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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
Source: whatreallyhappened.com
URL Source: http://whatreallyhappened.com/conte ... world-trade-center-catastrophe
Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
Views: 10602
Comments: 690

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

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Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS.

This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.

Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature.

This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

See Thermite and the WTC Collapses

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#471. To: James Deffenbach (#453)

Was there some kind of super hurricane that day too? I don't recall any, at least not in New York.

It happened when the cameras weren't looking, just ask war...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-11   22:24:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#472. To: war (#461)
(Edited)

an 88 year old women racked with Parkison's who kept a wonderful household

So why do you bitch slap her war? Does it make you feel like a real man?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-11   22:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#473. To: war (#465)

You must mean its magical powers to avoid exploding as the plane is ripped to shreds but manages to explode AFTER and not INSIDE where the plane disintegrated but outside where the plane is not...

Hey shit for brains, it IGNITED inside the building but happened to be traveling over 500 mph so it continued on its way OUTSIDE the building along with other remnants of the planes.

Idiot.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-11   22:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#474. To: war (#467) (Edited)

You're not worth the spittle [Edited due to an over the top obscene remark by war]

AH, now we descend down to homo jokes. Are you a fag, or do you just play one on the Internet?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-11   22:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#475. To: war (#467)

war, that is really crude and disgusting. there's nothing litus has posted that warranted it either. you have an edit button.

christine  posted on  2009-04-11   23:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#476. To: war (#388) (Edited)

You're of the "mind" that only the north face of 2 and the south face of 1 was damaged?

Of course it was damaged. It's not magical damage that causes symmetrical collapse though, just damage due to a jet airplane crashing into it. Did it cover the whole side of one building, NO. Was the building over engineered to handle loads differently if there was damage to one side like on 9/11, Yep, sure was, it was designed just for that sort of exterior damage due to a plane crashing into it. Did the towers survive jet planes crashing into them at full speed and nearly full fuel? They sure did, they only collapsed when the remote control explosives were set off at precisely at the time the fire fighters reported there were only TWO pockets of fire and there were MULTIPLE survivors on a plane IMPACT floor. The "inferno" wasn't hot enough to kill these humans, but NIST and the government wants you to believe it was hot enough to bring the buildings down. They are full of shit and you know it stooge. Just like you are full of shit. No go back and tell your superiors we are too bright for you. You are tired of taking a whipping here and need a forum with less intelligent people on it to shill for them.

BeAChooser was a stooge as well, but he beat the heck out of you intellectually on this forum.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-12   0:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#477. To: RickyJ (#476)

BeAChooser was a stooge as well, but he beat the heck out of you intellectually on this forum.

Actually, in a lot of ways BAC steered myself and others towards the real data concerning 9/11, and was perhaps doing so not by accident, who knows...

If it wasn't for him I wouldn't have dug through so much material in order to prove him wrong.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-12   0:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#478. To: RickyJ, war (#476)

...Did the towers survive jet planes crashing into them at full speed and nearly full fuel? They sure did, they only collapsed when the remote control explosives were set off at precisely at the time the fire fighters reported there were only TWO pockets of fire and their were MULTIPLE survivors on a plane IMPACT floor. The "inferno" wasn't hot enough to kill these humans, but NIST and the government wants you to believe it was hot enough to bring the buildings down. They are full of shit...

bumping that!

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   0:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#479. To: FormerLurker, christine (#477)

Actually, in a lot of ways BAC steered myself and others towards the real data concerning 9/11, and was perhaps doing so not by accident, who knows...

If it wasn't for him I wouldn't have dug through so much material in order to prove him wrong.

That's what I used to say, even at the time, when i would read those 1000 post threads about the various details of 9/11.. the hacks/ government apologists did bring up a lot of points which were sometimes valid questions and led people to do more specific research. I dont generally have patience or attention span for such threads, but one such example i did research on at lp was fema being at ground zero on 9/10, when some hack claimed it was a lie,; one neocon site said it was an urban legend, involving the name kennedy and kenney, etc. and and i spelled it out, in the end the hack admiitted i was right and that fema did indeed admit it was there on 9/10. they actually thanked me for pointing the links out and admitted they were wrong.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
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Artisan  posted on  2009-04-12   0:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#480. To: christine (#475)

There was no reason to attack my mom.

war  posted on  2009-04-12   11:01:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#481. To: litus (#468)

yeah, the fuel burnt itself out within 10 minutes or so...

Who cares how long the fuel took to "burn out"? How long does charcoal lighter fluid take to "burn out"? You folks blather on about he "devastating" fire of 1975 in the WTC and of other high rises but suddenly in WTC on 9/11 the fuel is gone and there is no fire any where else.

Logic is once again your enemy...as for your assymetric nonsense...the plane impacted one side but affected an area much WIDER than its impact through its inertia and explosion...

war  posted on  2009-04-12   11:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#482. To: war (#481)

Who cares how long the fuel took to "burn out"?

Who cares about facts. War is on the case.

an area much WIDER than its impact through its inertia and explosion...

We'll never know quite how much was damaged, because the evidence was destroyed and carted away by your friends.

And by the way kero is not an explosive. It's at best a subsonic propellant. It doesn't rank with the crackerjack stuff that it took to bring these buildings down.

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randge  posted on  2009-04-12   11:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#483. To: war (#480)

there have been plenty of insults posted on this thread but yours was over the top and has been edited.

christine  posted on  2009-04-12   12:44:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#484. To: randge (#482)

Who cares about facts.

The FACT is, the fuel acted as an accelerant...

We'll never know quite how much was damaged, because the evidence was destroyed and carted away by your friends.

ROFLMAO...the building COLLAPSED...knowing how much was damaged by the impact and explosion and subsequent fires is pretty apparent...but if that isn't enough more than the impact zone of the towers was blown out...

war  posted on  2009-04-12   12:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#485. To: war, litus (#461)

Just living to eighty eight while having Parkinson's is quite an achievement. But really Litus knew nothing about this and you know it.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-12   12:56:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#486. To: war (#484)

You guys couldn't get it out of the country fast enough.

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randge  posted on  2009-04-12   13:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#487. To: randge, war (#482)

Who cares how long the fuel took to "burn out"?

Who cares about facts. War is on the case.

Exactly.

We'll never know quite how much was damaged, because the evidence was destroyed and carted away by your friends.

A point I have repeatedly made but which he repeatedly refuses to address and/or indicate is one of the strongest flaws in .gov's "findings of fact" being taken as credible.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   13:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#488. To: christine (#483)

There was no reason to mention my mom.

war  posted on  2009-04-12   13:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#489. To: mininggold (#485)

There was no reason to mention my mom.

war  posted on  2009-04-12   13:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#490. To: litus (#487)

because the evidence was destroyed

The evidence was destroyed when the building collpased...

war  posted on  2009-04-12   13:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#491. To: litus (#487)

The evidence was destroyed when the plane was ripped to shreds and exploded...

war  posted on  2009-04-12   13:48:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#492. To: mininggold, war (#485)

Of course he knows this. It was a lame excuse proffered after his over the top vulgarities.

War, I didn't "attack" your mother. What I said is such an old joke that no one could seriously take it as any kind of "personal" attack.

Had someone made the same "attack" about my mother, who didn't even live half as long as your mother, who still lives, it would not have had any affect whatsoever.

You're pathetic.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   13:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#493. To: litus (#492)

You're pathetic.

There was no reason to mention my mom.

war  posted on  2009-04-12   13:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#494. To: war (#493)

There's no reason for you to be a paid .gov shill.

Twice as pathetic.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   13:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#495. To: litus (#494)

There's no reason for you to be a paid .gov shill.

I'm not. I make my living in the private sector. Always have.

There's no reason for you to be stupid and not get paid. Look at Jonesie here...aka 2012...how much money have you sent him?

war  posted on  2009-04-12   14:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#496. To: war, TwentyTwelve (#495)

Look at Jonesie here...aka 2012...how much money have you sent him?

Ah...so that's your justification for including TwentyTwelve in your disgusting, crude, and vulgar comment to me? Because TT listens to someone who tells the truth, as opposed to you, who do nothing but post disinformation and lies?


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   14:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#497. To: litus (#492)

It was a lame excuse proffered after his over the top vulgarities.

Caught in yet another lie:

#461. To: litus (#443)

I think that's what the doc may have done to war's mother after he was born.... Why am I not surprosed that you reveal yourself as a low life piece of shit. If you were 1/3 of a man you'd keep it among men...instead you have to attack an 88 year old women racked with Parkison's who kept a wonderful household and raised 4 kids who all graduated form college...what an absolute scum sucking piece of eboli infested maggot puke you are...

war posted on 2009-04-11 20:30:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#467. To: litus (#463)

You're not worth the spittle that dribbles from your mouth. TTFN

war posted on 2009-04-11 20:36:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

As you can see it was "proffered" [sic] before.

war  posted on  2009-04-12   14:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#498. To: litus (#496)

TT listens to someone who tells the truth

Do you know how many times Jonesie has been caught lying?

war  posted on  2009-04-12   14:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#499. To: war (#488)

There was no reason to mention my mom.

Maybe you should put all your unmentionables on your poster page so we can all know which eggshells not to walk on.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-12   14:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#500. To: mininggold (#499)

What is so hard about keeping things between each other? There is no reason to attack spouses, parents, children etc. None. It's a basic rule of life among men...and if you think that I conjured this up just recently...here

My mom is not fair game and damn the consequences to me for defending that tenet...

war  posted on  2009-04-12   14:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#501. To: war, TwentyTwelve (#497)

As you can see it was "proffered" [sic] before.

You didn't mention your mother's health until after my comment to FL. It is you who is lying.

Furthermore, TwentyTwelve had absolutely nothing to do with my post, yet you included him into your foul and over the top, disgustingly crude attack against me.

My post was to FormerLurker and TT never even commented upon it.

You can't even tell the truth about the order of events on a thread which expose your lies but you expect to be taken as credible on other matters? Right!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   14:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#502. To: war (#500)

boo friggin hoo.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   14:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#503. To: litus (#501)

You didn't mention your mother's health

You'll never get it because you have no honor.

war  posted on  2009-04-12   14:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#504. To: war (#500)

at is so hard about keeping things between each other? There is no reason to attack spouses, parents, children etc. None. It's a basic rule of life among men...and if you think that I conjured this up just recently...

On these boards once a poster slings mud they and everything about them real or imagined are fair game. If you don't like it, don't sling the mud, it's really that simple.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-12   14:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#505. To: war (#503)

Stay off the internet if your feelings are so easily overcome when mere dust falls upon you.

OTOH, you sure don't have a problem with slinging mud.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   14:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#506. To: mininggold, war (#504)

If you don't like it, don't sling the mud, it's really that simple.

That's a fact.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   14:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#507. To: mininggold, litus (#504)

On these boards once a poster slings mud they and everything about them real or imagined are fair game.

Save the lecture...my days on the internet go back to 1995 to MSN and the Discuss and Debate bulletin board. I have 0 problem with being attacked personally.

That said, there is no reason to attack ANYONE'S mom. PERIOD. End of discussion. If you don't get it you never will. We don't share the same sense of honor. I'd like to say that it shocks me that we don't but, sadly, it doesn't.

Let me ask you a question...someone attacks you on a thread to another poster and doesn't PING you...is that a breach of posting etiquete? Of course it is...how then, is it okay to attack a guy's mom?

war  posted on  2009-04-12   16:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#508. To: litus (#505)

you sure don't have a problem with slinging mud.

Feel free to point out when that has extended to your family...

Thanks...

war  posted on  2009-04-12   16:50:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#509. To: war (#508)

get over yourself and your over the top faux "outrage" already.

'Your mom' jokes are so popular because they don't discriminate between the person you're telling the joke to. They are not created to be racial or sexist jokes and because of this can be enjoyed by everyone and told to anyone. Some of my favorites are: Your mama's so ugly that when you were born they slapped her!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   17:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#510. To: FormerLurker (#477) (Edited)

Well I did some equations to see how much air resistance would slow down just one floor of the WTC towers falling from the top of the building with nothing to collide with on the way down and I found out it was insignificant compared to falling in a vacuum. It was insignificant due to the significant mass of the floor. But just one collision would have slowed it down considerably. On 9/11 there were "allegedly" over 100 of those collisions, still it fell at close to free fall speed. That of course is impossible.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-12   17:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#511. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#477) (Edited)

NTSB REFUSES TO ELABORATE OR ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS....
[credit to Critter for passing on info. about this website]

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html

Questions For NTSB/FBI Regarding Flight Data Recorder Information

  1. The current FDR shows 480' MSL True Altitude, too high to hit the light poles. What are your findings of True Altitude at end of data recording 09:37:44. Why did you provide a Flight Data Recorder that shows the aircraft too high without a side letter of explanation? How did you come to your conclusion.

  2. What is the vertical speed at end of data recording :44. How did you come to your conclusion.

  3. What is the Absolute Altitude and end of data recording? How did you come to your conclusion.

  4. Why does the csv file show the altimeter being set in the baro cor column on the descent through FL180, but the animation altimeter does not show it being set?(This is a blatant cover-up to confuse the average layman in hopes no one would adjust for local pressure to get True Altitude. Too bad for them we caught it).

  5. Why do the current G Forces for the last minute of data correspond to the changes in vertical speed, yet at end of data :44-:45 it shows an increase in vertical speed never accounting for any type of level off to be level with the lawn as shown in the DoD video?

  6. Do you have any video showing a clear impact and/or of the plane on its approach to impact?

  7. Why does your animation show a flight path north of the reported flight path?

  8. Why are there no system indication of any impact with any object up to and after :44?

  9. Why does the csv file and animation show a right bank when the official report requires a left bank to be consistent with physical damage to the generator?

  10. How did you come to the conclusion of 09:37:45 as the official impact time?

  11. What is the exact chain of custody of the FDR? What date/time was it found? Where exactly was it found? Please provide documentation and names.

  12. Why does the hijack timeline show a 3 min interval for hijacking to take place? Why was Capt. Burlingame reported to have not followed protocol for the Common Strategy prior to 9/11?


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   17:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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