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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
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Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
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Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic. Webmaster's Commentary: Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS. This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center. Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature. This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center. See Thermite and the WTC Collapses Posted on Apr 04, 2009 at 07:49 Tags: * 911
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#628. To: RickyJ (#622)
Collisions on each floor were going to happen no matter how it was brought down...
A majority of people are comfortable with the idea that other parties besides 19 Arabs had a hand in 9/11. The only ones defending the Official Fairy Tale are you gov/media fluffers. You guys are the moonbats, not the people that question the OFT.
Riiight...and the Flat Earthers? TRUE patriots...
I suggest you just hang it up and begin a new career defending the Warren Commission.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc...
Your logic sucks. Are you implying that the Feds never lie?
You retard, the 110 story towers fell in 13 seconds or less, and I'm pretty sure that's what Jones meant when he used that figure.
Now you're sounding like BAC. What industry are you talking about, the news industry? Certainly not the professional aviation industry, and certainly not the majority of physicists, chemists, and engineers in various disciplines such as civil and materials engineering.
Oh so now you're changing the official story? Ok war, did they fall down because of the wind as you tried to say earlier on, or were they brought down with explosives?
Don't expect to get anywhere using simple logic with war. He'll refuse to accept and/or admit to the most basic fundamental facts.
combobulate yourself, fella'! Answers to Frequently Asked Questions (August 30, 2006) 6. How could the WTC towers collapse in only 11 seconds (WTC 1) and 9 seconds (WTC 2)—speeds that approximate that of a ball dropped from similar height in a vacuum (with no air resistance)? NIST estimated the elapsed times for the first exterior panels to strike the ground after the collapse initiated in each of the towers to be approximately 11 seconds for WTC 1 and approximately 9 seconds for WTC 2. These elapsed times were based on: (1) precise timing of the initiation of collapse from video evidence, and (2) ground motion (seismic) signals recorded at Palisades, N.Y., that also were precisely time-calibrated for wave transmission times from lower Manhattan (see NCSTAR 1-5A). As documented in Section 6.14.4 of NIST NCSTAR 1, these collapse times show that: “… the structure below the level of collapse initiation offered minimal resistance to the falling building mass at and above the impact zone. The potential energy released by the downward movement of the large building mass far exceeded the capacity of the intact structure below to absorb that energy through energy of deformation. Since the stories below the level of collapse initiation provided little resistance to the tremendous energy released by the falling building mass, the building section above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further increasing the demand on the floors below, which were unable to arrest the moving mass.” dude, there was wicked mucho smashing of stuff, not the fuck-all suggested by the collapses' increasing swiftness (unless maybe it could have been...DEMOLITION!!!).
He doesn't even know what it is he is trying to defend. Yet he defends it! That's really crazy!
God is always good!
When you look at the debris pile at the bottom of this huge mas driving down through the 110 story buildings, you have to ask, what happened to the mass? There is no mass.
But collisions on each floor, which had to occur if you believe the government's story, would have slowed it down a very noticeable amount.
#629. To: war (#626)
#630. To: bluegrass (#629)
#631. To: war (#630)
#632. To: bluegrass (#631)
#633. To: war (#632)
#634. To: war, abraxas (#627)
He doesn't count very well...even Steven Jones says it took 13...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#635. To: war, abraxas (#626)
Let's just say that I put more weight on the opinion of the overwhelming majority of industry professionals
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#636. To: war, RickyJ (#625)
Too bad for you that they DID NOT Fall in a pancake.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#637. To: abraxas (#624)
If the explanation given for seven is false, then the explanations regarding the twin towers deserve more scrutiny as well.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#638. To: war (#620)
#543. To: postpunk (#540)
Wake Up and Smell the Aluminothermic Nanocomposite Explosives
Thermite is not an explosive...it's a cutter...thus thermite is ofen referred to as a "cutter charge"
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Meabwhile...thermite STILL does not make clean cuts and the towers did not fall at anything near free fall speed...
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster
what's important to understand is that a collapse occurring at free fall means that all potential energy is converted to kinetic energy with zero PE available for smashing. a collapse approaching free fall has PE less KE available for smashing (energy available for smashing remains arbitrarily near zero).
#639. To: FormerLurker, war (#636)
#640. To: postpunk, war (#638)
dude, there was wicked mucho smashing of stuff,
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
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#641. To: FormerLurker, War, Whore, abraxas, postpunk, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, Litus, christine, all (#635)
Now you're sounding like BAC. What industry are you talking about, the news industry? Certainly not the professional aviation industry, and certainly not the majority of physicists, chemists, and engineers in various disciplines such as civil and materials engineering. I just love that "overwhelming majority of industry professionals". One of those great generalities the shills love which when pressed always boils down to the same short list: Dr. Thomas Eagar from MIT who was the authority for the Nova whitewash - whose theory has been totally discredited. Pop Mechanics and their Strawman Whitewash which used misrepresented photos of WTC 6 and misrepresented them as WTC 7. Edited by that great engineering jeenyus of the HEARST Publishing Company, the former editor of "Entertainment Weekly", and Michael Jerkoff's cousin as the purported author. A variety of government employees controlled by the people who engineered the 911 PsyOP. And that's about it. A few other faces and names here and there - generally with government connections such as Controlled Demolition Inc.. And the vast army of "experts" keeps dwindling and being discredited. What's a poor hard working shill to do other than fall back on non-specific generalities such as "overwhelming majority"?
Let's just say that I put more weight on the opinion of the overwhelming majority of industry professionals
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#642. To: war, bluegrass, all (#632)
Sic transit gloria mundi ...
Post hoc ergo propter hoc...
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#643. To: Original_Intent (#641)
Pop Mechanics and their Strawman Whitewash which used misrepresented photos of WTC 6 and misrepresented them as WTC 7. Edited by that great engineering jeenyus of the HEARST Publishing Company, the former editor of "Entertainment Weekly", and Michael Jerkoff's cousin as the purported author. A variety of government employees controlled by the people who engineered the 911 PsyOP. And that's about it. A few other faces and names here and there - generally with government connections such as Controlled Demolition Inc.. And the vast army of "experts" keeps dwindling and being discredited. Worth repeating!
Dr. Thomas Eagar from MIT who was the authority for the Nova whitewash - whose theory has been totally discredited.
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#644. To: FormerLurker (#635)
Yea...those...and until you buck uup some numbers, sport, you're once again spouting bullshit. These groups participated in analyzing the collapse...buck up sime numbers Moonie that the majority of their members dissented from the findings: The American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) Coalition that comprised a Building Performance Assessment Team (BPAT). The ASCE Coalition Team included professional members of the Society of Fire Protection Engineers (SFPE), the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), the American Institute of Steel Construction (AISC), and the Structural Engineers Association of New York (SEAoNY). What did the colleagues of one of your Head Moonbats, Steven Jones, do when they heard the nonsense that he was spiouting? In fact, I challenge you now to buckk up the name of ONE organziation of architects, engineers, fire professionals etc etc etc who as a group have taken issue with NIST.
Certainly not the professional aviation industry, and certainly not the majority of physicists, chemists, and engineers in various disciplines such as civil and materials engineering.
#645. To: Original_Intent (#642)
Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum
Sic transit gloria mundi
#646. To: war, FormerLurker (#644)
I would say these folks have: http://www.ae911truth.org/ Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth!
In fact, I challenge you now to buckk up the name of ONE organziation of architects, engineers, fire professionals etc etc etc who as a group have taken issue with NIST.
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#647. To: postpunk (#638)
Quite simply...they didn't... Do you folks ***think*** if you keep repeating nonsense like Free Fall, near free fall, jet fuel, pancake, etc etc etc you're going to make them all come true?
How could the WTC towers collapse in only 11 seconds (WTC 1) and 9 seconds (WTC 2)—
#648. To: litus (#646)
They are a peer recognized group?
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth!
#649. To: war (#647)
did you miss the clickable link and the quote's context that that was NIST affirming collapse durations? slow down and stop tripping over yourself
#650. To: war (#648)
Your original question:I challenge you now to buckk up the name of ONE organziation of architects, engineers, fire professionals etc etc etc who as a group have taken issue with NIST. Unsatisfied with the answer, now you demand more:They are a peer recognized group? , such as their credentials, I suppose? You asked, it was answered. Moving the target doesn't make you look less like a shill. Demanding more than what you originally asked is yet another transparent attempt to ridicule those who don't worship at the alter of .gov.
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#651. To: war (#644) (Edited)
Here you go fool, here's over 660+ engineers and architects... Engineers and Architects question the 9/l1 Commission Report Note: I recommend using Firefox with the above link, as IE appears to hang when trying to open the page.
Yea...those...and until you buck uup some numbers, sport, you're once again spouting bullshit.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#652. To: FormerLurker, Litus, war (#651)
Note: I recommend using Firefox with the above link, as IE appears to hang when trying to open the page. 170+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials 660+ Engineers and Architects 180+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals 370+ Professors Question 9/11 230+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members 200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals
Engineers and Architects question the 9/l1 Commission Report
#653. To: TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, war (#652)
660+ Engineers and Architects 180+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals =1,010 + "professional" individuals who question the 9/11 .gov fairy tale. This is on top of the hundreds of thousands of other individuals worldwide who have used their common sense after reading testimonies, the fairy tale, hearing live audio tape of the firefighters, and watching with their own eyes what appears to be explosions and other oddities which do not comport with the fairytale version.
170+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#654. To: war (#626)
Funny, I haven't heard any voice in the wilderness of "overwhelming majority" respond to the nano thermite findings. Not one. Please link and source the "opnionion of the overwhelming majority of industry professionals" regarding this specific issues. I'll wait here with the crickets.
Let's just say that I put more weight on the opinion of the overwhelming majority of industry professionals than I do the occasional Moonbat.
#655. To: war (#627)
Er, that's the count on the TWIN TOWERS, not building seven which came down in 6.5 sceconds. Perhaps, an intentional misrepresentation of information on your part?
He doesn't count very well...even Steven Jones says it took 13...
#656. To: All (#654)
lol.........that's an opinion that makes your eyes water.
opnionion
#657. To: abraxas (#656)
hehehehe. you do have an edit button to fix your typos unless you'd rather leave 'em for a laugh. ;)
opnionion
#658. To: christine (#657)
I didn't know that. What a nice feature!! Hit me up side the head with a clue by four, Christine. You astound me with your thoughtfulness. I did write a note to self for future typos.......... Still, I'll let that typo roll like tears down my cheeks when I dice onions. : )
hehehehe. you do have an edit button to fix your typos unless you'd rather leave 'em for a laugh. ;)
#659. To: abraxas (#656)
LMAO! That is a classic!
lol.........that's an opinion that makes your eyes water.
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
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#660. To: war (#620)
So you're now conceding that there is no 14 story pile of rubble?
Meabwhile...thermite STILL does not make clean cuts and the towers did not fall at anything near free fall speed...
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
Used Tires Amityville, Babylon, Lindenhurst
#661. To: Original_Intent, war (#642)
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#662. To: Original_Intent, war (#633)
The question that war appears unable to answer honestly: Are you implying that the Feds never lie?
#663. To: bluegrass (#661) (Edited)
GO BACK TO MEXICO YOU WETBACK AND QUIT SPEAKING SPANI....ahhh errr...I mean quit speaking latin!!! lol The correct answer of course is NOBODY is watching them. The wolves are guarding the henhouse.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
#664. To: IndieTX (#663)
¿Dónde está la hierba?
#665. To: IndieTX (#663)
pasa me la sal por favor.
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
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#666. To: abraxas, christine (#656)
lol.........that's an opinion that makes your eyes water. that's a keeper! lolol!
opnionion
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#667. To: litus, FormerLurker, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, Whore, war, all (#650)
Unsatisfied with the answer, now you demand more:They are a peer recognized group? , such as their credentials, I suppose? You asked, it was answered. Moving the target doesn't make you look less like a shill. Demanding more than what you originally asked is yet another transparent attempt to ridicule those who don't worship at the alter of .gov. Twenty Five Ways to Suppress The Truth: The Rules of Disinformation 9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect. 19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.
Your original question:I challenge you now to buckk up the name of ONE organziation of architects, engineers, fire professionals etc etc etc who as a group have taken issue with NIST.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#668. To: war (#648)
Stay focused. Concentrate.
They are a peer recognized group?
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