04-04   21:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: James Deffenbach, Turtle (#2)

Has anyone tried to force you to believe anything? I don't understand why you feel you must continually post that you don't believe in "conspiracy theories." There are many conspiracy theories and there are reasons why they exist. You may be too trustful of those who would harm you if you believe anything and everything the government tells you in their official lies lines.

well said, but it will never penetrate that hard head of Turtle's.

christine  posted on  2009-04-04   21:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Amandil (#9)

they gave us a bullshit story that thinking people can see through, at the very least know is BS ... yet all their loyal followers and successfully programmed subjects believe it ... poof ~

bumpity bump

christine  posted on  2009-04-04   21:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Amandil (#9)

they gave us a bullshit story that thinking people can see through, at the very least know is BS

I think the operative words there are "thinking people can see through" it. Not everyone chooses to think, it apparently makes their heads hurt too bad.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-04   21:31:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine, Turtle (#10)

well said, but it will never penetrate that hard head of Turtle's.

Thank you, christine. Sometimes I think Turtle is just jerking our chain(s) because I really believe he is smarter than some of the more--what should I call it?--nonsense stuff he posts.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-04   21:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Turtle (#0)

~ that's an interesting video ... thanks ... but I don't see how it relates to yer comments? even the speaker acknowledges the financial crash we are in, does a great job of explaining how we got here too (imo) ~ he's in the sector of our society that has the best chance of survivin and being here for the re-boot and to be honest, he seems a lil excited about that, not worried at all that things are going to hell, he's a cheerleader for the re-boot project ...


~ the internet was first filled with light, beauty 'n knowledge, from pure data to simple poetry, the best of us ran with this project, caught 'them' totally by surprise ~ an entire war has already been fought and.....

Amandil  posted on  2009-04-04   21:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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