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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
Source: whatreallyhappened.com
URL Source: http://whatreallyhappened.com/conte ... world-trade-center-catastrophe
Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
Views: 11197
Comments: 690

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

Webmaster's Commentary:

Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS.

This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.

Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature.

This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

See Thermite and the WTC Collapses

Posted on Apr 04, 2009 at 07:49

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#492. To: mininggold, war (#485)

Of course he knows this. It was a lame excuse proffered after his over the top vulgarities.

War, I didn't "attack" your mother. What I said is such an old joke that no one could seriously take it as any kind of "personal" attack.

Had someone made the same "attack" about my mother, who didn't even live half as long as your mother, who still lives, it would not have had any affect whatsoever.

You're pathetic.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   13:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#493. To: litus (#492)

You're pathetic.

There was no reason to mention my mom.

war  posted on  2009-04-12   13:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#494. To: war (#493)

There's no reason for you to be a paid .gov shill.

Twice as pathetic.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   13:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#495. To: litus (#494)

There's no reason for you to be a paid .gov shill.

I'm not. I make my living in the private sector. Always have.

There's no reason for you to be stupid and not get paid. Look at Jonesie here...aka 2012...how much money have you sent him?

war  posted on  2009-04-12   14:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#496. To: war, TwentyTwelve (#495)

Look at Jonesie here...aka 2012...how much money have you sent him?

Ah...so that's your justification for including TwentyTwelve in your disgusting, crude, and vulgar comment to me? Because TT listens to someone who tells the truth, as opposed to you, who do nothing but post disinformation and lies?


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   14:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#497. To: litus (#492)

It was a lame excuse proffered after his over the top vulgarities.

Caught in yet another lie:

#461. To: litus (#443)

I think that's what the doc may have done to war's mother after he was born.... Why am I not surprosed that you reveal yourself as a low life piece of shit. If you were 1/3 of a man you'd keep it among men...instead you have to attack an 88 year old women racked with Parkison's who kept a wonderful household and raised 4 kids who all graduated form college...what an absolute scum sucking piece of eboli infested maggot puke you are...

war posted on 2009-04-11 20:30:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#467. To: litus (#463)

You're not worth the spittle that dribbles from your mouth. TTFN

war posted on 2009-04-11 20:36:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

As you can see it was "proffered" [sic] before.

war  posted on  2009-04-12   14:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#498. To: litus (#496)

TT listens to someone who tells the truth

Do you know how many times Jonesie has been caught lying?

war  posted on  2009-04-12   14:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#499. To: war (#488)

There was no reason to mention my mom.

Maybe you should put all your unmentionables on your poster page so we can all know which eggshells not to walk on.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-12   14:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#500. To: mininggold (#499)

What is so hard about keeping things between each other? There is no reason to attack spouses, parents, children etc. None. It's a basic rule of life among men...and if you think that I conjured this up just recently...here

My mom is not fair game and damn the consequences to me for defending that tenet...

war  posted on  2009-04-12   14:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#501. To: war, TwentyTwelve (#497)

As you can see it was "proffered" [sic] before.

You didn't mention your mother's health until after my comment to FL. It is you who is lying.

Furthermore, TwentyTwelve had absolutely nothing to do with my post, yet you included him into your foul and over the top, disgustingly crude attack against me.

My post was to FormerLurker and TT never even commented upon it.

You can't even tell the truth about the order of events on a thread which expose your lies but you expect to be taken as credible on other matters? Right!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   14:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#502. To: war (#500)

boo friggin hoo.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   14:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#503. To: litus (#501)

You didn't mention your mother's health

You'll never get it because you have no honor.

war  posted on  2009-04-12   14:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#504. To: war (#500)

at is so hard about keeping things between each other? There is no reason to attack spouses, parents, children etc. None. It's a basic rule of life among men...and if you think that I conjured this up just recently...

On these boards once a poster slings mud they and everything about them real or imagined are fair game. If you don't like it, don't sling the mud, it's really that simple.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-12   14:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#505. To: war (#503)

Stay off the internet if your feelings are so easily overcome when mere dust falls upon you.

OTOH, you sure don't have a problem with slinging mud.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   14:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#506. To: mininggold, war (#504)

If you don't like it, don't sling the mud, it's really that simple.

That's a fact.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   14:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#507. To: mininggold, litus (#504)

On these boards once a poster slings mud they and everything about them real or imagined are fair game.

Save the lecture...my days on the internet go back to 1995 to MSN and the Discuss and Debate bulletin board. I have 0 problem with being attacked personally.

That said, there is no reason to attack ANYONE'S mom. PERIOD. End of discussion. If you don't get it you never will. We don't share the same sense of honor. I'd like to say that it shocks me that we don't but, sadly, it doesn't.

Let me ask you a question...someone attacks you on a thread to another poster and doesn't PING you...is that a breach of posting etiquete? Of course it is...how then, is it okay to attack a guy's mom?

war  posted on  2009-04-12   16:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#508. To: litus (#505)

you sure don't have a problem with slinging mud.

Feel free to point out when that has extended to your family...

Thanks...

war  posted on  2009-04-12   16:50:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#509. To: war (#508)

get over yourself and your over the top faux "outrage" already.

'Your mom' jokes are so popular because they don't discriminate between the person you're telling the joke to. They are not created to be racial or sexist jokes and because of this can be enjoyed by everyone and told to anyone. Some of my favorites are: Your mama's so ugly that when you were born they slapped her!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   17:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#510. To: FormerLurker (#477) (Edited)

Well I did some equations to see how much air resistance would slow down just one floor of the WTC towers falling from the top of the building with nothing to collide with on the way down and I found out it was insignificant compared to falling in a vacuum. It was insignificant due to the significant mass of the floor. But just one collision would have slowed it down considerably. On 9/11 there were "allegedly" over 100 of those collisions, still it fell at close to free fall speed. That of course is impossible.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-12   17:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#511. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#477) (Edited)

NTSB REFUSES TO ELABORATE OR ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS....
[credit to Critter for passing on info. about this website]

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html

Questions For NTSB/FBI Regarding Flight Data Recorder Information

  1. The current FDR shows 480' MSL True Altitude, too high to hit the light poles. What are your findings of True Altitude at end of data recording 09:37:44. Why did you provide a Flight Data Recorder that shows the aircraft too high without a side letter of explanation? How did you come to your conclusion.

  2. What is the vertical speed at end of data recording :44. How did you come to your conclusion.

  3. What is the Absolute Altitude and end of data recording? How did you come to your conclusion.

  4. Why does the csv file show the altimeter being set in the baro cor column on the descent through FL180, but the animation altimeter does not show it being set?(This is a blatant cover-up to confuse the average layman in hopes no one would adjust for local pressure to get True Altitude. Too bad for them we caught it).

  5. Why do the current G Forces for the last minute of data correspond to the changes in vertical speed, yet at end of data :44-:45 it shows an increase in vertical speed never accounting for any type of level off to be level with the lawn as shown in the DoD video?

  6. Do you have any video showing a clear impact and/or of the plane on its approach to impact?

  7. Why does your animation show a flight path north of the reported flight path?

  8. Why are there no system indication of any impact with any object up to and after :44?

  9. Why does the csv file and animation show a right bank when the official report requires a left bank to be consistent with physical damage to the generator?

  10. How did you come to the conclusion of 09:37:45 as the official impact time?

  11. What is the exact chain of custody of the FDR? What date/time was it found? Where exactly was it found? Please provide documentation and names.

  12. Why does the hijack timeline show a 3 min interval for hijacking to take place? Why was Capt. Burlingame reported to have not followed protocol for the Common Strategy prior to 9/11?


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   17:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#512. To: Critter (#511)

courtesy ping to my 511


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   17:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#513. To: FormerLurker, war (#442) (Edited)

I don't find these people to be an "insignificant minority"...

Patriots Question 9/11

bitch slapped by a layman

It's become obvious to me you hit a nerve FL when you posted the above, so war resorted to the typical .gov propagandist attempts to siderail and distract.

To that I say: good job!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-12   17:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#514. To: litus (#513)

It's become obvious to me you hit a nerve FL

FL has been on bozo for weeks...

war  posted on  2009-04-12   20:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#515. To: RickyJ (#510)

still it fell at close to free fall speed

No it didn't...

war  posted on  2009-04-12   20:53:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#516. To: RickyJ (#510)

still it fell at close to free fall speed

war  posted on  2009-04-12   20:59:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#517. To: war (#516)

9/11 debunked

You're debunked. Go chase yourself back to LP...


Beware!
This guy may be prowling 4um:

Used Tires Amityville, Babylon, Lindenhurst

Critter  posted on  2009-04-12   23:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#518. To: war, litus, TwentyTwelve (#498)

Do you know how many times Jonesie has been caught lying?

2012 (whom you call Jonesie for some childish reason) has not lied. YOU on the other hand have been caught spewing lies and misrepresenting images of one building (WTC 5) on fire when the discussion was about a different building (WTC 7) trying to give the impression that it was WTC 7 engulfed in flames, where it was actually WTC 5.

THEN you deny you did it, where I then traced your posts and gave concrete evidence that you DID do as I allege.

You have tap danced all over this thread changing your story from one page to another. It's clear and evident that you contradict yourself and do not know what the hell you are talking about, yet you act condenscending to everyone here and resort to foul language and personal attacks when all else fails.

YOU are the liar here war.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-12   23:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#519. To: war, litmus (#497)

I think that's what the doc may have done to war's mother after he was born....

Oooh, he said that the doctor slapped your mom when you were born. That's not an attack on your mother, that's a humorous jab at YOU you dumb shit.

It's a joke that's older than you are.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-12   23:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#520. To: war, mininggold. christine (#500)

My mom is not fair game and damn the consequences to me for defending that tenet...

Nobody here attacked your mother you bloviating fool. You're acting like a prima donna trying to gain undeserved sympathy for yourself.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-13   0:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#521. To: RickyJ (#510)

On 9/11 there were "allegedly" over 100 of those collisions, still it fell at close to free fall speed. That of course is impossible.

Of course it is. Add to the equation the fact that there was a significant loss of mass since much of it was being pulverized and dispersed into the air, along with the fact the pulverization process removed the kinetic energy available to actually break the undamaged floors, and the collapse itself becomes rather improbable in the first place, if not outright impossible.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-13   0:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#522. To: litus (#513)

It's become obvious to me you hit a nerve FL when you posted the above, so war resorted to the typical .gov propagandist attempts to siderail and distract.

To that I say: good job!

That could very well explain war's tear jerking rendition of being offended due to a silly "doc slapped your mom when you were born" joke.

And thanks for the compliment... :)


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-13   0:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#523. To: litus, war, whore, FormerLurker, TwentyTwelve, christine, all (#509)

get over yourself and your over the top faux "outrage" already.

'Your mom' jokes are so popular because they don't discriminate between the person you're telling the joke to. They are not created to be racial or sexist jokes and because of this can be enjoyed by everyone and told to anyone. Some of my favorites are: Your mama's so ugly that when you were born they slapped her!

Faux outrage is correct.

Another common shill tactic. When caught in a semantic and logical bind divert the thread onto a more manageable tack.

This is right out of: Twenty Five Ways to Suppress The Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-13   0:14:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#524. To: war, litus (#514)

FL has been on bozo for weeks...

You're like a little kid thinking if he hides under his covers, those bad monsters in his closet will go away, then claiming he's a big brave dude because he fought off those nasty monsters in his closet.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-13   0:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#525. To: Original_Intent (#523)

Twenty Five Ways to Suppress The Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

Become incredulous and indignant.

It's obviously a set of rules that war lives by...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-13   0:18:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#526. To: war (#507)

Save the lecture...my days on the internet go back to 1995 to MSN and the Discuss and Debate bulletin board. I have 0 problem with being attacked personally.

I could care less if your posting days goes back to the ark. I'm starting to think that some of the other posters are right. It's YOU who wants to be the Prima Donna, either by hook or by crook.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-13   0:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#527. To: FormerLurker (#522)

That could very well explain war's tear jerking rendition of being offended due to a silly "doc slapped your mom when you were born" joke.

And thanks for the compliment... :)

Yes, the acting was exceptional!.

yw, FL.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   0:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#528. To: mininggold (#526)

I could care less if your posting days goes back to the ark.

lolol!!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   0:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#529. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker (#523)

This is right out of: Twenty Five Ways to Suppress The Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.

These shills must have a little black book, ready with examples.

You do notice he's used this one before....why, he even posted a link to his ready made, pat answer at LP!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   0:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#530. To: litus (#527)

Yes, the acting was exceptional!.

A total overreaction to your remark. He's manufacturing what I call a hissy fit so he can Bozo you and save face at the same time.

mininggold  posted on  2009-04-13   0:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#531. To: mininggold (#530)

Ridiculous and transparent.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-13   0:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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