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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
Source: whatreallyhappened.com
URL Source: http://whatreallyhappened.com/conte ... world-trade-center-catastrophe
Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
Views: 12285
Comments: 690

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

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Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS.

This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.

Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature.

This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

See Thermite and the WTC Collapses

Posted on Apr 04, 2009 at 07:49

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#4. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower...

Putting aside the absolutely incredulous nature of that statement, where was this Manhattan resident?

two the next day, and a fourth about a week later.

From where?

war  posted on  2009-04-05   12:23:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#4)

Putting aside the absolutely incredulous nature of that statement, where was this Manhattan resident?

Why is it incredulous? Aren't you interested in knowing all the reasons why these magnificient buildings whose plans were passed with flying colors by the PTB had such an Achilles Heel?

And who knows.... maybe that Manhattan resident was already making plans for his next big sale.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-05   12:33:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mininggold (#5)

Aren't you interested in knowing all the reasons why these magnificient buildings whose plans were passed with flying colors by the PTB had such an Achilles Heel?

The Achilles heel being planes impacting at over 400MPH, exploding and then multi floor fires burning out of control? Chyea...whoda thought? Obviously not the people who sent the planes into the buildings...

war  posted on  2009-04-05   12:54:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#8)

and then multi floor fires burning out of control?

Yeah, and just moments before the collapse, a veteran battalion chief who would know what to look for if danger was present, calls down:

Critter  posted on  2009-04-05   12:57:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Critter (#11)

One floor which was below impact is indicative of the rest including the impact zone? How many more pictures of flames shooting out of WTC must I post before you folks get it?

war  posted on  2009-04-05   13:12:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war (#19)

before you folks get it?

According to the Journal of Australian Fire Investigators, kerosene ignites at around 444°F. The temperature that the fire will eventually reach depends on both the combustion rate (based on O2) and the rate at which heat can be disbursed in the given scenario. Again, any firefighter can explain from experience and training that the black, sooty smoke (like that found on 9/11 at the WTC towers) were O2 deprived. Again, please contact professionals to verify this if you wish. In an oxygen deprived environment, higher temperatures cannot be reached. You can test this yourself by comparing a match in the open vs. a match in a bottle with a very small hole.

T.C. Forensic: Article 10 - PHYSICAL CONSTANTS FOR INVESTIGATORS
PHYSICAL CONSTANTS FOR INVESTIGATORS. by Tony Cafe. Reproduced from "Firepiont" magazine - Journal of Australian Fire Investigators. ...
www.tcforensic.com.au/docs/article10.html - 69k - Cached

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-05   13:18:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: TwentyTwelve (#24)

according to you these fires are oxygen deprived:

war  posted on  2009-04-07   15:07:00 ET  (3 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: war (#89)

They are.

There is not enough oxygen in proximity to the flame to support efficient combustion.

If you knew anything... if you SHIT about anything, you'd know that. Why the fuck do you think lots of oxygen under pressure is required to get an acetylene torch to get hot enough to cut and weld?

Critter  posted on  2009-04-07   15:12:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Critter (#90)

Oxyegen dDeproved?

All of those fires will be out in a couple of minutes, right? Oxygen deprived that they are...

war  posted on  2009-04-07   15:37:04 ET  (3 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: war (#92)

All of those fires will be out in a couple of minutes, right? Oxygen deprived that they are...

These are pics of black rubber tires burning.

Duh.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-07   16:43:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: TwentyTwelve (#94)

These are pics of black rubber tires burning.

So...not only does smoke turn black when it's oxygen deprived it also reflects the color of what is being burned...

Someone forgot to tell this red car that [or maybe it was black but then painted red in a massive scheme to defraud the Laws of Smoke by The Those Same Dark Forces Which Were Behind 9/11?]:

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:13:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: war (#116)

Hey dipshit, I bet dollars to donuts that the roof of that car didn't collapse.

Critter  posted on  2009-04-08   12:37:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Critter (#120)

Hey Moonbat...I'll bet you dollars to donuts that fire ISN'T oxygen starved...

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:38:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: war (#122)

...I'll bet you dollars to donuts that fire ISN'T oxygen starved...

There was oil and tires in the WTC buildings?

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-08   12:42:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: mininggold (#127)

There was oil and tires in the WTC buildings?

There were petroleum based products most certainly.

Yea...you walked right into it...your other two Moonies, I'll give them credit for being smart enough to NOT ask that question...then there's you...

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:47:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: war (#129)

There were petroleum based products most certainly.

Yea...you walked right into it...your other two Moonies, I'll give them credit for being smart enough to NOT ask that question...then there's you...

The burning parts of the car is made up almost entirely of petroleum based products.... BUT You don't seem to realize that as soon as you have to resort to name calling YOU HAVE LOST.

When will YOU ask for a full investigation? Especially since you claim to work in an area full of buildings ready to collapse from small office fires.

LOLOLOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-08   12:54:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: mininggold (#133)

Especially since you claim to work in an area full of buildings ready to collapse from small office fires.

Is calling you a goddammed liar name calling or truth?

war  posted on  2009-04-08   13:03:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: war (#139)

Is calling you a goddammed liar name calling or truth?

What did I lie about? You not calling for a thorough investigation?

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-08   13:06:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: mininggold (#144)

What did I lie about?

"Especially since you claim to work in an area full of buildings ready to collapse from small office fires."

I've never made the claim that these buildings are ready to collapse form small offioce fires. And, if you are claimiong that the fires in WTC were only small office fires then you are lying again.

war  posted on  2009-04-08   13:13:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: war (#147)

I've never made the claim that these buildings are ready to collapse form small offioce fires. And, if you are claimiong that the fires in WTC were only small office fires then you are lying again.

Then how did that WTC7 building collapse? Was it made out of wood? All you have to do is show us one example where a similiar building under similiar circunstances came a tumbling down in similiar fashion. One itty bitty example. Come on.... you are good for it.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-08   13:18:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: mininggold (#151)

Then how did that WTC7 building collapse?

An out of control fire across most of its floors compromised a major support beam which, in turn, caused cascading failure which resulted in the building's collapse... Thanks for asking...

war  posted on  2009-04-08   13:21:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: war, mininggold (#154)

An out of control fire across most of its floors compromised a major support beam which, in turn, caused cascading failure which resulted in the building's collapse...

Bullshit. You posted a picture of Building FIVE which WAS experiencing a major fire, trying to pass it off as Building SEVEN. Building SEVEN had a very minor fire yet collapsed, whereas Building FIVE had a seriously out of control fire yet DIDN'T collapse.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-08   20:25:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: FormerLurker, mininggold, Litus, Wudidiz, war (#173)

To war: Bullshit. You posted a picture of Building FIVE which WAS experiencing a major fire, trying to pass it off as Building SEVEN. Building SEVEN had a very minor fire yet collapsed, whereas Building FIVE had a seriously out of control fire yet DIDN'T collapse.

war has lost all credibility.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-08   20:28:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, war (#174)

You posted a picture of Building FIVE which WAS experiencing a major fire, trying to pass it off as Building SEVEN. Building SEVEN had a very minor fire yet collapsed, whereas Building FIVE had a seriously out of control fire yet DIDN'T collapse.

war has lost all credibility.

Why would he have done that?

litus  posted on  2009-04-08   20:48:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: litus, FormerLurker, wudidiz (#179)

You posted a picture of Building FIVE which WAS experiencing a major fire, trying to pass it off as Building SEVEN. Building SEVEN had a very minor fire yet collapsed, whereas Building FIVE had a seriously out of control fire yet DIDN'T collapse.

war has lost all credibility.

Why would he have done that?

He got caught trying to fool us.

He underestimated us.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-08   20:57:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, wudidiz (#180)

He got caught....He underestimated us.

Sooner or later, that's what happens to all .gov shills.

litus  posted on  2009-04-08   20:59:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: litus, FormerLurker, wudidiz (#181)

Sooner or later, that's what happens to all .gov shills.

Not just Government shills.

Be on the lookout for Media and Federal Reserve shills as well.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-08   21:02:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, wudidiz (#182)

Be on the lookout for Media and Federal Reserve shills as well.

That's true. I've already had to deal with at least one Federal Reserve shill; but it may likely have been at least three.

They also resorted to lying and outright intentional misrepresentations of others' statements and comments.

litus  posted on  2009-04-08   21:05:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: litus, TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, wudidiz, christine (#183)

Be on the lookout for Media and Federal Reserve shills as well.

I'd love to have access to the server logs for this site. hehehe

Critter  posted on  2009-04-08   22:17:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Critter, christine (#184)

I'd love to have access to the server logs for this site. hehehe

Christine...feel free to display one of miue...also, anyone who listens to NPR, I will be on ATC this afternoon discussing credit market condidtions,

war  posted on  2009-04-09   9:21:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: war (#190) (Edited)

also, anyone who listens to NPR, I will be on ATC this afternoon discussing credit market condidtions,

what time and what does ATC stand for?

christine  posted on  2009-04-09   10:26:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: christine (#205)

what time and what does ATC stand for?

"Attack The Capitalists".

TooConservative  posted on  2009-04-09   10:30:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: TooConservative (#208)

"Attack The Capitalists".

Hilarious...their coverage of this last fall bears that out...I'll give them credit though...they've yet to incorrectly slant any story in which I've contributed and I get a tranbscript every time...

war  posted on  2009-04-09   10:34:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: war (#210)

So you are a financial guru who thinks he knows something about physics?

THINK is the key word, you have demonstrated on this site you don't know the first thing about physics. Did you short AA and UAL stock before 9/11? I bet you did, why else would you be so defensive of the obvious government lies concerning 9/11?

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-09   10:39:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: RickyJ (#211)

So you are a financial guru who thinks he knows something about physics?

I'm not a guru. I observe and report. Making financial decisions is not a hard proposition...in times of uncertainly stay in cash. If you take risk, make suire that it is in something that is a) people need and b) is in short supply. Just remember that for every dollar that you bet there is a dollar being taken out that beleives you to be wrong.

As for physics...I paid attention in class...

war  posted on  2009-04-09   10:53:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: war (#213)

As for physics...I paid attention in class...

Physics isn't the class where you played dodge ball you moron.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-09   11:44:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: FormerLurker, war (#215)

As for physics...I paid attention in class...

Physics isn't the class where you played dodge ball you moron.

war put you on bozo.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-09   11:46:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: TwentyTwelve (#216)

war put you on bozo.

ROFLMAO...he STILL doesn't get it?

war  posted on  2009-04-09   12:48:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: war (#223)

war put you on bozo.

ROFLMAO...he STILL doesn't get it?

So you don't even have the ability to just ignore a poster when they disagree with you? My, my... such a fragile creature. I think until NewYawkers demand a thorough investigation I shall do everything in my ability to alert others.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-09   12:55:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: mininggold (#229)

So you don't even have the ability to just ignore a poster when they disagree with you?

My, my... such a fragile creature.

Talk to your shill buddies who have me on bozo...

war  posted on  2009-04-09   12:59:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: war (#232)

Talk to your shill buddies who have me on bozo...

None are my "buddies" except they share my disdain for your tactics and all seem to be posting to you which means they haven't bozo'd you.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-09   13:06:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: mininggold (#234)

and all seem to be posting to you which means they haven't bozo'd you.

Rotara, randge, Deffenbach have all claimed to have bozo'd me. OI did as well but then continued to respond to me.

I was pointing out that you seem to be selective in your criticism. Fuckk seem to be...you ARE selective.

war  posted on  2009-04-09   13:29:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#245. To: war, Rotara, randge, Deffenbach, Original Intent (#237)

Rotara, randge, Deffenbach have all claimed to have bozo'd me. OI did as well but then continued to respond to me.

I was pointing out that you seem to be selective in your criticism. Fuckk seem to be...you ARE selective.

Yet none seem to show much interest on this thread. Another distraction and a name calling opportunity. They are just playing with you as you try to play with them. Tit for Tat. LOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-09   13:46:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: mininggold (#245)

Yet none seem to show much interest on this thread.

Um...they have me bozo'd....did you miss that part? How can they respond to me if they don't see me?

war  posted on  2009-04-09   13:59:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: war (#248)

They aren't on this particular thread and I have no idea about the other threads. I have other things to do than hang out on all the threads to see which posters are posting to you. Geesh get a life.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-09   14:18:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: mininggold (#253)

I have other things to do than hang out on all the threads to see which posters are posting to you. Geesh get a life.

So...you have no problem yelling at me for bozo'ng someone but can;t be bothered with those who bozo me all the while painfullyh unaware of a search function.

war  posted on  2009-04-09   18:59:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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