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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
Source: whatreallyhappened.com
URL Source: http://whatreallyhappened.com/conte ... world-trade-center-catastrophe
Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
Views: 12014
Comments: 690

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

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Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS.

This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.

Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature.

This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

See Thermite and the WTC Collapses

Posted on Apr 04, 2009 at 07:49

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Afuckingmazing how stupid you fucking people are.

The 1975 World Trade Center Fire

The February 13, 1975 North Tower Fire has been carefully hidden from you. Here are a few reports concerning it.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-05   13:24:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Contrary to the FEMA's hedged assertion that the core columns were freestanding, construction photographs clearly show that large horizontal beams cross-connected the core columns in a three-dimensional matrix of steel.

Those "cross beams" were actually the trusses.

Same old bullshit.

war  posted on  2009-04-05   13:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Afuckingmazing how stupid you fucking people are.

The Firefighters' Tapes ...

www.prisonplanet.com/multimedia_priorknowledge_firefighterstape.html - 41k - Cached

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-05   13:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

One floor...the 11th and there was no plane impact and explosiion and it diod not burn out of control...

Same bullshit.

war  posted on  2009-04-05   13:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

prisonplanet.com/articles...06/260906_b_Animation.htm

New WTC Animation: WTC Core

9/11 Blogger | September 26 2006

A more realistic representation of the backbone of the WTC. The building's backbone that NIST and FEMA ignored

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-05   13:27:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones."

Know what a 10-45 code one is?

war  posted on  2009-04-05   13:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A more realistic representation of the backbone of the WTC

Based upon what?

war  posted on  2009-04-05   13:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones."

Know what a 10-45 code one is?

F.D.N.Y. Radio Codes

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-05   13:34:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I know what it means, simp. I have FDNY as friends and relatives. It how I know that there is no gag order and it's how IN know that anyone using the bunker gear of their fallen comrades to make a buck is full of shit.

BTW, there is no such thing as "active thermite material" that can be found in residue. When thermite is "active" its burning.

war  posted on  2009-04-05   15:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You know you can't prove it.

I can prove it far more easily than you can. I've posted numerous interviews of firemen's accounts of the day and YOU YOURSELF have posted transcripts of FDNY exchanges form that day. If there's a gag order, shit for brains, why are these out there in the public domain?

There is also a documentary out there that was made AFTER 9/11 about FDNY and 9/11 in which NUMEROUS FDNY talk about their experiences.

So, yea, consider yourself weighed and measured as the stupid piece of cow chip that you are.

war  posted on  2009-04-05   15:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A more realistic representation of the backbone of the WTC.

Based upon what?

war  posted on  2009-04-06   10:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why does it appear you are personally invested in "proving" that .gov is honest to the American people (when it has proven itself otherwise), operates under the Rule of Law (when it has proven itself to act otherwise), beyond recriminations on any account concerning the events leading up to and concerning the day of 9/11 (which it has proven itself to be less than forthright and candid), and sets policies that are best for the American people and the country (which it, daily, proves it does otherwise: i.e., bailouts to banks, the Federal Reserve act, invasion by illegal aliens, NAFTA, CAFTA, etc.)?

Which .gov entity is paying you?, is what I want to know.

litus  posted on  2009-04-06   10:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If there's a gag order, shit for brains, why are these out there in the public domain?

The only thing worse than a shill is a dumb shill.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-06   11:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The only thing worse than a shill is a dumb shill.

Irony is obviously lost on you.

That said, if there's a gag order, shit for brains, why are these out there in the public domain?

war  posted on  2009-04-06   11:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why does it appear you are personally invested in "proving" that .gov is honest to the American people

Why would you take one instance and apply it universally?

That asked, nothing that you Moonbats have posted has stood up to scrutiny.

war  posted on  2009-04-06   11:53:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A more realistic representation of the backbone of the WTC.

Based upon what?

war  posted on  2009-04-06   11:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

nothing that you Moonbats have posted has stood up to scrutiny.

Speaking of painting with "broad brushes".

It's obvious that if what you claim, and what .gov claims was "crystal clear" and completely forthright and could withstand scrutiny, there would not exist duplicity in .gov statements and commentary, an unwillingness to shine a light into .gov's actions, its employees' statements and behaviors, compelling testimony and evidence which contradicts .gov claims, contradictory statements made by .gov and .gov employees, rush to eliminate evidence from a crime scene, not a presumption of "cause" for the collapse...which led to absolutely no investigation of steel support structures of the WTC7, etc.

litus  posted on  2009-04-06   12:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's obvious that if what you claim, and what .gov claims was "crystal clear" and completely forthright and could withstand scrutiny,

So far it has depsite what your short wave radio talking head says - this week anyway. His and the other Jones' "theories" change so often it's hard keeping up with them...

an unwillingness to shine a light into .gov's actions, its employees' statements and behaviors, compelling testimony and evidence which contradicts .gov claims, contradictory statements made by .gov and .gov employees, rush to eliminate evidence from a crime scene, not a presumption of "cause" for the collapse...which led to absolutely no investigation of steel support structures of the WTC7, etc.

And this is what I Mean...that babble may ahve some code word meaning to you Moonies but it makes 0 sense syntactically or semantically to us normal folk...

war  posted on  2009-04-06   12:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A more realistic representation of the backbone of the WTC.

Based upon what?

war  posted on  2009-04-06   12:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

rush to eliminate evidence from a crime scene, not a presumption of "cause" for the collapse...which led to absolutely no investigation of steel support structures of the WTC7, etc.

And this is what I Mean...that babble may ahve some code word meaning to you Moonies but it makes 0 sense syntactically or semantically to us normal folk...

That is why, I presume, you still have yet to answer the question I posed to you twice, now a third time:

War: Why would any other steel [from WTC7] need to be analyzed? [NOTE to War: No steel, whatsoever, from the WTC7 was analyzed]

You're joking, right? You didn't just ask "why should a criminal investigation investigate the location and debris within and surrounding the area of a crime scene?"

War: Nope. You are claiming that a controlled demo;lition occurred. To use one of your fellow Moonbat's phraseology...you can't even support he "effect" of a CD which makes your argument of "cause" moot.

So, you are admitting that the investigation into the fire and collapse of a skyscraper, which could have led to the deaths of hundreds of people, began, at the outset, with the presumption that the CRIME SCENE was not, in fact, a crime scene. The authorities (police, FBI, CIA, etc.) ruled out a crime had occurred from the outset, prior to conducting any investigations, gathering evidence, and speaking to witnesses could have occurred. From the moment of the CRIME...it was deemed "accidental" in nature, and the authorities subsequently only followed policy and procedures for accidents!

litus  posted on  2009-04-06   13:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What does analyzing the steel have to do with how the building fell?

/moron

war  posted on  2009-04-06   13:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What does analyzing the steel have to do with how the building fell?

/moron

So what would be the problem with analyzing the materials that might have been a contributing cause? Or are you saying the buildings were supposed to fail in this fashion? What is YOUR problem with a complete investigation? What are you afraid of?

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-06   14:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To War: What is YOUR problem with a complete investigation? What are you afraid of?

What is your true agenda?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-06   14:11:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What does analyzing the steel have to do with how the building fell?

Since when, in a criminal investigation involving the collapse of a building, explosions and fire does the investigation not include analyzing the support structures of said building....unless, of course, some kind of presumption was made prior to the investigation, which altered the normal course of investigations normally pursued for arson/criminal investigations.

I happen to know that arson investigations go much further into analyzing the "crime scene" than if it was presumed and believed, upon surface investigation that a crime was not, in fact, involved.

It was obvious to the entire world that a crime occurred on 9/11....except for the U.S. government, ATF, CIA, FBI, I guess.

litus  posted on  2009-04-06   14:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

*crickets*

litus  posted on  2009-04-06   15:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So what would be the problem with analyzing the materials that might have been a contributing cause?

They know what the contributing cause was...a fire that burned out of control for six hours compromised the buuilding's support structure..

Is your case that they set those thermite charges to activate after the building burned for six hours?

war  posted on  2009-04-07   8:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Since when, in a criminal investigation involving the collapse of a building, explosions and fire does the investigation not include analyzing the support structures of said building....unless, of course, some kind of presumption was made prior to the investigation, which altered the normal course of investigations normally pursued for arson/criminal investigations.

Is it your case that they set those thermite charges to activate after the building burned for six hours?

war  posted on  2009-04-07   8:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Huh?

war  posted on  2009-04-07   8:32:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A more realistic representation of the backbone of the WTC.

Based upon what?

war  posted on  2009-04-07   8:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

*crickets* Huh?

Third time asked, third time you've not answered.

Simple as that.

litus  posted on  2009-04-07   9:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Is it your case that they set those thermite charges to activate after the building burned for six hours?

That's not an answer to my question, which was:

Since when, in a criminal investigation involving the collapse of a building, explosions and fire does the investigation not include analyzing the support structures of said building....unless, of course, some kind of presumption was made prior to the investigation, which altered the normal course of investigations normally pursued for arson/criminal investigations.

Did you know that when an unattended body is found dead, an autopsy is performed, even when it appears obvious as to the cause of death (i.e., multiple stabbings, gunshot wounds, etc.)? Would a thorough investigation as to the cause of death not be performed, the investigator would be considered negligent in his/her duties if the investigator merely assumed or presumed the cause of death, relying only upon surface level observations.

This type of negligence appears to be what the "investigators" of WTC 7 are guilty. And, to me, it appears intentional.

litus  posted on  2009-04-07   9:51:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

based on claims that it was a "hollow" steel core....I didn't realize that "hollowness" could be grounds for steel melting at temperatures far below the temperature at which fuel burns.

litus  posted on  2009-04-07   10:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I came upon the following:

QUOTE

NIST: “Our study found that the fires in WTC 7, which were uncontrolled but otherwise similar to fires experienced in other tall buildings, caused an extraordinary event,” said NIST WTC Lead Investigator Shyam Sunder. “Heating of floor beams and girders caused a critical support column to fail, initiating a fire-induced progressive collapse that brought the building down.”

“Video and photographic evidence combined with detailed computer simulations show that neither explosives nor fuel oil fires played a role in the collapse of WTC 7,” Sunder said. The NIST investigation team also determined that other elements of the building’s construction—namely trusses, girders and cantilever overhangs that were used to transfer loads from the building superstructure to the columns of the electric substation (over which WTC 7 was constructed) and foundation below—did not play a significant role in the collapse.

According to the report, a key factor leading to the eventual collapse of WTC 7 was thermal expansion of long-span floor systems at temperatures “hundreds of degrees below those typically considered in current practice for fire resistance ratings." WTC 7 used a structural system design in widespread use.

A few reactions:

...in Appendix C of its World Trade Center Building Performance Study, FEMA claimed:

Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent intergranular melting, was readily visible in the near-surface microstructure. A liquid eutectic mixture containing primarily iron, oxygen, and sulfur formed during this hot corrosion attack on the steel... The severe corrosion and subsequent erosion of Samples 1 and 2 are a very unusual event. No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified.

This is the result of thermite, which, of course, does not "explode." The NIST has placed a nice strawman in their report they can use to dismiss any possibility of "controlled demolition" by saying there were no "explosions."

There's a variant of thermite called "thermate", hotter, faster and contains sulfur.

and a comment which sums up what many feel:

litus  posted on  2009-04-07   10:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I find it an insult to my common sense that people put forward theories about how ordinary fires could have caused the collapse of steel structures ...

The people who believe this are either really stupid or they are shills.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-07   10:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The people who believe this are either really stupid or they are shills.

Yep.

litus  posted on  2009-04-07   10:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They know what the contributing cause was...a fire that burned out of control for six hours compromised the buuilding's support structure..

Is your case that they set those thermite charges to activate after the building burned for six hours?

My case is for a thorough investigation, which includes analyses of materials. I really hope that there was no sabotaging of the buildings.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-07   11:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I find it an insult to my common sense that people put forward theories about how ordinary fires could have caused the collapse of steel structures ...

It's a wonder anyone will enter much less agree to work full time in buildings that have a predilection for total collapse in the event of fires that a good sprinkler system should have been able to put out. You would have thought a thorough investigation would have been a priority since similiar buildings are everywhere. Hmmmmmm

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-07   11:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

based on claims that it was a "hollow" steel core....I didn't realize that "hollowness" could be grounds for steel melting at temperatures far below the temperature at which fuel burns.

Who claimed that it was a hollow steel core and that steel melted?

war  posted on  2009-04-07   11:48:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I really hope that there was no sabotaging of the buildings.

Of course there was...the first came in from the north @ 429MPH and the second from the south @ 500+MPH...

war  posted on  2009-04-07   11:49:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Of course there was...the first came in from the north @ 429MPH and the second from the south @ 500+MPH...

Number 7 was hit? Make up your mind.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-07   11:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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