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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
Source: whatreallyhappened.com
URL Source: http://whatreallyhappened.com/conte ... world-trade-center-catastrophe
Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
Views: 29568
Comments: 690

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

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Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS.

This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.

Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature.

This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

See Thermite and the WTC Collapses

Posted on Apr 04, 2009 at 07:49

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#4. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower...

Putting aside the absolutely incredulous nature of that statement, where was this Manhattan resident?

two the next day, and a fourth about a week later.

From where?

war  posted on  2009-04-05   12:23:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#4)

Putting aside the absolutely incredulous nature of that statement, where was this Manhattan resident?

Why is it incredulous? Aren't you interested in knowing all the reasons why these magnificient buildings whose plans were passed with flying colors by the PTB had such an Achilles Heel?

And who knows.... maybe that Manhattan resident was already making plans for his next big sale.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-05   12:33:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mininggold (#5)

Aren't you interested in knowing all the reasons why these magnificient buildings whose plans were passed with flying colors by the PTB had such an Achilles Heel?

The Achilles heel being planes impacting at over 400MPH, exploding and then multi floor fires burning out of control? Chyea...whoda thought? Obviously not the people who sent the planes into the buildings...

war  posted on  2009-04-05   12:54:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#8)

and then multi floor fires burning out of control?

Yeah, and just moments before the collapse, a veteran battalion chief who would know what to look for if danger was present, calls down:

Critter  posted on  2009-04-05   12:57:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Critter (#11)

One floor which was below impact is indicative of the rest including the impact zone? How many more pictures of flames shooting out of WTC must I post before you folks get it?

war  posted on  2009-04-05   13:12:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war (#19)

before you folks get it?

According to the Journal of Australian Fire Investigators, kerosene ignites at around 444°F. The temperature that the fire will eventually reach depends on both the combustion rate (based on O2) and the rate at which heat can be disbursed in the given scenario. Again, any firefighter can explain from experience and training that the black, sooty smoke (like that found on 9/11 at the WTC towers) were O2 deprived. Again, please contact professionals to verify this if you wish. In an oxygen deprived environment, higher temperatures cannot be reached. You can test this yourself by comparing a match in the open vs. a match in a bottle with a very small hole.

T.C. Forensic: Article 10 - PHYSICAL CONSTANTS FOR INVESTIGATORS
PHYSICAL CONSTANTS FOR INVESTIGATORS. by Tony Cafe. Reproduced from "Firepiont" magazine - Journal of Australian Fire Investigators. ...
www.tcforensic.com.au/docs/article10.html - 69k - Cached

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-05   13:18:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: TwentyTwelve (#24)

according to you these fires are oxygen deprived:

war  posted on  2009-04-07   15:07:00 ET  (3 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: war (#89)

They are.

There is not enough oxygen in proximity to the flame to support efficient combustion.

If you knew anything... if you SHIT about anything, you'd know that. Why the fuck do you think lots of oxygen under pressure is required to get an acetylene torch to get hot enough to cut and weld?

Critter  posted on  2009-04-07   15:12:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Critter (#90)

Oxyegen dDeproved?

All of those fires will be out in a couple of minutes, right? Oxygen deprived that they are...

war  posted on  2009-04-07   15:37:04 ET  (3 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: war (#92)

All of those fires will be out in a couple of minutes, right? Oxygen deprived that they are...

These are pics of black rubber tires burning.

Duh.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-07   16:43:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: TwentyTwelve (#94)

These are pics of black rubber tires burning.

So...not only does smoke turn black when it's oxygen deprived it also reflects the color of what is being burned...

Someone forgot to tell this red car that [or maybe it was black but then painted red in a massive scheme to defraud the Laws of Smoke by The Those Same Dark Forces Which Were Behind 9/11?]:

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:13:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: war (#116)

Hey dipshit, I bet dollars to donuts that the roof of that car didn't collapse.

Critter  posted on  2009-04-08   12:37:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Critter (#120)

Hey Moonbat...I'll bet you dollars to donuts that fire ISN'T oxygen starved...

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:38:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: war (#122)

...I'll bet you dollars to donuts that fire ISN'T oxygen starved...

There was oil and tires in the WTC buildings?

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-08   12:42:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: mininggold (#127)

There was oil and tires in the WTC buildings?

There were petroleum based products most certainly.

Yea...you walked right into it...your other two Moonies, I'll give them credit for being smart enough to NOT ask that question...then there's you...

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:47:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: war (#129)

There were petroleum based products most certainly.

Yea...you walked right into it...your other two Moonies, I'll give them credit for being smart enough to NOT ask that question...then there's you...

The burning parts of the car is made up almost entirely of petroleum based products.... BUT You don't seem to realize that as soon as you have to resort to name calling YOU HAVE LOST.

When will YOU ask for a full investigation? Especially since you claim to work in an area full of buildings ready to collapse from small office fires.

LOLOLOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-08   12:54:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: mininggold (#133)

Especially since you claim to work in an area full of buildings ready to collapse from small office fires.

Is calling you a goddammed liar name calling or truth?

war  posted on  2009-04-08   13:03:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: war (#139)

Is calling you a goddammed liar name calling or truth?

What did I lie about? You not calling for a thorough investigation?

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-08   13:06:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: mininggold (#144)

What did I lie about?

"Especially since you claim to work in an area full of buildings ready to collapse from small office fires."

I've never made the claim that these buildings are ready to collapse form small offioce fires. And, if you are claimiong that the fires in WTC were only small office fires then you are lying again.

war  posted on  2009-04-08   13:13:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: war (#147)

I've never made the claim that these buildings are ready to collapse form small offioce fires. And, if you are claimiong that the fires in WTC were only small office fires then you are lying again.

Then how did that WTC7 building collapse? Was it made out of wood? All you have to do is show us one example where a similiar building under similiar circunstances came a tumbling down in similiar fashion. One itty bitty example. Come on.... you are good for it.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-08   13:18:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: mininggold (#151)

Then how did that WTC7 building collapse?

An out of control fire across most of its floors compromised a major support beam which, in turn, caused cascading failure which resulted in the building's collapse... Thanks for asking...

war  posted on  2009-04-08   13:21:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: war, mininggold (#154)

An out of control fire across most of its floors compromised a major support beam which, in turn, caused cascading failure which resulted in the building's collapse...

Bullshit. You posted a picture of Building FIVE which WAS experiencing a major fire, trying to pass it off as Building SEVEN. Building SEVEN had a very minor fire yet collapsed, whereas Building FIVE had a seriously out of control fire yet DIDN'T collapse.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-08   20:25:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: FormerLurker, mininggold, Litus, Wudidiz, war (#173)

To war: Bullshit. You posted a picture of Building FIVE which WAS experiencing a major fire, trying to pass it off as Building SEVEN. Building SEVEN had a very minor fire yet collapsed, whereas Building FIVE had a seriously out of control fire yet DIDN'T collapse.

war has lost all credibility.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-08   20:28:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, war (#174)

You posted a picture of Building FIVE which WAS experiencing a major fire, trying to pass it off as Building SEVEN. Building SEVEN had a very minor fire yet collapsed, whereas Building FIVE had a seriously out of control fire yet DIDN'T collapse.

war has lost all credibility.

Why would he have done that?

litus  posted on  2009-04-08   20:48:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: litus (#179)

Why would he have done that?

FL is a lying shill...the picture was posted in response to him claming that there were no fires raging out of control on 9/11. It was never intended to be limited to building 7.

Ask him to buck up the post...he won't...

war  posted on  2009-04-09   9:42:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#218. To: war, litus, TwentyTwelve, RickyJ, Original_Intent, wudidiz, christine (#201)

FL is a lying shill...the picture was posted in response to him claming that there were no fires raging out of control on 9/11. It was never intended to be limited to building 7.

Oh REALLY? Ok dokie, let's go back to what you first posted in that regard...

We were SPECIFICALLY talking about Building 7 in post 67, and here's that converstation from that post;

war: WTC 7 was no "realtively undamaged". Almost teh whole of the South Facade was gone and fires raged within it...

FormerLurker: Bullshit. Even if true, WTC7 was internally reinforced. Do you think it was incapable of supporting itself without one of it's exterior walls? How do you think it kept from falling while they were building it?

You have so many childish assumptions it's sort of humorous, as you have to used really fractured logic to arrive at your conclusions.

Oh and BTW, there were no "raging fires", there was a bit of a diesel fire inside but nothing close to a "raging fire".

You think that a structure such as WTC7 would simply collapse like a deck of cards due to a relatively small internal fire a bit of damage to an exterior wall?

And here's what you posted in response to post 67;

war  posted on  2009-03-18   9:23:55 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  
#175. To: FormerLurker (#67)

Apparently we studied a different sort of physics.

Mine had gravity in it.

Where were the Enron SEC filings stored?

In a computer database.

Oh and BTW, there were no "raging fires", there was a bit of a diesel fire inside but nothing close to a "raging fire".

You're out of your fucking mind. Do I need to post yet even more pictures showing how stupid you are?

war  posted on  2009-03-18   9:28:20 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

 


So you wrote to me in response to my comments on Building 7, "You're out of your fucking mind. Do I need to post yet even more pictures showing how stupid you are? "

You then posted an image of Building 5, using it as "proof" of "how fucking stupid" I was.

Building 5 is the last visible image in that post (the last picture doesn't show, it's just a X). The image file is named http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/docs/wtc5_fire_floors.jpg, which is pretty clear that it's an image of wtc5, not wtc7. You also posted an image of one of the towers for effect I guess, but it's apparent that you were trying to get away with posting an image of Building 5 and having people believe it was actually Building 7.

So you are shown to be a LIAR and a SHILL, and simply retort with those words against one who first identified you as such. I used to have to post things that BAC used to try to get away with back on LP, where a day or so after he posted something he'd deny it or misrepresent what he was posting in reference to, just like you.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-09 12:12:33 ET  (3 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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