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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
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Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
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Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic. Webmaster's Commentary: Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS. This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center. Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature. This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center. See Thermite and the WTC Collapses Posted on Apr 04, 2009 at 07:49 Tags: * 911
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#279. To: Original_Intent, Critter, Litus, FormerLurker (#277)
Too quick but acceptable if they are faced upward so they can stare at the blade and then watch it fall.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Good idea.
Oh...they've made it to 85 now...what's the over under on you Moonies having them making it to the roof? So, I guess I can now look forward to correcting the floor that FDNY made it to [78] as well as what a Code 1 1045 is [DEAD BODIES]...
Don't feel left out...nobody else did either...
Didn't you say they made it to 85?
It needs to have a dull blade, and not enough weight to make a clean cut the first time... or the second... or the third....
I know. Hanging really is too good for them.
#280. To: TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, Critter, FormerLurker (#279)
End of heroes murdered by Bush, Cheney, and their masters. DAMN THE BASTARDS!
Hanging really is too good for them.
#281. To: litus (#280)
End of heroes murdered by Bush, Cheney, and their masters. DAMN THE BASTARDS!
#282. To: TwentyTwelve (#281)
End of heroes murdered by Bush, Cheney, and their masters. DAMN THE BASTARDS!
#283. To: TwentyTwelve (#279)
#284. To: Original_Intent (#283)
Too quick but acceptable if they are faced upward so they can stare at the blade and then watch it fall.
#285. To: Original_Intent (#266)
As well some of the heroes of FDNY reached the 85th floor
#286. To: litus (#268)
I don't know if I knew about this.
#287. To: Original_Intent (#269)
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones."
#288. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#283)
Too quick but acceptable if they are faced upward so they can stare at the blade and then watch it fall.
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
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#289. To: Original_Intent (#275)
How many 9/11 funerals did you attend?
#290. To: christine (#265)
Aha...yer an hour behind assuming yer not 2 hours behind because you live in one of those counties that don't observe Daylight Time...
#291. To: war, Original_Intent (#289)
And your point is????
How many 9/11 funerals did you attend?
#292. To: war, Original_Intent (#289)
How many 9/11 Conferences have you attended? Were you at the one in in LA? Chicago? Dallas?
How many 9/11 funerals did you attend?
#293. To: TwentyTwelve, war, Original_Intent (#291)
And your point is???? You know how murderers sometimes go to the funerals of their victims....
How many 9/11 funerals did you attend?
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
Used Tires Amityville, Babylon, Lindenhurst
#294. To: war (#289)
Attending a funeral makes you an expert in physics and structural engineering? That's a new one. I got some erroneous info that the WTC towers had steel a reinforced concrete core. At least I think it was erroneous now. It appears it was dry wall instead. But that doesn't explain the towers collapse at all. In 1975 the North Tower burned for much longer and much more intensely than on 9/11, it didn't fall like a house of cards then.
How many 9/11 funerals did you attend?
God is always good!
#295. To: war, TwentyTwelve, Critter, christine, Wudidiz, litus, all (#287)
Didn't you say they made it to 85? I mis-spoke which I corrected in my next post (#269). You're reaching shill. Your disinformation tactics are now so obvious that even a freeptard might catch on. Of course what you are trying to do is distract from the key points of the transcript: Firefighters made it to the 78th floor. There were survivors amidst the alleged raging inferno which an experienced Battalion Chief described as "...two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines". Hardly a raging inferno hot enough to melt steel. And there were survivors to be evacuated from amidst that inferno hot enough to melt steel. You are really stupid shill if you think I will bite on your attempt to draw me into a diversion which takes away from the point you want people to miss. There were survivors. There were two small pockets of fire requiring only two hose teams. That is not a raging inferno hot enough to melt steel. Once again you are exposed as a liar and a shill. Who do you work for shill? How much do they pay you? Minimum wage? You're certainly not worth more than that.
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones."
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#296. To: Original_Intent, Uncle Bill (#295)
as Uncle Bill (where are you?) once wrote, anyone who peddles .gov's fairy tale is either brain dead or a shill.
#297. To: christine, Original_Intent, Uncle Bill, war (#296)
And the brain dead typically don't make up lies and act like raging psychopaths, unlike our little friend war...
as Uncle Bill (where are you?) once wrote, anyone who peddles .gov's fairy tale is either brain dead or a shill.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#298. To: Original_Intent (#266)
Very similar to the JFK assassination witnesses...
Oh, and one of the reasons that aid is being withheld from the heroes of the FDNY is that there are too many living witnesses who have gone on record saying there were explosions. The criminals who orchestrated this false flag terror crime WANT them to die as quickly as possible to get rid of inconvenient witnesses.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#299. To: Original_Intent (#266)
Those are all highly pertinent facts that the shills tap dance around and do whatever they can to obscure. They depend on the simple fact that for many, it's so much easier to go along with the herd than to actually think about the facts, as once one considers the facts, it becomes clear that we are STILL under constant threat of another series of attacks by those who TRULY perpetrated the 9/11 terror attacks, and that we have been killing people and losing American lives in the Middle East for NOTHING.
That is NOT a raging inferno it is a moderate building fire which would have been easily controlled. We know that the aircraft did not substantially damage the massively reinforced steel girder core (which was interlocked and so would have acted as a "heat sink" resulting in holding the temperature of the steel down below any of the critical points), that the fuel was burned up within ten minutes, and that the overbuilt cores of the building were more than adequate to sustain the level of proven damage and remain standing.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#300. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Critter, christine, Wudidiz, litus (#295)
And that is something we can NEVER expect to hear reported on television news. And for the brain dead, if it's not on TV news, then it mustn't be true because they truly think reporters and news editors are free to report on whatever they wish.
There were survivors amidst the alleged raging inferno which an experienced Battalion Chief described as "...two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines".
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#301. To: Original_Intent (#266) (Edited)
Since steel is a very good conductor of heat the whole building acted like one giant heat sink. Some warping of the steel could have occurred in the hottest spots given enough time, but 1 hour of smoldering fires wasn't enough time nor enough heat to cause warping. The 1975 fire in the North tower showed that it takes much more than one hour for any damage to occur from a raging fire in a steel framed skyscrapper, which it was. That fire was much hotter and lasted much longer than the fires on 9/11. Only minor warping resulted from that fire. But it didn't effect the structural integrity of the building in the slightest.
. We know that the aircraft did not substantially damage the massively reinforced steel girder core (which was interlocked and so would have acted as a "heat sink" resulting in holding the temperature of the steel down below any of the critical points)
God is always good!
#302. To: RickyJ (#301)
Yes, but you are not a trained WTC structural engineer, so you are not allowed to understand anything like simple physics. Now stop trying to trick us with logic, will ya? < /sarcasm >
Since steel is a very good conductor of heat the whole building acted like one giant heat sink. Some warping of the steel could have occurred in the hottest spots given enough time, but 1 hour of smoldering fires wasn't enough time nor enough heat to cause warping.
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#303. To: Original_Intent (#295)
The difference between 78 and 85 is 7 floors or half a football field, moron. YOuyr penchant for inaccuracy is well establised. OI: WTC 7 falling at free fall speed PROVES it was brought down by control demolition. ~versus~ OI: WTC& Falling at LESS THAN free fall speed PROVES that it was brought down by controlled demolition. My next question is: ...where's the other banjo?
You're reaching shill.
#304. To: Original_Intent (#295)
1045 Code one means DEAD fool...
There were survivors.
#305. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Critter, christine, Wudidiz (#300)
And that is something we can NEVER expect to hear reported on television news. And for the brain dead, if it's not on TV news, then it mustn't be true because they truly think reporters and news editors are free to report on whatever they wish. Fire Department Tape Reveals No Awareness of Imminent Doom ''We're gonna knock down some fire here in the B Stair,'' Lieutenant Leavey is heard telling one of his firefighters. ''We'll meet up with you. You get over to the A Stair and help out Chief Palmer.'' The time was 9:56 a.m. The firefighters had just arrived at a place where, 54 minutes earlier, many people had been waiting for elevators when the second plane came crashing through the building. Now Chief Palmer and Ladder 15 were surrounded by the wounded whom they hoped to evacuate. There were survivors amidst the alleged raging inferno which an experienced Battalion Chief described as "...two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines".
Ladder 15 had finally found the fire after an arduous climb to the 78th floor, according to the tape. They were in the B stairwell. On the other side of the fire were hundreds of people, blocked from fleeing by smoke and flame on the stairs. Chief Palmer was facing similar fires in the A stairwell, across the floor.
#306. To: war (#304)
1045 Code one means DEAD fool... Nice attempt at misdirection. NOT. Where's the raging inferno hot enough to melt steel? If it was hot enough to melt steel there would be no bodies to be recovered. There WERE survivors to be recovered. Remember the photo of the woman looking out the hole made by one of the planes? Per the Battalion Chief's report from the scene there were two small pockets of fire requiring just 2 hose teams. You are attempting to direct attention away from the key data. In other words you are using disinformation tactics. Why do you find it necessary to direct attention away from the data with disinformation tactics? Play Again?
There were survivors.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#307. To: War (#306) (Edited)
"Why do you find it necessary to direct attention away from the data with disinformation tactics?"
#308. To: litus, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Critter, christine, Wudidiz, Whore, war, all (#305)
Ladder 15 had finally found the fire after an arduous climb to the 78th floor, according to the tape. They were in the B stairwell. On the other side of the fire were hundreds of people, blocked from fleeing by smoke and flame on the stairs. Chief Palmer was facing similar fires in the A stairwell, across the floor. ''We're gonna knock down some fire here in the B Stair,'' Lieutenant Leavey is heard telling one of his firefighters. ''We'll meet up with you. You get over to the A Stair and help out Chief Palmer.'' The time was 9:56 a.m. The firefighters had just arrived at a place where, 54 minutes earlier, many people had been waiting for elevators when the second plane came crashing through the building. Now Chief Palmer and Ladder 15 were surrounded by the wounded whom they hoped to evacuate. Another thought which hit me from your post. It is another one of those "but the dog did not bark in the night" datums. There is no sound of the structure beginning to fail. There is no apparent awareness by experienced firefighters that the building is in danger of collapsing. No snapping girders, no creaking structure, nothing. The building just suddenly, without warning, decides to collapse straight down into roughly its own footprint including the massively reinforced H-beam core which Whore tried inititially to deny existed as the structure's primary load bearing support. That is an important datum, because in a normal failure there are going to be precursors to failure. There will be sound, falling walls, snapping girders, etc., ..., but THERE WAS NO SOUND INDICATING IMMINENT COLLAPSE even up to the last transmission at 9:58. The building just decided to collapse uniformly, symmetrically, and into its own footprint. We know the fire WAS MOST DEFINITELY NOT hot enough to melt steel or even soften it enough to fail. Certainly the entire floor was not on fire as witnessed by the firefighters being able to access it, walk around, and report the conditions on the scene back. The Battalion Chief reported that he needed only two teams to fight two small pockets of fire. That again is NOT a raging inferno. So, the question of course is what causes a building showing no signs of imminent collapse to suddenly collapse, uniformly, symmetrically, at near free fall velocity into its own footprint? What would cause that? Certainly not the nonexistent raging inferno. The only hypothesis that accounts for ALL the data is an intentional controlled explosive demolition. As with all 911 threads the valid data always leads back to that one hypothesis as the ONLY ONE which accounts for ALL of the data.
Fire Department Tape Reveals No Awareness of Imminent Doom
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#309. To: TwentyTwelve (#307)
At the very least we should be seeing wholesale retrofitting of high rises worldwide to prevent theses types of "accidents" in the future. That is... if they believe their own scenarios. lololol The followup behaviors always give them away.
"Why do you find it necessary to direct attention away from the data with disinformation tactics?"
#310. To: mininggold (#309)
They almost always incriminate themselves.
The followup behaviors always give them away.
#311. To: Original_Intent (#308)
Excellent observation and point! There should have been sounds indicative of imminent structural failure.
in a normal failure there are going to be precursors to failure. There will be sound, falling walls, snapping girders, etc., ..., but THERE WAS NO SOUND INDICATING IMMINENT COLLAPSE even up to the last transmission at 9:58. The building just decided to collapse uniformly, symmetrically, and into its own footprint.
#312. To: war (#303)
Certainly you can not be serious when you complain about being put on Bozo, when you try to squelch discussion in this fashion.
...where's the other banjo?
#313. To: war (#303)
Twenty Five Ways to Suppress The Truth: The Rules of Disinformation 4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues. I never said the building fell at free fall speed I said the building fell at near free fall speed which anyone with a copy of the video and a stopwatch can verify for themselves. Even you shill. 17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues. 18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#314. To: Original_Intent (#313)
WAR: They did not fall at free fall speed. OI: Gonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng! Wrong answer Private! Original_Intent posted on 2009-03-17 11:54:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply The building's collapse from initiation to completion took 6.6 seconds. A pure freefall from the buildings top, say if you dropped a Bowling Ball, is 6 seconds. So, the obvious conclusion is that the structure offered little or no resistance to the collapse of the structure. Original_Intent posted on 2009-03-26 13:50:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
I never said the building fell at free fall speed
#315. To: litus (#311)
Excellent observation and point! There should have been sounds indicative of imminent structural failure. Thanks. Yes, that is what struck me - one of those blindingly obvious things when you think about it but easy to miss because you are looking for something that did happen not something that did not happen.
in a normal failure there are going to be precursors to failure. There will be sound, falling walls, snapping girders, etc., ..., but THERE WAS NO SOUND INDICATING IMMINENT COLLAPSE even up to the last transmission at 9:58. The building just decided to collapse uniformly, symmetrically, and into its own footprint.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#316. To: Original_Intent (#306)
Half a football field away where FDNY could NOT get to. Where's the raging inferno hot enough to melt steel?
#317. To: War (#315)
Did you hear the sounds War? Did you?
There should have been sounds indicative of imminent structural failure.
#318. To: war (#314) (Edited)
WAR: They did not fall at free fall speed. OI: Gonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng! Wrong answer Private! Original_Intent posted on 2009-03-17 11:54:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply The building's collapse from initiation to completion took 6.6 seconds. A pure freefall from the buildings top, say if you dropped a Bowling Ball, is 6 seconds. So, the obvious conclusion is that the structure offered little or no resistance to the collapse of the structure. Original_Intent posted on 2009-03-26 13:50:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Lets see how good you are at elementary mathematics: Free Fall speed = 6 seconds. The collapse on the video I used took 6.6 seconds. Solve for "X".
i I never said the building fell at free fall speed
6.6 - 6.0 = X
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#319. To: war (#316)
That little fire caused this?: 
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