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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
Source: whatreallyhappened.com
URL Source: http://whatreallyhappened.com/conte ... world-trade-center-catastrophe
Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
Views: 11527
Comments: 690

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

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Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS.

This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.

Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature.

This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

See Thermite and the WTC Collapses

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#271. To: litus, Original_Intent, FormerLurker, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, christine, all (#268)

Real Audio file of Chief Palmer In South Tower

Does a veteran battalion chief radio anything to fellow firefighters without knowing exactly what he is getting them into? This is dangerous shit. They make sure they assess the situation accurately. Anyone who claims that he gave them incomplete info is an asshole.


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-09   21:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: Original_Intent (#269)

Here is a link to a downloadable audio mp3 of the radio calls of the crews who made it up there. Audio Excerpts of Firefighter Radio Transmissions in South Tower

Beat me to it. I just posted a Real Audio version. lol


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-09   21:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#273. To: Original_Intent (#269)

Thanks for posting this.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-09   21:24:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: Critter (#272)

That's fine. No one can say there aren't enough available formats. ;-)

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-09   21:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: TwentyTwelve (#273)

You are most welcome.

Arguing with filthy quisling shills aside these HEROES should not be forgotten.

BUGLER! FRONT!

Sound Taps please.

Excuse me a moment I seem to be experiencing a problem with my eyes.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-09   21:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: Original_Intent (#274)

It makes me want to first cry, then kill some mutha fuggers, every time I hear that.


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-09   21:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: Critter (#276)

I know. Hanging really is too good for them.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-09   21:30:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: Original_Intent (#275)

Arguing with filthy quisling shills aside these HEROES should not be forgotten.

It is starting to remind me of the days we had at LP.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-09   21:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: Original_Intent, Critter, Litus, FormerLurker (#277)

I know. Hanging really is too good for them.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-09   21:43:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, Critter, FormerLurker (#279)

End of heroes murdered by Bush, Cheney, and their masters. DAMN THE BASTARDS!



Hanging really is too good for them.

litus  posted on  2009-04-09   21:51:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: litus (#280)

End of heroes murdered by Bush, Cheney, and their masters. DAMN THE BASTARDS!

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-09   21:57:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: TwentyTwelve (#281)

End of heroes murdered by Bush, Cheney, and their masters. DAMN THE BASTARDS!

litus  posted on  2009-04-09   22:03:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: TwentyTwelve (#279)

Too quick but acceptable if they are faced upward so they can stare at the blade and then watch it fall.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-09   22:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: Original_Intent (#283)

Too quick but acceptable if they are faced upward so they can stare at the blade and then watch it fall.

Good idea.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-09   22:20:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: Original_Intent (#266)

As well some of the heroes of FDNY reached the 85th floor

Oh...they've made it to 85 now...what's the over under on you Moonies having them making it to the roof?

So, I guess I can now look forward to correcting the floor that FDNY made it to [78] as well as what a Code 1 1045 is [DEAD BODIES]...

war  posted on  2009-04-09   23:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: litus (#268)

I don't know if I knew about this.

Don't feel left out...nobody else did either...

war  posted on  2009-04-09   23:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: Original_Intent (#269)

Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones."

Didn't you say they made it to 85?

war  posted on  2009-04-09   23:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#288. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#283)

Too quick but acceptable if they are faced upward so they can stare at the blade and then watch it fall.

It needs to have a dull blade, and not enough weight to make a clean cut the first time... or the second... or the third....


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-09   23:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#289. To: Original_Intent (#275)

How many 9/11 funerals did you attend?

war  posted on  2009-04-09   23:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: christine (#265)

Aha...yer an hour behind assuming yer not 2 hours behind because you live in one of those counties that don't observe Daylight Time...

war  posted on  2009-04-09   23:19:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: war, Original_Intent (#289)

How many 9/11 funerals did you attend?

And your point is????

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-09   23:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: war, Original_Intent (#289)

How many 9/11 funerals did you attend?

How many 9/11 Conferences have you attended?

Were you at the one in in LA? Chicago? Dallas?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-09   23:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: TwentyTwelve, war, Original_Intent (#291)

How many 9/11 funerals did you attend?

And your point is????

You know how murderers sometimes go to the funerals of their victims....


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-09   23:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: war (#289)

How many 9/11 funerals did you attend?

Attending a funeral makes you an expert in physics and structural engineering?

That's a new one.

I got some erroneous info that the WTC towers had steel a reinforced concrete core. At least I think it was erroneous now. It appears it was dry wall instead. But that doesn't explain the towers collapse at all.

In 1975 the North Tower burned for much longer and much more intensely than on 9/11, it didn't fall like a house of cards then.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-09   23:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: war, TwentyTwelve, Critter, christine, Wudidiz, litus, all (#287)

Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones."

Didn't you say they made it to 85?

I mis-spoke which I corrected in my next post (#269).

You're reaching shill. Your disinformation tactics are now so obvious that even a freeptard might catch on.

Of course what you are trying to do is distract from the key points of the transcript:

Firefighters made it to the 78th floor.

There were survivors amidst the alleged raging inferno which an experienced Battalion Chief described as "...two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines".

Hardly a raging inferno hot enough to melt steel. And there were survivors to be evacuated from amidst that inferno hot enough to melt steel.

You are really stupid shill if you think I will bite on your attempt to draw me into a diversion which takes away from the point you want people to miss.

There were survivors.

There were two small pockets of fire requiring only two hose teams.

That is not a raging inferno hot enough to melt steel.

Once again you are exposed as a liar and a shill.

Who do you work for shill?

How much do they pay you?

Minimum wage?

You're certainly not worth more than that.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-10   0:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#296. To: Original_Intent, Uncle Bill (#295)

as Uncle Bill (where are you?) once wrote, anyone who peddles .gov's fairy tale is either brain dead or a shill.

christine  posted on  2009-04-10   0:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#297. To: christine, Original_Intent, Uncle Bill, war (#296)

as Uncle Bill (where are you?) once wrote, anyone who peddles .gov's fairy tale is either brain dead or a shill.

And the brain dead typically don't make up lies and act like raging psychopaths, unlike our little friend war...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-10   3:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#298. To: Original_Intent (#266)

Oh, and one of the reasons that aid is being withheld from the heroes of the FDNY is that there are too many living witnesses who have gone on record saying there were explosions. The criminals who orchestrated this false flag terror crime WANT them to die as quickly as possible to get rid of inconvenient witnesses.

Very similar to the JFK assassination witnesses...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-10   3:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#299. To: Original_Intent (#266)

That is NOT a raging inferno it is a moderate building fire which would have been easily controlled. We know that the aircraft did not substantially damage the massively reinforced steel girder core (which was interlocked and so would have acted as a "heat sink" resulting in holding the temperature of the steel down below any of the critical points), that the fuel was burned up within ten minutes, and that the overbuilt cores of the building were more than adequate to sustain the level of proven damage and remain standing.

Those are all highly pertinent facts that the shills tap dance around and do whatever they can to obscure. They depend on the simple fact that for many, it's so much easier to go along with the herd than to actually think about the facts, as once one considers the facts, it becomes clear that we are STILL under constant threat of another series of attacks by those who TRULY perpetrated the 9/11 terror attacks, and that we have been killing people and losing American lives in the Middle East for NOTHING.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-10   3:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#300. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Critter, christine, Wudidiz, litus (#295)

There were survivors amidst the alleged raging inferno which an experienced Battalion Chief described as "...two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines".

And that is something we can NEVER expect to hear reported on television news. And for the brain dead, if it's not on TV news, then it mustn't be true because they truly think reporters and news editors are free to report on whatever they wish.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-10   3:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#301. To: Original_Intent (#266) (Edited)

. We know that the aircraft did not substantially damage the massively reinforced steel girder core (which was interlocked and so would have acted as a "heat sink" resulting in holding the temperature of the steel down below any of the critical points)

Since steel is a very good conductor of heat the whole building acted like one giant heat sink. Some warping of the steel could have occurred in the hottest spots given enough time, but 1 hour of smoldering fires wasn't enough time nor enough heat to cause warping. The 1975 fire in the North tower showed that it takes much more than one hour for any damage to occur from a raging fire in a steel framed skyscrapper, which it was. That fire was much hotter and lasted much longer than the fires on 9/11. Only minor warping resulted from that fire. But it didn't effect the structural integrity of the building in the slightest.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-10   3:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#302. To: RickyJ (#301)

Since steel is a very good conductor of heat the whole building acted like one giant heat sink. Some warping of the steel could have occurred in the hottest spots given enough time, but 1 hour of smoldering fires wasn't enough time nor enough heat to cause warping.

Yes, but you are not a trained WTC structural engineer, so you are not allowed to understand anything like simple physics. Now stop trying to trick us with logic, will ya? < /sarcasm >


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-10   7:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#303. To: Original_Intent (#295)

You're reaching shill.

The difference between 78 and 85 is 7 floors or half a football field, moron. YOuyr penchant for inaccuracy is well establised. OI: WTC 7 falling at free fall speed PROVES it was brought down by control demolition. ~versus~ OI: WTC& Falling at LESS THAN free fall speed PROVES that it was brought down by controlled demolition.

My next question is:

...where's the other banjo?

war  posted on  2009-04-10   9:00:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#304. To: Original_Intent (#295)

There were survivors.

1045 Code one means DEAD fool...

war  posted on  2009-04-10   9:01:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Critter, christine, Wudidiz (#300)

There were survivors amidst the alleged raging inferno which an experienced Battalion Chief described as "...two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines".

And that is something we can NEVER expect to hear reported on television news. And for the brain dead, if it's not on TV news, then it mustn't be true because they truly think reporters and news editors are free to report on whatever they wish.

Fire Department Tape Reveals No Awareness of Imminent Doom

Ladder 15 had finally found the fire after an arduous climb to the 78th floor, according to the tape. They were in the B stairwell. On the other side of the fire were hundreds of people, blocked from fleeing by smoke and flame on the stairs. Chief Palmer was facing similar fires in the A stairwell, across the floor.

''We're gonna knock down some fire here in the B Stair,'' Lieutenant Leavey is heard telling one of his firefighters. ''We'll meet up with you. You get over to the A Stair and help out Chief Palmer.''

The time was 9:56 a.m. The firefighters had just arrived at a place where, 54 minutes earlier, many people had been waiting for elevators when the second plane came crashing through the building. Now Chief Palmer and Ladder 15 were surrounded by the wounded whom they hoped to evacuate.

litus  posted on  2009-04-10   10:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#306. To: war (#304)

There were survivors.

1045 Code one means DEAD fool...

Nice attempt at misdirection. NOT.

Where's the raging inferno hot enough to melt steel?

If it was hot enough to melt steel there would be no bodies to be recovered.

There WERE survivors to be recovered.

Remember the photo of the woman looking out the hole made by one of the planes?

Per the Battalion Chief's report from the scene there were two small pockets of fire requiring just 2 hose teams.

You are attempting to direct attention away from the key data. In other words you are using disinformation tactics.

Why do you find it necessary to direct attention away from the data with disinformation tactics?

Play Again?

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-10   13:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: War (#306) (Edited)

"Why do you find it necessary to direct attention away from the data with disinformation tactics?"

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-10   13:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: litus, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Critter, christine, Wudidiz, Whore, war, all (#305)

Fire Department Tape Reveals No Awareness of Imminent Doom

Ladder 15 had finally found the fire after an arduous climb to the 78th floor, according to the tape. They were in the B stairwell. On the other side of the fire were hundreds of people, blocked from fleeing by smoke and flame on the stairs. Chief Palmer was facing similar fires in the A stairwell, across the floor.

''We're gonna knock down some fire here in the B Stair,'' Lieutenant Leavey is heard telling one of his firefighters. ''We'll meet up with you. You get over to the A Stair and help out Chief Palmer.''

The time was 9:56 a.m. The firefighters had just arrived at a place where, 54 minutes earlier, many people had been waiting for elevators when the second plane came crashing through the building. Now Chief Palmer and Ladder 15 were surrounded by the wounded whom they hoped to evacuate.

Another thought which hit me from your post.

It is another one of those "but the dog did not bark in the night" datums.

There is no sound of the structure beginning to fail.

There is no apparent awareness by experienced firefighters that the building is in danger of collapsing. No snapping girders, no creaking structure, nothing. The building just suddenly, without warning, decides to collapse straight down into roughly its own footprint including the massively reinforced H-beam core which Whore tried inititially to deny existed as the structure's primary load bearing support.

That is an important datum, because in a normal failure there are going to be precursors to failure. There will be sound, falling walls, snapping girders, etc., ..., but THERE WAS NO SOUND INDICATING IMMINENT COLLAPSE even up to the last transmission at 9:58. The building just decided to collapse uniformly, symmetrically, and into its own footprint.

We know the fire WAS MOST DEFINITELY NOT hot enough to melt steel or even soften it enough to fail.

Certainly the entire floor was not on fire as witnessed by the firefighters being able to access it, walk around, and report the conditions on the scene back. The Battalion Chief reported that he needed only two teams to fight two small pockets of fire. That again is NOT a raging inferno.

So, the question of course is what causes a building showing no signs of imminent collapse to suddenly collapse, uniformly, symmetrically, at near free fall velocity into its own footprint?

What would cause that?

Certainly not the nonexistent raging inferno.

The only hypothesis that accounts for ALL the data is an intentional controlled explosive demolition.

As with all 911 threads the valid data always leads back to that one hypothesis as the ONLY ONE which accounts for ALL of the data.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-10   13:56:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: TwentyTwelve (#307)

"Why do you find it necessary to direct attention away from the data with disinformation tactics?"

At the very least we should be seeing wholesale retrofitting of high rises worldwide to prevent theses types of "accidents" in the future. That is... if they believe their own scenarios. lololol

The followup behaviors always give them away.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-10   13:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: mininggold (#309)

The followup behaviors always give them away.

They almost always incriminate themselves.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-10   13:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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