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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
Source: whatreallyhappened.com
URL Source: http://whatreallyhappened.com/conte ... world-trade-center-catastrophe
Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
Views: 11985
Comments: 690

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

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Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS.

This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.

Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature.

This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

See Thermite and the WTC Collapses

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#517. To: war (#516)

9/11 debunked

You're debunked. Go chase yourself back to LP...


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-12   23:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#518. To: war, litus, TwentyTwelve (#498)

Do you know how many times Jonesie has been caught lying?

2012 (whom you call Jonesie for some childish reason) has not lied. YOU on the other hand have been caught spewing lies and misrepresenting images of one building (WTC 5) on fire when the discussion was about a different building (WTC 7) trying to give the impression that it was WTC 7 engulfed in flames, where it was actually WTC 5.

THEN you deny you did it, where I then traced your posts and gave concrete evidence that you DID do as I allege.

You have tap danced all over this thread changing your story from one page to another. It's clear and evident that you contradict yourself and do not know what the hell you are talking about, yet you act condenscending to everyone here and resort to foul language and personal attacks when all else fails.

YOU are the liar here war.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-12   23:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#519. To: war, litmus (#497)

I think that's what the doc may have done to war's mother after he was born....

Oooh, he said that the doctor slapped your mom when you were born. That's not an attack on your mother, that's a humorous jab at YOU you dumb shit.

It's a joke that's older than you are.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-12   23:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#520. To: war, mininggold. christine (#500)

My mom is not fair game and damn the consequences to me for defending that tenet...

Nobody here attacked your mother you bloviating fool. You're acting like a prima donna trying to gain undeserved sympathy for yourself.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-13   0:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#521. To: RickyJ (#510)

On 9/11 there were "allegedly" over 100 of those collisions, still it fell at close to free fall speed. That of course is impossible.

Of course it is. Add to the equation the fact that there was a significant loss of mass since much of it was being pulverized and dispersed into the air, along with the fact the pulverization process removed the kinetic energy available to actually break the undamaged floors, and the collapse itself becomes rather improbable in the first place, if not outright impossible.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-13   0:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#522. To: litus (#513)

It's become obvious to me you hit a nerve FL when you posted the above, so war resorted to the typical .gov propagandist attempts to siderail and distract.

To that I say: good job!

That could very well explain war's tear jerking rendition of being offended due to a silly "doc slapped your mom when you were born" joke.

And thanks for the compliment... :)


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-13   0:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#523. To: litus, war, whore, FormerLurker, TwentyTwelve, christine, all (#509)

get over yourself and your over the top faux "outrage" already.

'Your mom' jokes are so popular because they don't discriminate between the person you're telling the joke to. They are not created to be racial or sexist jokes and because of this can be enjoyed by everyone and told to anyone. Some of my favorites are: Your mama's so ugly that when you were born they slapped her!

Faux outrage is correct.

Another common shill tactic. When caught in a semantic and logical bind divert the thread onto a more manageable tack.

This is right out of: Twenty Five Ways to Suppress The Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-13   0:14:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#524. To: war, litus (#514)

FL has been on bozo for weeks...

You're like a little kid thinking if he hides under his covers, those bad monsters in his closet will go away, then claiming he's a big brave dude because he fought off those nasty monsters in his closet.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-13   0:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#525. To: Original_Intent (#523)

Twenty Five Ways to Suppress The Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

Become incredulous and indignant.

It's obviously a set of rules that war lives by...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-13   0:18:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#526. To: war (#507)

Save the lecture...my days on the internet go back to 1995 to MSN and the Discuss and Debate bulletin board. I have 0 problem with being attacked personally.

I could care less if your posting days goes back to the ark. I'm starting to think that some of the other posters are right. It's YOU who wants to be the Prima Donna, either by hook or by crook.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-13   0:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#527. To: FormerLurker (#522)

That could very well explain war's tear jerking rendition of being offended due to a silly "doc slapped your mom when you were born" joke.

And thanks for the compliment... :)

Yes, the acting was exceptional!.

yw, FL.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   0:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#528. To: mininggold (#526)

I could care less if your posting days goes back to the ark.

lolol!!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   0:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#529. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker (#523)

This is right out of: Twenty Five Ways to Suppress The Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.

These shills must have a little black book, ready with examples.

You do notice he's used this one before....why, he even posted a link to his ready made, pat answer at LP!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   0:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#530. To: litus (#527)

Yes, the acting was exceptional!.

A total overreaction to your remark. He's manufacturing what I call a hissy fit so he can Bozo you and save face at the same time.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-13   0:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#531. To: mininggold (#530)

Ridiculous and transparent.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   0:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#532. To: litus (#527)

Yes, the acting was exceptional!.

war is certainly good at being a drama queen.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-13   1:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#533. To: FormerLurker (#532) (Edited)

war is certainly good at being a drama queen.

If that wasn't clear before, it most certainly is now!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   1:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#534. To: mininggold, litus, Original_Intent (#530)

A total overreaction to your remark.

After wading through your Nerd Clache this is the crux of the biscuit. THIS crap is the deflection; you Moonies are wasting bandwidth discussing your lack of honor. I do not attack people's families. Period.

war  posted on  2009-04-13   10:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#535. To: mininggold (#530)

fit so he can Bozo you

I would have done so by now...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   10:19:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#536. To: Critter (#517)

9/11 debunked

Does that somehow make time run differently?

war  posted on  2009-04-13   10:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#537. To: mininggold, litus, Original_Intent (#531)

Remarklable that all of a sudden the topic is my sense of honor and not the video that debunks your near "free fall speed" nonsense...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   10:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#538. To: war (#516)

This doesn't debunk anything.

The 9/11 commission report and the nist report give varying times for the collapses, all of which are too quick to have been a pancake collapse.

If it fell in 20 seconds as your video claims, that would be 11 seconds faster than freefall. So 90 floors provided 11 seconds of resistance to the collapse?

11 / 90 = .12

.12 seconds of resistance per floor? You're ok with this?

Like I said, go chase yourself back to LP, shill.


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-13   10:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#539. To: Critter (#538)

What % of WTC was air?

That asked you said: If it fell in 20 seconds as your video claims, that would be 11 seconds faster than freefall.

Do you know/understand the exponential factor of gravity? Do you also realize that WTC did not fall to ground but piled up on itself to almost 14 floors?

Your "story" is bullshit. It doesn't stand up to minimal scrutiny and it changes at every twist, e.g. It fell at near free fall speed!!!! So what if it fell at more than double free fall speed...!!!

That all said...the video makes no claims...it simply DOCUMENTS the collapse time...why is it that none of you Moonbats have done that? Because if you did then you'd have to cue the toilet flush...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   11:29:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#540. To: war (#539)

What % of WTC was air?

yeah? and you're an ugly bag of what % water? are you a blob pooled to the ground or can you stand erect, puff out you chest, and hurl derision and bull- shittery?

read the link and get back with rebuttal (something pertinent to the thread, but lacking the drama you crave, so maybe you won't touch it):


Wake Up and Smell the Aluminothermic Nanocomposite Explosives

As Documentation of Thermitic Materials in the WTC Twin Towers Grows, Official Story Backers Ignore, Deny, Evade, and Dissemble

The NIST investigation, having posted its Final Report with its absurd Building 7 joint-breaking-thermal-expansion theory in late 2008 and FAQ by Christmas, closed its doors before the independent researchers published their findings of active aluminothermic materials in WTC dust in a mainstream scientific journal; but not before they publicized findings of aluminothermic residues in the same dust samples; and not before they extracted from NIST a series of public statements, in press conferences and in written responses to requests for correction (RFCs), about the conduct of their inquiry into the cause of the skyscrapers' total destruction.

As a result, NIST spokespersons are on the record saying they did not test for pyrotechnics, and offering rationales for failing to perform such tests. Those rationale -- or rationalizations -- summarized toward the end of this essay, include the assertion that testing for pyrotechnics "would not necessarily have been conclusive". That is partially true: failing to find pyrotechnic residues wouldn't rule out demolition, since demolition might have been implemented using an untraceable fuel such as hydrogen gas. But finding abundant and distributed pyrotechnic explosive residues would conclusively favor demolition - - particularly given the persuasive deductive arguments showing that the features of the buildings' destruction are incompatable with a purely gravity- driven collapse.

The following timeline is narrowly focused on the emergence of public evidence indicating the use of aluminothermic pyrotechnics, ranging from incendiaries to high-explosives, in the destruction of the Twin Towers and Building 7, and on the way official bodies -- particular NIST -- treated that evidence.

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   12:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#541. To: postpunk (#540)

It's an issue created out of thin air...the thermite Moonbat crowd once used MIST's analysis of the dust to "prove" thermite ignoring that the matter used for thermite is common in building materials...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   12:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#542. To: postpunk (#540)

And, regardless, the Moonbats use thermite for screeching on about free fall or near free fall [pick a plan] when, in fact, they did not fall at anything resembling free fall or near free fall...once that is debunked, thermite becomes moot...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   12:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#543. To: postpunk (#540)

Wake Up and Smell the Aluminothermic Nanocomposite Explosives

Thermite is not an explosive...it's a cutter...thus thermite is ofen referred to as a "cutter charge"

war  posted on  2009-04-13   12:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#544. To: war (#541)

what? you're claiming thermite is a building material?

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   12:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#545. To: war (#542)

irrelevant and logically quite fucked

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   12:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#546. To: war (#543)

ah good; you've read the title.

try following each word after another until you reach the end.

be sure to have handy reference item to unpuzzle tricky words, and don't fail to click interior links for full comprehension.

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   12:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#547. To: postpunk (#545)

irrelevant and logically quite fucked

Nope...misrepresenting the actual fall time is crucial to the thermite blathering...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   12:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#548. To: war (#547)

misrepresenting the actual fall time is crucial

Misrepresenting the actual altitude of Flight 77 was crucial so .gov could claim that it hit poles that were in reality over 300 feet below the plane.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   12:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#549. To: postpunk (#544)

what? you're claiming thermite is a building material?

PLease...I know that you're grossly underinformed but don't ***think*** for one minute that includes me...

Jones tries to claim that his "independent" analysis of WTC dust found traces of "thermite" when, in fact, it's simply the chemicals that can be used in thermite. His analysis does not differ from NIST's...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   12:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#550. To: litus (#548)

Misrepresenting the actual altitude of Flight 77 was crucial so .gov could claim that it hit poles that were in reality over 300 feet below the plane.

Feel free to explain the plane parts at the Pentagon...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   12:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#551. To: war (#550)

Feel free to explain how a plane could take out poles that were 300 feet below it.

Feel free to explain how a plane, which appeared to be what was seen on the video, rolls across the grass to the Pentagon, but there's no marks or damage from said plane on the grass.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   12:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#552. To: war (#547)

what's crucial to you is plain to one sufficiently cynical, but irrelevant associations are still that--irrelevant associations betraying an agenda

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   12:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#553. To: war (#549)

bunkum--again, derision and bull-shittery does not rebuttal make

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   12:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#554. To: war (#550) (Edited)

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/pentalawn.html





Do you think just any lawn would hold up like this after a plane crashed on it?

This is how ordinary lawns look after commercial airliners crashed on them...


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   12:56:55 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#555. To: war (#550) (Edited)

"And the plane came through the first floor, right through Naval Ops..." - CNN



Purdue University's simulation of a Boeing 757 crashing into the Pentagon



Where's the damage to the roof????? to the grass??????

"The plane clipped light poles on nearby Route 27 and a backup generator at the Pentagon, bouncing off the ground before plowing into the building at a 45-degree angle." -USNews (12/10/01)


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   13:02:44 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#556. To: war (#549)

looky here! war's itty bitty bricks for building skyscrapers!

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   13:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#557. To: war (#539)

Do you also realize that WTC did not fall to ground but piled up on itself to almost 14 floors?

Show me a 14 floor high pile of pancaked floors.

If you can't do that, go screw.


Beware!
This guy may be prowling 4um:

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Critter  posted on  2009-04-13   13:21:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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