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Title: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
Source: whatreallyhappened.com
URL Source: http://whatreallyhappened.com/conte ... world-trade-center-catastrophe
Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: whatreallyhappened.com
Post Date: 2009-04-05 01:25:36 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, 911, Thermite, WTC Collapses
Views: 11325
Comments: 690

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

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Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS.

This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.

Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature.

This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

See Thermite and the WTC Collapses

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#639. To: FormerLurker, war (#636)

He doesn't even know what it is he is trying to defend. Yet he defends it! That's really crazy!

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-14   15:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#640. To: postpunk, war (#638)

dude, there was wicked mucho smashing of stuff,

When you look at the debris pile at the bottom of this huge mas driving down through the 110 story buildings, you have to ask, what happened to the mass? There is no mass.


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-14   15:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#641. To: FormerLurker, War, Whore, abraxas, postpunk, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, Litus, christine, all (#635)

Let's just say that I put more weight on the opinion of the overwhelming majority of industry professionals

Now you're sounding like BAC. What industry are you talking about, the news industry?

Certainly not the professional aviation industry, and certainly not the majority of physicists, chemists, and engineers in various disciplines such as civil and materials engineering.

I just love that "overwhelming majority of industry professionals". One of those great generalities the shills love which when pressed always boils down to the same short list:

Dr. Thomas Eagar from MIT who was the authority for the Nova whitewash - whose theory has been totally discredited.

Pop Mechanics and their Strawman Whitewash which used misrepresented photos of WTC 6 and misrepresented them as WTC 7. Edited by that great engineering jeenyus of the HEARST Publishing Company, the former editor of "Entertainment Weekly", and Michael Jerkoff's cousin as the purported author.

A variety of government employees controlled by the people who engineered the 911 PsyOP.

And that's about it. A few other faces and names here and there - generally with government connections such as Controlled Demolition Inc..

And the vast army of "experts" keeps dwindling and being discredited.

What's a poor hard working shill to do other than fall back on non-specific generalities such as "overwhelming majority"?

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-14   15:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#642. To: war, bluegrass, all (#632)

Post hoc ergo propter hoc...

Sic transit gloria mundi ...

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-14   15:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#643. To: Original_Intent (#641)

Dr. Thomas Eagar from MIT who was the authority for the Nova whitewash - whose theory has been totally discredited.

Pop Mechanics and their Strawman Whitewash which used misrepresented photos of WTC 6 and misrepresented them as WTC 7. Edited by that great engineering jeenyus of the HEARST Publishing Company, the former editor of "Entertainment Weekly", and Michael Jerkoff's cousin as the purported author.

A variety of government employees controlled by the people who engineered the 911 PsyOP.

And that's about it. A few other faces and names here and there - generally with government connections such as Controlled Demolition Inc..

And the vast army of "experts" keeps dwindling and being discredited.

Worth repeating!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-14   15:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#644. To: FormerLurker (#635)

Certainly not the professional aviation industry, and certainly not the majority of physicists, chemists, and engineers in various disciplines such as civil and materials engineering.

Yea...those...and until you buck uup some numbers, sport, you're once again spouting bullshit.

These groups participated in analyzing the collapse...buck up sime numbers Moonie that the majority of their members dissented from the findings:

The American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) Coalition that comprised a Building Performance Assessment Team (BPAT). The ASCE Coalition Team included professional members of the Society of Fire Protection Engineers (SFPE), the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), the American Institute of Steel Construction (AISC), and the Structural Engineers Association of New York (SEAoNY).

What did the colleagues of one of your Head Moonbats, Steven Jones, do when they heard the nonsense that he was spiouting? In fact, I challenge you now to buckk up the name of ONE organziation of architects, engineers, fire professionals etc etc etc who as a group have taken issue with NIST.

war  posted on  2009-04-14   16:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#645. To: Original_Intent (#642)

Sic transit gloria mundi

Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum

war  posted on  2009-04-14   16:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#646. To: war, FormerLurker (#644)

In fact, I challenge you now to buckk up the name of ONE organziation of architects, engineers, fire professionals etc etc etc who as a group have taken issue with NIST.

I would say these folks have:

http://www.ae911truth.org/

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-14   16:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#647. To: postpunk (#638)

How could the WTC towers collapse in only 11 seconds (WTC 1) and 9 seconds (WTC 2)—

Quite simply...they didn't... Do you folks ***think*** if you keep repeating nonsense like Free Fall, near free fall, jet fuel, pancake, etc etc etc you're going to make them all come true?

war  posted on  2009-04-14   16:07:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#648. To: litus (#646)

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth!

They are a peer recognized group?

war  posted on  2009-04-14   16:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#649. To: war (#647)

did you miss the clickable link and the quote's context that that was NIST affirming collapse durations?

slow down and stop tripping over yourself

postpunk  posted on  2009-04-14   16:23:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#650. To: war (#648)

Your original question:I challenge you now to buckk up the name of ONE organziation of architects, engineers, fire professionals etc etc etc who as a group have taken issue with NIST.

Unsatisfied with the answer, now you demand more:They are a peer recognized group? , such as their credentials, I suppose?

You asked, it was answered. Moving the target doesn't make you look less like a shill. Demanding more than what you originally asked is yet another transparent attempt to ridicule those who don't worship at the alter of .gov.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-14   16:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#651. To: war (#644) (Edited)

Yea...those...and until you buck uup some numbers, sport, you're once again spouting bullshit.

Here you go fool, here's over 660+ engineers and architects...

Engineers and Architects question the 9/l1 Commission Report

Note: I recommend using Firefox with the above link, as IE appears to hang when trying to open the page.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-14   17:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#652. To: FormerLurker, Litus, war (#651)

Engineers and Architects question the 9/l1 Commission Report

Note: I recommend using Firefox with the above link, as IE appears to hang when trying to open the page.

170+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials

660+ Engineers and Architects

180+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals

370+ Professors Question 9/11

230+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members

200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-14   17:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#653. To: TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, war (#652)

170+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials

660+ Engineers and Architects

180+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals

=1,010 + "professional" individuals who question the 9/11 .gov fairy tale.

This is on top of the hundreds of thousands of other individuals worldwide who have used their common sense after reading testimonies, the fairy tale, hearing live audio tape of the firefighters, and watching with their own eyes what appears to be explosions and other oddities which do not comport with the fairytale version.


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-14   17:55:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#654. To: war (#626)

Let's just say that I put more weight on the opinion of the overwhelming majority of industry professionals than I do the occasional Moonbat.

Funny, I haven't heard any voice in the wilderness of "overwhelming majority" respond to the nano thermite findings. Not one. Please link and source the "opnionion of the overwhelming majority of industry professionals" regarding this specific issues.

I'll wait here with the crickets.

abraxas  posted on  2009-04-14   19:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#655. To: war (#627)

He doesn't count very well...even Steven Jones says it took 13...

Er, that's the count on the TWIN TOWERS, not building seven which came down in 6.5 sceconds. Perhaps, an intentional misrepresentation of information on your part?

abraxas  posted on  2009-04-14   19:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#656. To: All (#654)

opnionion

lol.........that's an opinion that makes your eyes water.

abraxas  posted on  2009-04-14   19:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#657. To: abraxas (#656)

opnionion

hehehehe. you do have an edit button to fix your typos unless you'd rather leave 'em for a laugh. ;)

christine  posted on  2009-04-14   19:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#658. To: christine (#657)

hehehehe. you do have an edit button to fix your typos unless you'd rather leave 'em for a laugh. ;)

I didn't know that. What a nice feature!!

Hit me up side the head with a clue by four, Christine. You astound me with your thoughtfulness. I did write a note to self for future typos..........

Still, I'll let that typo roll like tears down my cheeks when I dice onions. : )

abraxas  posted on  2009-04-14   19:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#659. To: abraxas (#656)

lol.........that's an opinion that makes your eyes water.

LMAO! That is a classic!


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-14   19:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#660. To: war (#620)

Meabwhile...thermite STILL does not make clean cuts and the towers did not fall at anything near free fall speed...

So you're now conceding that there is no 14 story pile of rubble?


Beware!
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Critter  posted on  2009-04-14   19:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#661. To: Original_Intent, war (#642)

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-14   20:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#662. To: Original_Intent, war (#633)

The question that war appears unable to answer honestly:

Are you implying that the Feds never lie?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-14   20:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#663. To: bluegrass (#661) (Edited)

GO BACK TO MEXICO YOU WETBACK AND QUIT SPEAKING SPANI....ahhh errr...I mean quit speaking latin!!! lol

The correct answer of course is NOBODY is watching them. The wolves are guarding the henhouse.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2009-04-14   20:22:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#664. To: IndieTX (#663)

¿Dónde está la hierba?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-14   20:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#665. To: IndieTX (#663)

pasa me la sal por favor.


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Critter  posted on  2009-04-14   20:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#666. To: abraxas, christine (#656)

opnionion

lol.........that's an opinion that makes your eyes water.

that's a keeper!

lolol!


"It is not for glory, riches or honours that we fight, but for that liberty which no good man will consent to lose but with his life."
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"

litus  posted on  2009-04-14   22:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#667. To: litus, FormerLurker, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, Whore, war, all (#650)

Your original question:I challenge you now to buckk up the name of ONE organziation of architects, engineers, fire professionals etc etc etc who as a group have taken issue with NIST.

Unsatisfied with the answer, now you demand more:They are a peer recognized group? , such as their credentials, I suppose?

You asked, it was answered. Moving the target doesn't make you look less like a shill. Demanding more than what you originally asked is yet another transparent attempt to ridicule those who don't worship at the alter of .gov.

Twenty Five Ways to Suppress The Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-15   1:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#668. To: war (#648)

They are a peer recognized group?

Stay focused.

Concentrate.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-15   2:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#669. To: bluegrass (#661)

Bis interimitur qui suis armis perit...

war  posted on  2009-04-15   8:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#670. To: TwentyTwelve (#668)

Jonesie...either get some sort of floatation device or practice self-editing.

war  posted on  2009-04-15   8:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#671. To: Original_Intent (#667)

Let's cut to the chase, here Moonie...how many architects, engineers and the like are there? Now, how many are Moonbats like you?

Got it?

war  posted on  2009-04-15   8:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#672. To: abraxas (#654)

Funny, I haven't heard any voice in the wilderness of "overwhelming majority" respond to the nano thermite findings. Not one. Please link and source the "opnionion of the overwhelming majority of industry professionals" regarding this specific issues.

The issue of controlled demolition has been out there since the Moon rose on 9/11/01.

it's been greeted with the same resounding silence I've been referring to.

war  posted on  2009-04-15   8:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#673. To: abraxas, all (#656)

When you start attacking typos you have no argument.

war  posted on  2009-04-15   8:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#674. To: war, Original_Intent (#671)

Let's cut to the chase, here Moonie...how many architects, engineers and the like are there?

Hey jackass, over 660 architects and engineers were pointed out to you in post 651.

It's obvious that you ignore any and all facts and simply repeat the same retarded questions over and over and over....


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-15   9:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#675. To: war (#672)

it's been greeted with the same resounding silence I've been referring to.

Liar.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-15   9:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#676. To: Original_Intent (#667)

19. Ignore proof presented

war is certainly fond of that particular tactic.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-15   9:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#677. To: war (#670)

Jonesie...either get some sort of floatation device or practice self-editing.

Rule Number Five

Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-15   10:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#678. To: war, all (#673)

When you start attacking typos you have no argument.

hehehe......attacking who? I was joking about my own typo.

I've noted that when you use diversion ad nauseum, you have no argument.

abraxas  posted on  2009-04-15   12:01:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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