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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
Source: whatreallyhappened.com
URL Source: http://whatreallyhappened.com/conte ... world-trade-center-catastrophe
Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
Views: 11782
Comments: 690

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

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Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS.

This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.

Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature.

This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

See Thermite and the WTC Collapses

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#534. To: mininggold, litus, Original_Intent (#530)

A total overreaction to your remark.

After wading through your Nerd Clache this is the crux of the biscuit. THIS crap is the deflection; you Moonies are wasting bandwidth discussing your lack of honor. I do not attack people's families. Period.

war  posted on  2009-04-13   10:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#535. To: mininggold (#530)

fit so he can Bozo you

I would have done so by now...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   10:19:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#536. To: Critter (#517)

9/11 debunked

Does that somehow make time run differently?

war  posted on  2009-04-13   10:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#537. To: mininggold, litus, Original_Intent (#531)

Remarklable that all of a sudden the topic is my sense of honor and not the video that debunks your near "free fall speed" nonsense...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   10:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#538. To: war (#516)

This doesn't debunk anything.

The 9/11 commission report and the nist report give varying times for the collapses, all of which are too quick to have been a pancake collapse.

If it fell in 20 seconds as your video claims, that would be 11 seconds faster than freefall. So 90 floors provided 11 seconds of resistance to the collapse?

11 / 90 = .12

.12 seconds of resistance per floor? You're ok with this?

Like I said, go chase yourself back to LP, shill.


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-13   10:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#539. To: Critter (#538)

What % of WTC was air?

That asked you said: If it fell in 20 seconds as your video claims, that would be 11 seconds faster than freefall.

Do you know/understand the exponential factor of gravity? Do you also realize that WTC did not fall to ground but piled up on itself to almost 14 floors?

Your "story" is bullshit. It doesn't stand up to minimal scrutiny and it changes at every twist, e.g. It fell at near free fall speed!!!! So what if it fell at more than double free fall speed...!!!

That all said...the video makes no claims...it simply DOCUMENTS the collapse time...why is it that none of you Moonbats have done that? Because if you did then you'd have to cue the toilet flush...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   11:29:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#540. To: war (#539)

What % of WTC was air?

yeah? and you're an ugly bag of what % water? are you a blob pooled to the ground or can you stand erect, puff out you chest, and hurl derision and bull- shittery?

read the link and get back with rebuttal (something pertinent to the thread, but lacking the drama you crave, so maybe you won't touch it):


Wake Up and Smell the Aluminothermic Nanocomposite Explosives

As Documentation of Thermitic Materials in the WTC Twin Towers Grows, Official Story Backers Ignore, Deny, Evade, and Dissemble

The NIST investigation, having posted its Final Report with its absurd Building 7 joint-breaking-thermal-expansion theory in late 2008 and FAQ by Christmas, closed its doors before the independent researchers published their findings of active aluminothermic materials in WTC dust in a mainstream scientific journal; but not before they publicized findings of aluminothermic residues in the same dust samples; and not before they extracted from NIST a series of public statements, in press conferences and in written responses to requests for correction (RFCs), about the conduct of their inquiry into the cause of the skyscrapers' total destruction.

As a result, NIST spokespersons are on the record saying they did not test for pyrotechnics, and offering rationales for failing to perform such tests. Those rationale -- or rationalizations -- summarized toward the end of this essay, include the assertion that testing for pyrotechnics "would not necessarily have been conclusive". That is partially true: failing to find pyrotechnic residues wouldn't rule out demolition, since demolition might have been implemented using an untraceable fuel such as hydrogen gas. But finding abundant and distributed pyrotechnic explosive residues would conclusively favor demolition - - particularly given the persuasive deductive arguments showing that the features of the buildings' destruction are incompatable with a purely gravity- driven collapse.

The following timeline is narrowly focused on the emergence of public evidence indicating the use of aluminothermic pyrotechnics, ranging from incendiaries to high-explosives, in the destruction of the Twin Towers and Building 7, and on the way official bodies -- particular NIST -- treated that evidence.

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   12:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#541. To: postpunk (#540)

It's an issue created out of thin air...the thermite Moonbat crowd once used MIST's analysis of the dust to "prove" thermite ignoring that the matter used for thermite is common in building materials...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   12:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#542. To: postpunk (#540)

And, regardless, the Moonbats use thermite for screeching on about free fall or near free fall [pick a plan] when, in fact, they did not fall at anything resembling free fall or near free fall...once that is debunked, thermite becomes moot...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   12:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#543. To: postpunk (#540)

Wake Up and Smell the Aluminothermic Nanocomposite Explosives

Thermite is not an explosive...it's a cutter...thus thermite is ofen referred to as a "cutter charge"

war  posted on  2009-04-13   12:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#544. To: war (#541)

what? you're claiming thermite is a building material?

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   12:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#545. To: war (#542)

irrelevant and logically quite fucked

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   12:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#546. To: war (#543)

ah good; you've read the title.

try following each word after another until you reach the end.

be sure to have handy reference item to unpuzzle tricky words, and don't fail to click interior links for full comprehension.

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   12:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#547. To: postpunk (#545)

irrelevant and logically quite fucked

Nope...misrepresenting the actual fall time is crucial to the thermite blathering...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   12:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#548. To: war (#547)

misrepresenting the actual fall time is crucial

Misrepresenting the actual altitude of Flight 77 was crucial so .gov could claim that it hit poles that were in reality over 300 feet below the plane.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   12:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#549. To: postpunk (#544)

what? you're claiming thermite is a building material?

PLease...I know that you're grossly underinformed but don't ***think*** for one minute that includes me...

Jones tries to claim that his "independent" analysis of WTC dust found traces of "thermite" when, in fact, it's simply the chemicals that can be used in thermite. His analysis does not differ from NIST's...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   12:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#550. To: litus (#548)

Misrepresenting the actual altitude of Flight 77 was crucial so .gov could claim that it hit poles that were in reality over 300 feet below the plane.

Feel free to explain the plane parts at the Pentagon...

war  posted on  2009-04-13   12:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#551. To: war (#550)

Feel free to explain how a plane could take out poles that were 300 feet below it.

Feel free to explain how a plane, which appeared to be what was seen on the video, rolls across the grass to the Pentagon, but there's no marks or damage from said plane on the grass.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   12:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#552. To: war (#547)

what's crucial to you is plain to one sufficiently cynical, but irrelevant associations are still that--irrelevant associations betraying an agenda

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   12:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#553. To: war (#549)

bunkum--again, derision and bull-shittery does not rebuttal make

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   12:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#554. To: war (#550) (Edited)

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/pentalawn.html





Do you think just any lawn would hold up like this after a plane crashed on it?

This is how ordinary lawns look after commercial airliners crashed on them...


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   12:56:55 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#555. To: war (#550) (Edited)

"And the plane came through the first floor, right through Naval Ops..." - CNN



Purdue University's simulation of a Boeing 757 crashing into the Pentagon



Where's the damage to the roof????? to the grass??????

"The plane clipped light poles on nearby Route 27 and a backup generator at the Pentagon, bouncing off the ground before plowing into the building at a 45-degree angle." -USNews (12/10/01)


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   13:02:44 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#556. To: war (#549)

looky here! war's itty bitty bricks for building skyscrapers!

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-13   13:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#557. To: war (#539)

Do you also realize that WTC did not fall to ground but piled up on itself to almost 14 floors?

Show me a 14 floor high pile of pancaked floors.

If you can't do that, go screw.


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-13   13:21:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#558. To: war (#557)

Do you also realize that WTC did not fall to ground but piled up on itself to almost 14 floors?

Show me a 14 floor high pile of pancaked floors.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-13   13:28:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#559. To: TwentyTwelve, war (#558)

Do you also realize that WTC did not fall to ground but piled up on itself to almost 14 floors?

Show me a 14 floor high pile of pancaked floors.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   13:44:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#560. To: war, postpunk, FormerLurker, TwentyTwelve, litus, Rotara, christine, Wudidiz, all (#543)

Wake Up and Smell the Aluminothermic Nanocomposite Explosives

Thermite is not an explosive...it's a cutter...thus thermite is ofen referred to as a "cutter charge"

As usual your comment is intentionally misleading.

Standard thermite or thermate is not an explosive however nano-themite is both a cutter and an explosive.

As well there is nothing that says that thermite cannot be used in combination with explosives e.g., themite to cut through structural supports and explosives to initiate the collapse.

Does it give you a thrill to try to confuse people smarter than you?

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-13   14:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#561. To: war (#549)

Jones tries to claim that his "independent" analysis of WTC dust found traces of "thermite" when, in fact, it's simply the chemicals that can be used in thermite. His analysis does not differ from NIST's...

Wrong again, Charlie. First of all, it's not Jones' analysis. Secondly, these materials are bonded together in a sophisticated manner.

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

pp.7-31 (25)

Authors: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley, Bradley R. Larsen

doi: 10.2174/1874412500902010007

Abstract

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

Keywords: JScanning electron microscopy, X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy, Differential scanning calorimetry, DSC analysis, World Trade Center, WTC dust, 9/11, Iron-rich microspheres, Thermite, Super-thermite, Energetic nanocomposites, Nano-thermite Affiliation: Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Copenhagen, DK- 2100, Denmark.

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/co...001/7TOCPJ.SGM

____________________________________________________________________

Message from Dr. Steven E. Jones http://visibility911.com/blog/?cat=48

Formally published in a peer-reviewed Chemical Physics journal, today:

“Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe” by Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen

The paper ends with this sentence: “Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.”

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randge  posted on  2009-04-13   14:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#562. To: litus (#555)

The grass is easy it is the Amazing Penta-Lawn 2000. Impervious to aircraft engines, debris, and fire damage or your money back.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-13   14:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#563. To: randge (#561)

First of all, it's not Jones' analysis.

This is what you posted:

“Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe” by Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen

Tell me I am wrong again, please.

Secondly. the dust in Jones' analysis was collected from where?

Thirdly, a dust composition analysis done by NIST revealed what?

war  posted on  2009-04-13   14:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#564. To: war (#563)

Hey asshole, show me the 14 floor high pile of pancaked floors.


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-13   15:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#565. To: Critter (#564)

Hey asshole, show me the 14 floor high pile of pancaked floors.

Hey Dickweed...first show me where I said that the floors were pancaked... Thanks///

war  posted on  2009-04-13   15:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#566. To: Original_Intent (#560)

Does it give you a thrill to try to confuse people smarter than you?

Where have you seen me try to confuse people smarter than me?

Your nano thermite explosive would require how many pounds of materials and what would the steel look like thereafter?

war  posted on  2009-04-13   15:09:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#567. To: war (#566)

Your nano thermite explosive would require how many pounds of materials and what would the steel look like thereafter?

That's what a good investigation would uncover. Why are you so afraid? You'd better check your own building as it might be getting it's own preparation for demolition as you post, since we keep getting these gov. warnings.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-13   15:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#568. To: war (#566)

Your nano thermite explosive would require how many pounds of materials and what would the steel look like thereafter?

Twenty Five Ways to Suppress The Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-13   15:26:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#569. To: Original_Intent (#568)

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.

Especially after they pooh pooh suggestions for further investigation.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-13   15:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#570. To: Critter (#564)

show me the 14 floor high pile of pancaked floors.

Come on you do know that those pancakes were pulverized to dust evidently by their own weight and rate of fall./s

Three totally under engineered buildings approved by the NY Building dept on the brink of collapse and no one in New York even seems to care. How many others are out there New Yorkers or do you still not care? Thank god New York is not in an active earthquake zone.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-13   15:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#571. To: mininggold (#570)

www.historycommons.org/ti...line&printerfriendly=true

www.historycommons.org/ti...ine=complete_911_timeline

Here are a couple of good links to a timeline with excellent links, references and such.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2009-04-13   16:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#572. To: mininggold, Original_Intent (#569)

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.

Especially after they pooh pooh suggestions for further investigation.

bump!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   16:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#573. To: Original_Intent, James Deffenbach (#562)

The grass is easy it is the Amazing Penta-Lawn 2000. Impervious to aircraft engines, debris, and fire damage or your money back.

lolol!!

Magickal Grass!!!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   16:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#574. To: Critter (#564)

bump


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


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