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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
Source: whatreallyhappened.com
URL Source: http://whatreallyhappened.com/conte ... world-trade-center-catastrophe
Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
Views: 10665
Comments: 690

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

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Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS.

This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.

Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature.

This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

See Thermite and the WTC Collapses

Posted on Apr 04, 2009 at 07:49

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BOYCOTT NEW YORK CITY!!!!!!!

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-09   12:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So you wrote to me in response to my comments on Building 7, "You're out of your fucking mind. Do I need to post yet even more pictures showing how stupid you are? " You then posted an image of Building 5, using it as "proof" of "how fucking stupid" I was.

Building 5 is the last visible image in that post (the last picture doesn't show, it's just a X). The image file is named http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/docs/wtc5_fire_floors.jpg, which is pretty clear that it's an image of wtc5, not wtc7. You also posted an image of one of the towers for effect I guess, but it's apparent that you were trying to get away with posting an image of Building 5 and having people believe it was actually Building 7.

So you are shown to be a LIAR and a SHILL, and simply retort with those words against one who first identified you as such. I used to have to post things that BAC used to try to get away with back on LP, where a day or so after he posted something he'd deny it or misrepresent what he was posting in reference to, just like you.

FormerLurker

Here's the comment to you.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-09   12:58:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So you don't even have the ability to just ignore a poster when they disagree with you?

My, my... such a fragile creature.

Talk to your shill buddies who have me on bozo...

war  posted on  2009-04-09   12:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I listened when NPR was pumping out the Neocon propaganda via its affilitions with The Weekly Standard. You obviously don't pay attention to what's in front of your face.

Don't forget to get dressed up for the radio.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-09   12:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Talk to your shill buddies who have me on bozo...

None are my "buddies" except they share my disdain for your tactics and all seem to be posting to you which means they haven't bozo'd you.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-09   13:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Seigal is a good interviewer too...he prepares very well and avoids being the story...

Get over it. Siegel is just another media kike:

NPR anchor Robert Siegel's double standard for Freeman

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-09   13:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Look I appreciate what you are tyring to do. My response was in the context of his claim that there fires on 9/11 at WTC were minimal...it's why I included pics of all the buildings at which point my response should have been clear to him. I never represented those pics as being of one buildings I explained that him when he first accused me of that. I can't help his ongoing denial.

He was bozo'd simply because the exchange had gotten stale...he asked and continued to ask the same questions...he would make statements of "fact" that were anything but, be corrected with links and sources and then would later make the same statements.

As for you contention that I am some sort of coward for bozoing someone...I don't do it lightly...otehr than that I could give a fuck what you think of me...you don't know me...

war  posted on  2009-04-09   13:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

and all seem to be posting to you which means they haven't bozo'd you.

Rotara, randge, Deffenbach have all claimed to have bozo'd me. OI did as well but then continued to respond to me.

I was pointing out that you seem to be selective in your criticism. Fuckk seem to be...you ARE selective.

war  posted on  2009-04-09   13:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Get over it. Siegel is just another media kike:

And you're just another racist. Without him, you'd be nothing.

war  posted on  2009-04-09   13:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I can always count on you to play to form. You ignore NPR's neocon affiliations and zero in on 'racism'.

Calling predatory Jews what they are (kikes) isn't racist. Jews aren't a race.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-09   13:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I listened when NPR was pumping out the Neocon propaganda via its affilitions with The Weekly Standard. You obviously don't pay attention to what's in front of your face.

I listen to NPR daily...I find it hilarious that NPR was attacked for biased reporting against Booosh's Folly in Iraq. NPR is routinely accused of having a pro-Palestinian bias and is often called by the Israeli/Zionist media as being the most anti-Israel news outlet in the US.

IN other words, you're opinion is nowhere based in reality.

war  posted on  2009-04-09   13:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Calling predatory Jews what they are (kikes) isn't racist.

I stand corrected...it's bigotry.

war  posted on  2009-04-09   13:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You ignore NPR's neocon affiliations

Such as?

war  posted on  2009-04-09   13:35:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

NPR has always been in favor of the "war on terror" as it was carried into Iraq and Afghansitan. It's one of THE central Neocon/Neolib ideologies. If it quacks like a duck...

NPR rountinely has Bill Kristol, Fred Barnes and other human waste on as commentators. Are there any other murderers and their accomplices that you wish to defend?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-09   13:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It would be 'bigoted' to call all Jews kikes. I reserve 'kike' for those media/government/moneyed Jews that are in alliance with each other to steal what's left of our inheritance.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-09   13:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Rotara, randge, Deffenbach have all claimed to have bozo'd me. OI did as well but then continued to respond to me.

I was pointing out that you seem to be selective in your criticism. Fuckk seem to be...you ARE selective.

Yet none seem to show much interest on this thread. Another distraction and a name calling opportunity. They are just playing with you as you try to play with them. Tit for Tat. LOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-09   13:46:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Rotara, randge, Deffenbach have all claimed to have bozo'd me. OI did as well but then continued to respond to me.

Shit, I did that long ago.

You people have the patience of a saint.

Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-09   13:52:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

NPR has always been in favor of the "war on terror"

Not only as a listern of NPR but As a friend of Adam Davidson who was NPR's reporter in Iraq I can tell you that is 100% false.

NPR rountinely has Bill Kristol, Fred Barnes and other human waste on as commentators.

ROFLMAO...they also did a series on Louis Farrakhan and Mariam Sobh is an NPR reporter.

Just Say No to NPR
by Andrea Levin
October 4, 2002

Recent boycotts of media outlets, launched mostly by grassroots groups concerned about anti-Israel bias, have prompted criticism from a few establishment Jewish organizations that have argued that because the Jews and Israel have been the victims of boycotts, the tactic is illegitimate and immoral. But these arguments ignore certain basics.

First, to state the obvious, the current campaigns bear no resemblance to the protracted, global economic, diplomatic and cultural exclusions Israel has suffered or the ferocious campaigns against Jewish businesses in Nazi-era Europe. Those anti-Jewish boycotts, dictated by ruling regimes, were rooted in a hateful bigotry and aimed at the elimination of a people and a state, not the redress of an offending policy.

The protests against The New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Philadelphia Inquirer and others are initiatives by individuals, not governments, and are freely joined by anyone who accepts the arguments of the campaigners. No one is compelled to end their subscriptions to the publications, just as no one, surely, is compelled to continue them.

Boycotts in the American context have long been a tool of consumer complaint and social policy activism, sometimes an effective one -- often not -- and Jews, including Jewish organizations, have participated in them. For example, was the Central Conference of American Rabbis wrong in 1985 to call on 1.2 million Reform congregants to boycott nonunion California grapes in support of Cesar Chavez's campaign?

From another perspective, to say that boycotts should not be used by Jews because Jews have been the victims of boycotts makes no more sense than to assert that because guns and soldiers have been wielded against Jews and Israel, Jews should forego their use, no matter what the provocation, in order to present a more pure moral face to the world.

Although the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA) has not initiated or sponsored boycott campaigns against any national or regional newspapers, there has been a call to suspend financial support for one media outlet until its harmful anti-Israel bias ends. That institution is National Public Radio (NPR). The network receives tax support, both directly and indirectly, via the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and aggressively solicits financial gifts from listeners and underwriters (who are actually business and institutional advertisers). A matrix of local and national boards cultivates supporters and helps advance NPR's fundraising efforts.

Are Jewish listeners under obligation to provide both the involuntary support to NPR, entailed in their taxes allotted to the network, and additional donations in response to the constant entreaties by station managers and NPR officials? Are Jewish listeners duty bound to send checks to help finance programming in which grave allegations are routinely leveled at Israel without a single Israeli given the right of response?

The many examples of distortion are far too numerous to recite in detail. A July 1 program, for instance, charged that Israel continuously shoots at innocent sewer repairmen in Gaza, thwarting efforts to assure healthy conditions for Palestinian civilians. So relentless are Israeli snipers, according to NPR, that international "activists" must position themselves, physically, between the shooters and the repairmen. Palestinian "human rights" and medical workers all join in attesting to the allegedly malevolent role of Israel.

But not a single Israeli is permitted to answer the charges. Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesmen categorically denied the NPR claims to CAMERA and said, moreover, NPR had never contacted them about the story. The IDF spokesman also noted that the network's reporters rarely call to fact check allegations made against the military. Under public pressure in this instance, NPR posted a note on its Web site expressing "regrets" for failing to include any Israeli spokesman. The regrets were not broadcast on-air where a substantial audience might hear them, nor was there a follow-up story presenting the Israeli version of events. The "regrets" were evidently insincere since one-sided, accusatory coverage continues unabated.

An especially incendiary story on Aug. 31 by Anne Garrels included six Palestinians leveling charges against Israel for allegedly depriving them of needed water in West Bank towns. No Israeli or pro-Israel voices were included. Garrels herself added to the deceptions, twice stating that only half of West Bank towns have tap water. What she neglected to mention is that all towns were given the option of being connected to the National Water Carrier to tap water, but some refused on political grounds, refusing to recognize Israel's presence in any guise.

That excluded bit of information would have radically altered Garrels' story of blameless Palestinians victimized by stone-hearted Israelis. But her reports are typically short on factual accuracy and long on emotive editorializing.

Troubled at rising public dismay over the coverage, NPR executives have responded, not by rigorous attention to assuring every broadcast is balanced and accurate, but by hiring a PR firm to help spin their image in the Jewish community. All the while, the distortions continue. A media outlet unwilling to address serious substantive complaints through the normal channels of interaction for more than a decade, which is the case with NPR, cannot expect the Jewish community to underwrite unfair and damaging distortions.

What self-respecting people supports its own defamation?

Anchor Melissa Block: "In Washington today, active-duty members of the U.S. armed services presented more than a thousand appeals for redress to Congress. These are letters urging U.S. disengagement from Iraq.Here's NPR's David Welna from the Capitol."

Welna: "Liam Madden is a 22-year-old sergeant in the U.S. Marine Corps who two years ago did combat duty in Iraq's turbulent Anbar province. Today, Sergeant Madden donned a civilian coat and tie in a chilling wind outside the Capitol so he could formally present 1,028 appeals for redress from other active-duty forces, 60 percent of them fellow Iraq veterans.

Sgt. Liam Madden: "We are asking Congress to stop the funding for the Iraq War. We will not tolerate the rhetoric that we must support the troops by funding a war that puts them in harm's way. If you are funding a war that puts them in harm's way, you are not supporting them. You are endangering their lives for war that cannot be justified, have not been justified and will not work."

Welna: "The actual text of the appeals for redress says, quote, ‘I respectfully urge my political leaders in Congress to support the prompt withdrawal of all American military forces and bases from Iraq. Staying in Iraq will not work and it's not worth the price,’ unquote.Twenty-four-year-old California Army National Guard Sergeant Jabbar Magruder, who also fought two years ago in Iraq, came in civilian dress as well and said he had not told his commander about the appeal he had signed."

Sgt. Jabbar Magruder: "I know why I was fighting in Iraq. I wanted somebody to get this movement going. I wanted to see things here at home changed to get back to common sense and actually speak about, you know, bringing the troops home and actually getting out of Iraq. So I know that there are troops in Iraq right now who must see this on ASN and know that they are -- that we had their best interests in mind, especially since we put our boots on ground."

Welna: "Ohio Democrat Dennis Kucinich, a long time opponent of the war and who's also a presidential contender, received the appeals for redress saying since lawmakers sent people to Iraq and asked them to die, those people have a right to ask why."

Rep. Dennis Kucinich: "Article 3.5.7 of Department of Defense Directive 132.6 provides the right of service members to complain and request redress of grievances against action of their commanders. The action taken here by individual service members is an appeal for redress to end the war in Iraq. As you know, these troops have risked their careers to deliver this message to Congress."

Welna: "But the identities of most of those who signed the appeals won't be revealed, according to Sergeant Madden, who co-founded the drive to collect signatures."

Sgt. Madden: "Although what we're doing is public, the appeal goes directly -- it's a protected communications to the service members, members of Congress. Their chain of command does not know. Members around the military don't have to worry about reprisal."

Welna: "And none of the three active-duty service members who were at the Capitol Hill event reported any reprisals from military superiors. Massachusetts Democrat Jim McGovern promised them Congress will act on their demands since, he said, President Bush won't."

Rep. Jim McGovern: "What you need to do in the face of that kind of arrogance of power is you need to get Congress to stand up and to demand an end to this war. And if that means conditioning, withholding or cutting the funds, that's what we need to do."

Welna: "That's exactly how Congress ended U.S. involvement in Vietnam 32 years ago. Vietnam veteran David Cline told the active-duty service members that their Vietnam-era counterparts had also signed petitions."

David Cline, Vietnam veteran: "So we are seeing a repeat of history. The war in Iraq is a repeat of the Vietnam War, well I'm proud to say that are fighting men and women are repeating what we did back in the '60s and '70s in standing up for what's right."

Welna: "The appeals for redress are to be delivered to the House clerk and referred to the proper committees.David Welna, NPR News, the Capitol."

war  posted on  2009-04-09   13:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yet none seem to show much interest on this thread.

Um...they have me bozo'd....did you miss that part? How can they respond to me if they don't see me?

war  posted on  2009-04-09   13:59:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I reserve 'kike' for those media/government/moneyed Jews that are in alliance with each other to steal what's left of our inheritance.

I can't get through the day without one big juicy rationalizaytion either...

What's your excuse for the picture of the black guy?

war  posted on  2009-04-09   14:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

BOYCOTT NEW YORK CITY

Fine with me...you tourists are a pain in the ass...

war  posted on  2009-04-09   14:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As a friend of Adam Davidson...

Keep shooting yourself in the foot. It's entertaining.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-09   14:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're proving yourself a house nigger and a programmed gov/media bot with every post. Please continue.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-09   14:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They aren't on this particular thread and I have no idea about the other threads. I have other things to do than hang out on all the threads to see which posters are posting to you. Geesh get a life.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-09   14:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

war, tuning in and it's not ATC. it's Talk of the Nation.

christine  posted on  2009-04-09   17:10:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

BOYCOTT NEW YORK CITY

Fine with me...you tourists are a pain in the ass...

You really are quite the fool!

***

www.breitbart.com/article...3ee7aa.551&show_article=1

Job cuts needed to stop NY bankruptcy: mayor

Apr 9 01:32 PM US/Eastern

Sweeping layoffs of government employees are needed to prevent New York going bankrupt, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Thursday.

Bloomberg, who is in tense negotiations with municipal workers' unions, said an extra 7,000 jobs would have to go unless major reductions are made in employee benefits.

"We cannot continue. Our pension costs and health care costs for our employees are going to bankrupt this city," he said in comments broadcast on NY1 television.

Bloomberg, running for a third mayoral term at the end of this year, said that proposals from unions so far were "nowhere near what is adequate."

The possible job cuts, first announced Wednesday, would be on top of 1,300 already proposed and another 8,000 that could be axed through attrition.

Department heads have until Monday to propose cuts and Bloomberg must present the city budget by the end of the month. The city is barred by law from running deficits.

The recession and the Wall Street crisis have knocked a huge hole in city finances that traditionally relied heavily on taxes from financial companies.

The budget office on Wednesday said that 7,000 extra job cuts would allow the city to cut a further 350 million dollars in expenditure.

Copyright AFP 2008

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-09   18:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My response was in the context of his claim that there fires on 9/11 at WTC were minimal...

You are a LIAR war. It is clear from post 67 and post 175 that the conversation was SPECIFICALLY about Building 7, not ALL of the WTC buildings. And BTW, in regards to WTC1 and WTC2 (since you want to expand the conversation to ALL of the collapsed buildings), the fires in the towers were just about out, right before those buildings collapsed.

As far as Building 5, which you posted an image of and which was NOT being discussed, it was engulfed in flames, yet DID NOT COLLAPSE.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-09   18:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He was bozo'd simply because the exchange had gotten stale...he asked and continued to ask the same questions...

LIAR. You could NOT find a flight manifest yet you posted newspaper graphics claiming THEY were the manifests. You posted conflicting collapse times for Building 7, and never gave a firm number for the collapse times of WTC1 and WTC2.

You tap danced and bullshitted your way through this thread, then bozo'd me because I was calling you on your bullshit and lies, and you couldn't find an adequate lie to explain your inconsistent and conflicting remarks and statements.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-09   18:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

war, tuning in and it's not ATC. it's Talk of the Nation.

Are you in Eastern Time Zone? It's on the website...

war  posted on  2009-04-09   18:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your point was what?

war  posted on  2009-04-09   18:58:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have other things to do than hang out on all the threads to see which posters are posting to you. Geesh get a life.

So...you have no problem yelling at me for bozo'ng someone but can;t be bothered with those who bozo me all the while painfullyh unaware of a search function.

war  posted on  2009-04-09   18:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As a friend of Adam Davidson...

Keep shooting yourself in the foot. It's entertaining.

You have a problem with the Irish too?

war  posted on  2009-04-09   19:01:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your point was what?

Think about it.

Don't hurt yourself.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-09   19:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're proving yourself a house nigger

I'll try harder...

war  posted on  2009-04-09   19:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Think about it.

I'm for smaller government. Why would this upset me?

war  posted on  2009-04-09   19:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

www.npr.org/audiohelp/progst ream.html

i logged in here at 4 pm CT and it was airing Talk of the Nation. check the program scheduling displayed on that page.

christine  posted on  2009-04-09   19:09:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My response was in the context of his claim that there fires on 9/11 at WTC were minimal...

You are a LIAR war. It is clear from post 67 and post 175 that the conversation was SPECIFICALLY about Building 7, not ALL of the WTC buildings. And BTW, in regards to WTC1 and WTC2 (since you want to expand the conversation to ALL of the collapsed buildings), the fires in the towers were just about out, right before those buildings collapsed.

As far as Building 5, which you posted an image of and which was NOT being discussed, it was engulfed in flames, yet DID NOT COLLAPSE.

As well some of the heroes of FDNY reached the 85th floor, afoot, before the collapse and began radioing back about the SURVIVORS on the impacted floors and the need for two hose crews to knock down the flames. That is NOT a raging inferno it is a moderate building fire which would have been easily controlled. We know that the aircraft did not substantially damage the massively reinforced steel girder core (which was interlocked and so would have acted as a "heat sink" resulting in holding the temperature of the steel down below any of the critical points), that the fuel was burned up within ten minutes, and that the overbuilt cores of the building were more than adequate to sustain the level of proven damage and remain standing.

The problem Whore runs into is that none of the Official Fairy Tale is supported by the available evidence. It is just that - a fairy tale concocted to sell to the technically ill-informed general public the idea that the fairy tale explains the collapse and thus divert attention away from evidence supporting explosive demolition.

Just on an evidenciary basis controlled demolition alone accounts for all of the observed phenomena. The Official Fairy Tale is contradicted by dozens to hundreds of observed datums. That is why quisling slime such as Whore are paid to run around and lie on different web sites to try to lend support to the false explanation.

Oh, and one of the reasons that aid is being withheld from the heroes of the FDNY is that there are too many living witnesses who have gone on record saying there were explosions. The criminals who orchestrated this false flag terror crime WANT them to die as quickly as possible to get rid of inconvenient witnesses.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-09   19:26:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh, and one of the reasons that aid is being withheld from the heroes of the FDNY is that there are too many living witnesses who have gone on record saying there were explosions. The criminals who orchestrated this false flag terror crime WANT them to die as quickly as possible to get rid of inconvenient witnesses.

bttt

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-09   19:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As well some of the heroes of FDNY reached the 85th floor, afoot, before the collapse and began radioing back about the SURVIVORS on the impacted floors and the need for two hose crews to knock down the flames. That is NOT a raging inferno it is a moderate building fire which would have been easily controlled.

Oh, excellent point there, OI. I don't know if I knew about this. Obviously, if it was a "raging inferno" there was no way that any firemen would have attempted to put that out, or called in for more crews.

Oh, and one of the reasons that aid is being withheld from the heroes of the FDNY...The criminals who orchestrated this false flag terror crime WANT them to die as quickly as possible to get rid of inconvenient witnesses.

Aid is being withheld from them? There can be NO OTHER reason than for the very reason you opined!

litus  posted on  2009-04-09   20:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here is a link to a downloadable audio mp3 of the radio calls of the crews who made it up there. Audio Excerpts of Firefighter Radio Transmissions in South Tower

Oh and I mis-remembered it was the 78th floor not the 85th.

Here is an transcript of one of the key transmissions:

9:52 a.m.

Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Battalion Seven Alpha."

"Freddie, come on over. Freddie, come on over by us."

Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones."

Ladder 15: "What stair are you in, Orio?"

Battalion Seven Aide: "Seven Alpha to lobby command post."

Ladder Fifteen: "Fifteen to Battalion Seven."

Battalion Seven Chief: "... Ladder 15."

Ladder 15: "Chief, what stair you in?"

Battalion Seven Chief: "South stairway Adam, South Tower."

Ladder 15: "Floor 78?"

Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four, numerous civilians, we gonna need two engines up here."

Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're on our way."

9:58 a.m. (Tower collapses at 9:59)

Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15."

(End of Tape)

End of heroes murdered by Bush, Cheney, and their masters. DAMN THE BASTARDS!

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

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