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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
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Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
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Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic. Webmaster's Commentary: Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS. This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center. Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature. This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center. See Thermite and the WTC Collapses Posted on Apr 04, 2009 at 07:49 Tags: * 911
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#4. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)
Putting aside the absolutely incredulous nature of that statement, where was this Manhattan resident? two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. From where?
Why is it incredulous? Aren't you interested in knowing all the reasons why these magnificient buildings whose plans were passed with flying colors by the PTB had such an Achilles Heel? And who knows.... maybe that Manhattan resident was already making plans for his next big sale.
The Achilles heel being planes impacting at over 400MPH, exploding and then multi floor fires burning out of control? Chyea...whoda thought? Obviously not the people who sent the planes into the buildings...
Yeah, and just moments before the collapse, a veteran battalion chief who would know what to look for if danger was present, calls down:
One floor which was below impact is indicative of the rest including the impact zone? How many more pictures of flames shooting out of WTC must I post before you folks get it?
According to the Journal of Australian Fire Investigators, kerosene ignites at around 444°F. The temperature that the fire will eventually reach depends on both the combustion rate (based on O2) and the rate at which heat can be disbursed in the given scenario. Again, any firefighter can explain from experience and training that the black, sooty smoke (like that found on 9/11 at the WTC towers) were O2 deprived. Again, please contact professionals to verify this if you wish. In an oxygen deprived environment, higher temperatures cannot be reached. You can test this yourself by comparing a match in the open vs. a match in a bottle with a very small hole. T.C. Forensic: Article 10 - PHYSICAL CONSTANTS FOR INVESTIGATORS
according to you these fires are oxygen deprived:
They are. There is not enough oxygen in proximity to the flame to support efficient combustion. If you knew anything... if you SHIT about anything, you'd know that. Why the fuck do you think lots of oxygen under pressure is required to get an acetylene torch to get hot enough to cut and weld?
Oxyegen dDeproved? All of those fires will be out in a couple of minutes, right? Oxygen deprived that they are...
These are pics of black rubber tires burning. Duh.
So...not only does smoke turn black when it's oxygen deprived it also reflects the color of what is being burned... Someone forgot to tell this red car that [or maybe it was black but then painted red in a massive scheme to defraud the Laws of Smoke by The Those Same Dark Forces Which Were Behind 9/11?]:
Hey dipshit, I bet dollars to donuts that the roof of that car didn't collapse.
Hey Moonbat...I'll bet you dollars to donuts that fire ISN'T oxygen starved...
There was oil and tires in the WTC buildings?
There were petroleum based products most certainly. Yea...you walked right into it...your other two Moonies, I'll give them credit for being smart enough to NOT ask that question...then there's you...
Yea...you walked right into it...your other two Moonies, I'll give them credit for being smart enough to NOT ask that question...then there's you... The burning parts of the car is made up almost entirely of petroleum based products.... BUT You don't seem to realize that as soon as you have to resort to name calling YOU HAVE LOST. When will YOU ask for a full investigation? Especially since you claim to work in an area full of buildings ready to collapse from small office fires. LOLOLOLOL
Is calling you a goddammed liar name calling or truth?
What did I lie about? You not calling for a thorough investigation?
"Especially since you claim to work in an area full of buildings ready to collapse from small office fires." I've never made the claim that these buildings are ready to collapse form small offioce fires. And, if you are claimiong that the fires in WTC were only small office fires then you are lying again.
Then how did that WTC7 building collapse? Was it made out of wood? All you have to do is show us one example where a similiar building under similiar circunstances came a tumbling down in similiar fashion. One itty bitty example. Come on.... you are good for it.
An out of control fire across most of its floors compromised a major support beam which, in turn, caused cascading failure which resulted in the building's collapse... Thanks for asking...
Bullshit. You posted a picture of Building FIVE which WAS experiencing a major fire, trying to pass it off as Building SEVEN. Building SEVEN had a very minor fire yet collapsed, whereas Building FIVE had a seriously out of control fire yet DIDN'T collapse.
war has lost all credibility.
war has lost all credibility. Why would he have done that?
war has lost all credibility. Why would he have done that? He got caught trying to fool us. He underestimated us.
Sooner or later, that's what happens to all .gov shills.
Not just Government shills. Be on the lookout for Media and Federal Reserve shills as well.
That's true. I've already had to deal with at least one Federal Reserve shill; but it may likely have been at least three. They also resorted to lying and outright intentional misrepresentations of others' statements and comments.
I'd love to have access to the server logs for this site. hehehe
Christine...feel free to display one of miue...also, anyone who listens to NPR, I will be on ATC this afternoon discussing credit market condidtions,
Does NPR still stand for Neocon Propaganda Relay? You must enjoy undermining your own credibility.
You obviously don't listen.
I listened when NPR was pumping out the Neocon propaganda via its affilitions with The Weekly Standard. You obviously don't pay attention to what's in front of your face. Don't forget to get dressed up for the radio.
I listen to NPR daily...I find it hilarious that NPR was attacked for biased reporting against Booosh's Folly in Iraq. NPR is routinely accused of having a pro-Palestinian bias and is often called by the Israeli/Zionist media as being the most anti-Israel news outlet in the US. IN other words, you're opinion is nowhere based in reality.
NPR has always been in favor of the "war on terror" as it was carried into Iraq and Afghansitan. It's one of THE central Neocon/Neolib ideologies. If it quacks like a duck... NPR rountinely has Bill Kristol, Fred Barnes and other human waste on as commentators. Are there any other murderers and their accomplices that you wish to defend?
Not only as a listern of NPR but As a friend of Adam Davidson who was NPR's reporter in Iraq I can tell you that is 100% false. NPR rountinely has Bill Kristol, Fred Barnes and other human waste on as commentators. ROFLMAO...they also did a series on Louis Farrakhan and Mariam Sobh is an NPR reporter. Just Say No to NPR Recent boycotts of media outlets, launched mostly by grassroots groups concerned about anti-Israel bias, have prompted criticism from a few establishment Jewish organizations that have argued that because the Jews and Israel have been the victims of boycotts, the tactic is illegitimate and immoral. But these arguments ignore certain basics. First, to state the obvious, the current campaigns bear no resemblance to the protracted, global economic, diplomatic and cultural exclusions Israel has suffered or the ferocious campaigns against Jewish businesses in Nazi-era Europe. Those anti-Jewish boycotts, dictated by ruling regimes, were rooted in a hateful bigotry and aimed at the elimination of a people and a state, not the redress of an offending policy. The protests against The New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Philadelphia Inquirer and others are initiatives by individuals, not governments, and are freely joined by anyone who accepts the arguments of the campaigners. No one is compelled to end their subscriptions to the publications, just as no one, surely, is compelled to continue them. Boycotts in the American context have long been a tool of consumer complaint and social policy activism, sometimes an effective one -- often not -- and Jews, including Jewish organizations, have participated in them. For example, was the Central Conference of American Rabbis wrong in 1985 to call on 1.2 million Reform congregants to boycott nonunion California grapes in support of Cesar Chavez's campaign? From another perspective, to say that boycotts should not be used by Jews because Jews have been the victims of boycotts makes no more sense than to assert that because guns and soldiers have been wielded against Jews and Israel, Jews should forego their use, no matter what the provocation, in order to present a more pure moral face to the world. Although the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA) has not initiated or sponsored boycott campaigns against any national or regional newspapers, there has been a call to suspend financial support for one media outlet until its harmful anti-Israel bias ends. That institution is National Public Radio (NPR). The network receives tax support, both directly and indirectly, via the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and aggressively solicits financial gifts from listeners and underwriters (who are actually business and institutional advertisers). A matrix of local and national boards cultivates supporters and helps advance NPR's fundraising efforts. Are Jewish listeners under obligation to provide both the involuntary support to NPR, entailed in their taxes allotted to the network, and additional donations in response to the constant entreaties by station managers and NPR officials? Are Jewish listeners duty bound to send checks to help finance programming in which grave allegations are routinely leveled at Israel without a single Israeli given the right of response? The many examples of distortion are far too numerous to recite in detail. A July 1 program, for instance, charged that Israel continuously shoots at innocent sewer repairmen in Gaza, thwarting efforts to assure healthy conditions for Palestinian civilians. So relentless are Israeli snipers, according to NPR, that international "activists" must position themselves, physically, between the shooters and the repairmen. Palestinian "human rights" and medical workers all join in attesting to the allegedly malevolent role of Israel. But not a single Israeli is permitted to answer the charges. Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesmen categorically denied the NPR claims to CAMERA and said, moreover, NPR had never contacted them about the story. The IDF spokesman also noted that the network's reporters rarely call to fact check allegations made against the military. Under public pressure in this instance, NPR posted a note on its Web site expressing "regrets" for failing to include any Israeli spokesman. The regrets were not broadcast on-air where a substantial audience might hear them, nor was there a follow-up story presenting the Israeli version of events. The "regrets" were evidently insincere since one-sided, accusatory coverage continues unabated. An especially incendiary story on Aug. 31 by Anne Garrels included six Palestinians leveling charges against Israel for allegedly depriving them of needed water in West Bank towns. No Israeli or pro-Israel voices were included. Garrels herself added to the deceptions, twice stating that only half of West Bank towns have tap water. What she neglected to mention is that all towns were given the option of being connected to the National Water Carrier to tap water, but some refused on political grounds, refusing to recognize Israel's presence in any guise. That excluded bit of information would have radically altered Garrels' story of blameless Palestinians victimized by stone-hearted Israelis. But her reports are typically short on factual accuracy and long on emotive editorializing. Troubled at rising public dismay over the coverage, NPR executives have responded, not by rigorous attention to assuring every broadcast is balanced and accurate, but by hiring a PR firm to help spin their image in the Jewish community. All the while, the distortions continue. A media outlet unwilling to address serious substantive complaints through the normal channels of interaction for more than a decade, which is the case with NPR, cannot expect the Jewish community to underwrite unfair and damaging distortions. What self-respecting people supports its own defamation? Anchor Melissa Block: "In Washington today, active-duty members of the U.S. armed services presented more than a thousand appeals for redress to Congress. These are letters urging U.S. disengagement from Iraq.Here's NPR's David Welna from the Capitol." Welna: "Liam Madden is a 22-year-old sergeant in the U.S. Marine Corps who two years ago did combat duty in Iraq's turbulent Anbar province. Today, Sergeant Madden donned a civilian coat and tie in a chilling wind outside the Capitol so he could formally present 1,028 appeals for redress from other active-duty forces, 60 percent of them fellow Iraq veterans. Sgt. Liam Madden: "We are asking Congress to stop the funding for the Iraq War. We will not tolerate the rhetoric that we must support the troops by funding a war that puts them in harm's way. If you are funding a war that puts them in harm's way, you are not supporting them. You are endangering their lives for war that cannot be justified, have not been justified and will not work." Welna: "The actual text of the appeals for redress says, quote, ‘I respectfully urge my political leaders in Congress to support the prompt withdrawal of all American military forces and bases from Iraq. Staying in Iraq will not work and it's not worth the price,’ unquote.Twenty-four-year-old California Army National Guard Sergeant Jabbar Magruder, who also fought two years ago in Iraq, came in civilian dress as well and said he had not told his commander about the appeal he had signed." Sgt. Jabbar Magruder: "I know why I was fighting in Iraq. I wanted somebody to get this movement going. I wanted to see things here at home changed to get back to common sense and actually speak about, you know, bringing the troops home and actually getting out of Iraq. So I know that there are troops in Iraq right now who must see this on ASN and know that they are -- that we had their best interests in mind, especially since we put our boots on ground." Welna: "Ohio Democrat Dennis Kucinich, a long time opponent of the war and who's also a presidential contender, received the appeals for redress saying since lawmakers sent people to Iraq and asked them to die, those people have a right to ask why." Rep. Dennis Kucinich: "Article 3.5.7 of Department of Defense Directive 132.6 provides the right of service members to complain and request redress of grievances against action of their commanders. The action taken here by individual service members is an appeal for redress to end the war in Iraq. As you know, these troops have risked their careers to deliver this message to Congress." Welna: "But the identities of most of those who signed the appeals won't be revealed, according to Sergeant Madden, who co-founded the drive to collect signatures." Sgt. Madden: "Although what we're doing is public, the appeal goes directly -- it's a protected communications to the service members, members of Congress. Their chain of command does not know. Members around the military don't have to worry about reprisal." Welna: "And none of the three active-duty service members who were at the Capitol Hill event reported any reprisals from military superiors. Massachusetts Democrat Jim McGovern promised them Congress will act on their demands since, he said, President Bush won't." Rep. Jim McGovern: "What you need to do in the face of that kind of arrogance of power is you need to get Congress to stand up and to demand an end to this war. And if that means conditioning, withholding or cutting the funds, that's what we need to do." Welna: "That's exactly how Congress ended U.S. involvement in Vietnam 32 years ago. Vietnam veteran David Cline told the active-duty service members that their Vietnam-era counterparts had also signed petitions." David Cline, Vietnam veteran: "So we are seeing a repeat of history. The war in Iraq is a repeat of the Vietnam War, well I'm proud to say that are fighting men and women are repeating what we did back in the '60s and '70s in standing up for what's right." Welna: "The appeals for redress are to be delivered to the House clerk and referred to the proper committees.David Welna, NPR News, the Capitol."
Keep shooting yourself in the foot. It's entertaining.
Keep shooting yourself in the foot. It's entertaining. You have a problem with the Irish too?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestOne sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower...
#5. To: war (#4)
Putting aside the absolutely incredulous nature of that statement, where was this Manhattan resident?
#8. To: mininggold (#5)
Aren't you interested in knowing all the reasons why these magnificient buildings whose plans were passed with flying colors by the PTB had such an Achilles Heel?
#11. To: war (#8)
and then multi floor fires burning out of control?
#19. To: Critter (#11)
#24. To: war (#19)
before you folks get it?
PHYSICAL CONSTANTS FOR INVESTIGATORS. by Tony Cafe. Reproduced from "Firepiont" magazine - Journal of Australian Fire Investigators. ...
www.tcforensic.com.au/docs/article10.html - 69k -
#89. To: TwentyTwelve (#24)
#90. To: war (#89)
#92. To: Critter (#90)
#94. To: war (#92)
All of those fires will be out in a couple of minutes, right? Oxygen deprived that they are...
#116. To: TwentyTwelve (#94)
These are pics of black rubber tires burning.
#120. To: war (#116)
#122. To: Critter (#120)
#127. To: war (#122)
...I'll bet you dollars to donuts that fire ISN'T oxygen starved...
#129. To: mininggold (#127)
There was oil and tires in the WTC buildings?
#133. To: war (#129)
There were petroleum based products most certainly.
#139. To: mininggold (#133)
Especially since you claim to work in an area full of buildings ready to collapse from small office fires.
#144. To: war (#139)
Is calling you a goddammed liar name calling or truth?
#147. To: mininggold (#144)
What did I lie about?
#151. To: war (#147)
I've never made the claim that these buildings are ready to collapse form small offioce fires. And, if you are claimiong that the fires in WTC were only small office fires then you are lying again.
#154. To: mininggold (#151)
Then how did that WTC7 building collapse?
#173. To: war, mininggold (#154)
An out of control fire across most of its floors compromised a major support beam which, in turn, caused cascading failure which resulted in the building's collapse...
#174. To: FormerLurker, mininggold, Litus, Wudidiz, war (#173)
To war: Bullshit. You posted a picture of Building FIVE which WAS experiencing a major fire, trying to pass it off as Building SEVEN. Building SEVEN had a very minor fire yet collapsed, whereas Building FIVE had a seriously out of control fire yet DIDN'T collapse.
#179. To: TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, war (#174)
You posted a picture of Building FIVE which WAS experiencing a major fire, trying to pass it off as Building SEVEN. Building SEVEN had a very minor fire yet collapsed, whereas Building FIVE had a seriously out of control fire yet DIDN'T collapse.
#180. To: litus, FormerLurker, wudidiz (#179)
You posted a picture of Building FIVE which WAS experiencing a major fire, trying to pass it off as Building SEVEN. Building SEVEN had a very minor fire yet collapsed, whereas Building FIVE had a seriously out of control fire yet DIDN'T collapse.
#181. To: TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, wudidiz (#180)
He got caught....He underestimated us.
#182. To: litus, FormerLurker, wudidiz (#181)
Sooner or later, that's what happens to all .gov shills.
#183. To: TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, wudidiz (#182)
Be on the lookout for Media and Federal Reserve shills as well.
#184. To: litus, TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, wudidiz, christine (#183)
Be on the lookout for Media and Federal Reserve shills as well.
#190. To: Critter, christine (#184)
I'd love to have access to the server logs for this site. hehehe
#226. To: war (#190)
also, anyone who listens to NPR, I will be on ATC this afternoon discussing credit market condidtions,
#228. To: bluegrass (#226)
Does NPR still stand for Neocon Propaganda Relay?
#233. To: war (#228)
#240. To: bluegrass (#233)
I listened when NPR was pumping out the Neocon propaganda via its affilitions with The Weekly Standard. You obviously don't pay attention to what's in front of your face.
#243. To: war (#240)
#247. To: bluegrass (#243)
NPR has always been in favor of the "war on terror"
by Andrea Levin
October 4, 2002
#251. To: war (#247)
As a friend of Adam Davidson...
#261. To: bluegrass (#251)
As a friend of Adam Davidson...
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