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Title: Lib Blogs Kick into Frothing Overdrive in Reaction to Pittsburgh Shootings
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Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: Kurt Nimmo
Post Date: 2009-04-05 14:34:58 by christine
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In the wake of the violence in Pittsburgh earlier today, the pro-Obama liberal blogs are blaming those of us who support the Second Amendment for the murder of four police officers. David Neiwert, of Crooks and Liars, has grabbed a hold of comments made by Edward Perkovic, described as alleged shooter Richard Poplawski’s best friend. Perkovic said Poplawski feared “the Obama gun ban that’s on the way” and “didn’t like our rights being infringed upon.” Neiwert basically placed the blame for the murders on Fox News host Glenn Beck and Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the NRA, because they are worried about the Second Amendment under the Obama administration. In an interview by WPXI in Pittsburgh, Perkovic made comments about Poplawski’s fear the Obama administration will go after the Second Amendment. “We’ve been reporting for awhile on the surge in gun sales, and how the paranoia around guns is making the more unstable elements of the right particularly edgy,” writes Neiwert. “Inevitably, that edginess is going to break out into actual violence — as it appears to have done today.” Neiwert may want to put aside the partisan zeal and think about his criticism of what he deems “the more unstable elements of the right.” He might want take a look at the facts. Obama is indeed a gun-grabber and Americans in support of the Second Amendment have a right to fear his agenda. As a junior senator from Illinois, Obama opposed a bill designed to assert a right of citizens to protect themselves against home invasions. He supported state and local constraint on the exercise of the Second Amendment. Obama endorsed a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. He supported the enforcement of gun licensing and a limit on gun purchases. He would ban semi-automatic weapons. (See Barack Obama on Gun Control.) Obama’s attorney general, Eric Holder, is a veteran gun-grabber. In February, Holder pushed for the long dormant “assault weapon” ban (any weapon that is semi-automatic is considered an “assault weapon” by these folks). Holder shamelessly (and minus facts) blamed drug cartel violence in Mexico on the Second Amendment. “I would support banning the sale of ammunition for assault weapons and limiting the sale of ammunition for handguns,” Obama said in 2003. In addition to slandering as mental cases those of us who support the Second Amendment, David Neiwert came out in support of MIAC, the state police outfit in Missouri that designated supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as militia terrorists and cop killers. In Stalinist fashion, Neiwert wants to go after those on the other side of the fake right-left paradigm. “Ironically, this is exactly the kind of incident that law-enforcement intelligence-gathering is supposed to help prevent — intelligence like the Missouri State Patrol report so hysterically attacked by these same paranoid right-wingers,” Neiwert writes. “I tried to explain at the time that these kinds of extremists are in fact a very real danger to people in law enforcement, but all anyone on the right wanted to talk about was Ron Paul bumper stickers. Well, there you go.” Neiwert apparently has a short memory. It wasn’t that long ago similar operations by the FBI under COINTELPRO went after people like Neiwert on the so-called left side of the false right-left paradigm. “Eddie Perkovic, for his part, clearly must share some of Poplawski’s views, as his profile revealed a fear of ‘Zionists’ and some kind of ethnic takeover of America. Among Perkovic’s recommended reads were ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ and The Turner Diaries,” writes the True Crime Report blog. “I can’t help but feel we’ll hear from more Richard Poplawskis in the years to come. There are changes happening in the world that they, to say the least, don’t like very much. After all, prior to 9/11/01, the worst modern act of terrorism committed on American soil was committed by Americans. And that American, Tim McVeigh, happened to have pages from The Turner Diaries with him when he was arrested.” The True Crime Report might want to look into the revelations of Jesse Trentadue, who discovered that the FBI planted informants in two McVeigh connected groups — a white supremacist paramilitary training compound at Elohim City and the Mid-West Bank Robbery Gang. In fact, the FBI has long supported “right-wing hate groups” of the sort mentioned by the True Crime Report. “In the guise of a COINTELPRO against ‘white hate groups,’ the FBI subsidized, armed, directed and protected the Klu Klux Klan and other right-wing groups,” writes Brian Glick (COINTELPRO Revisited: Spying & Disruption). The “FBI actually gave covert aid to the Ku Klux Klan, Minutemen, Nazis, and other racist vigilantes. These groups received substantial funds, information, and protection-and suffered only token FBI harassment-so long as they directed their violence against COINTELPRO targets,” Glick writes in COINTELPRO in the 60s. Edward Perkovic’s mention of The Turner Dairies, the writings of David Duke, and the long discredited Protocols of the Elders of Zion (see his MySpace page here) — and his reference to the “Zionist government” in the video linked above — are completely irrelevant to the fact the government is in the business of attacking the Second Amendment and incrementally establishing a police state through federalization of local law enforcement and the passage of numerous draconian federal and state laws. It is still early and a clear picture of who exactly Richard Poplawski is and what he may or may not believe has not been established. He may hold beliefs ascribed to him by Perkovic. Either way, the Perkovic case — and the murder of police officers in Oakland, California, and the shootings at the American Civic Services Center in New York — will be used by the government to push for more stringent gun laws and the presence of more black-clad police on the streets. In the meantime, we can expect the Obama libs to continue their demonization of those of us who not only value and support the Second Amendment – the very cornerstone of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights – but also those of us who realize government invariably plots against liberty and eventually enslaves the masses, as a glance at the last century reveals. Liberals need to realize that Obama is merely a front man for a cartel of international bankers. His assignment is to grease the skids for the implementation of world government. Included in that agenda is the ongoing effort to outlaw and eventually confiscate all firearms and militarize police around the country. It should be expected that the government will exploit the recent shootings in order further their propaganda and realize their master plan of an unarmed and helpless populace. It really is sad the liberals are helping them in this effort by offering themselves up as useful idiots.
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#1. To: christine (#0)
Unlike the ghetto trash in Oakland, California, this murderer is not considered to be a hero by the citizens. But yeah, the gun grabbers have their talking points; hate speech and additional gun legislation is in order. They're as predictable as a sea of red flags on May day.
absolutely. they are so partisanly blinded to what i bolded in Nimmo's commentary. it's jaw dropping for me.
You know if I was a conspiracy nut I was say this was done on purpose to garner public support for the anti-gun legislation coming down the pike.
LOL I guess I should read everything before I reply. Nice to know we are on the same page though.
It doesn't take a witches crystal ball to know gun legislation was coming down the pike once this sack of shit was selected. Just look at the uptick of gun and ammo sales. S&W stock is up more than 30%. The American people know his agenda from his days as an Ill. state senator and are wisely preparing.
In the meantime, we can expect the Obama libs to continue their demonization of those of us who not only value and support the Second Amendment – the very cornerstone of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights – but also those of us who realize government invariably plots against liberty and eventually enslaves the masses, as a glance at the last century reveals.
The freedom loving portion of the nation is on the same page. OTOH, the pro- government leftists cheer political leg irons for truth tellers. The enemy has shed their nom de plumes.
The Second Amendment obsessers strike me as a lot like the Christian Right. They seek out persecution in order to feel more "righteous" about their causes. Under the so-called "Law of Attraction," they may well eventually experience what they sometimes so desperately seem to desire. I still think the federal government will not be able to recruit enough short-bus riders to go door-to-door attempting to confiscate firearms, though. It didn't even really try very hard to do that in Iraq.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Interesting that you should call it that. It's true of course. The 1st Amendment establishes that the people are a free people. The government can't infringe on their most basic of rights. The 2nd Amendment tells the government it can't infringe on the people's right to protect the God given rights in the 1st Amendment.
Bravo, Sam. Who knew about the Law of Attraction :)
Good luck with that ! grrrrrrr
I don't know about that. There are a LOT of ferret weasels out there.
Yeah, that and get his meds adjusted. It is obvious the boy ain't right.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. coincidental that you would mention the Law of Attraction. i just watched 'The Secret' last night.
So the lib [sic] blogs are correct then?
bump The government set up by the Constitution--"is likely to be well administered for a Course of Years and can only end in Despotism as other Forms have done before it, when the People shall become so corrupted as to need Despotic Government, being incapable of any other." "The United States is Britain's very image and superscription . . . as true a gamecock as she and, I warrant you, shall become as great a scourge to mankind." Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. edited for brevity
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
If I'm to blame, I want to know how.
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Matt and Trey go off on sheeple by using Disney (My interpretation) "You are all ants and I am your destroyer! HA-HA." .
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If I'm to blame, I want to know how. "V" was addressing the general adult population, past and present, all of whom bore some responsibility for the predicament and its unmolested continuation. The responsibility for the continuation of Freedom was clearly placed upon the shoulders of future generations by the Founding Fathers.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
It's not "paranoid" to recognize the willingness of gun control advocates to exploit any tragedy. I keep seeing statements that these incidents prove that we need a "few reasonable gun laws". Of course I can't wring a definition of "few" or "reasonable" out of any of these people. I also note that the favorite proposals--such as federal registration--if in force today wouldn't have prevented the incidents that supposedly prove that we "need" said proposed laws.
Do any of us have a doubt that this administration will use a shooting, one which fits the demographic they're looking for, for further gun control?
what? we need more than 20,000? ;)
Yep. 21,000 should do it. ;)
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Things always degenerate over time. It is a natural process. IIRC it's called the law of entropy. It's not a big "illuminati" conspiracy that's responsible for this mess, although there is room for psychopathic conspirators to take advantage of the situation. JMO. The problem is that it all happened so slowly that people missed it. And it's hard to see if you are still in the worldly system. It takes a lot of effort, or maybe it's too much effort, to see it when they are using all their energy in just trying to keep up with the culture. I have an advantage in that I just dont give a fuck about this "culture". Which makes me a "loser". Which gives me the ability to see some of this shit. Being a "loser" isnt so bad... . .
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of course it is. it wasnt random starting in the 60's or in 1913, even george washington himself in letters at the library of congress specifically admit the ILLUMINATE CONSPIRACY. even fag devil worshipper ben franklin, viewed as a 'hero' of most murikans had at least 10 bodies buried under his house, 6 of them children (reported by BCC). of course they probably just got lost under there while loooking for a frisbee or something. it's all a coincidence. // Source: United States Library of Congress The George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress, 1741-1799 http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/mgwquery.html You can search on Library of Congress yourself with the word "Illuminati". Below are the screen copies and the full transcript of George Washington's. You can search the world "Illuminati" yourself (link above) Source: United States Library of Congress The George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress, 1741-1799 http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/mgwquery.html You can search on Library of Congress yourself with the word "Illuminati". Below are the screen copies and the full transcript of George Washington's. You can search the world "Illuminati" yourself (link above) http://memory.loc.gov/mss/mgw/mgw2/021/1820176.jpg I could not cut and paste the scan of the actual letter, but if you go to those links (Library of Congress you should be able to display it. Here's the text: George Washington to George Washington Snyder, October 24, 1798 -- Transcription Mount Vernon, October 24, 1798. "Revd Sir: I have your favor of the 17th. instant before me; and my only motive to trouble you with the receipt of this letter, is to explain, and correct a mistake which I perceive the hurry in which I am obliged, often, to write letters, have led you into. It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am. The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of seperation). That Individuals of them may have done it, or that the founder, or instrument employed to found, the Democratic Societies in the United States, may have had these objects; and actually had a seperation of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned. My occupations are such, that but little leisure is allowed me to read News Papers, or Books of any kind; the reading of letters, and preparing answers, absorb much of my time. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mount Vernon, September 25, 1798. "Sir: Many apologies are due to you, for my not acknowledging the receipt of your obliging favour of the 22d. Ulto, and for not thanking you, at an earlier period, for the Book you had the goodness to send me. I have heard much of the nefarious, and dangerous plan, and doctrines of the Illuminati, but never saw the Book until you were pleased to send it to me. The same causes which have prevented my acknowledging the receipt of your letter have prevented my reading the Book, hitherto; namely, the multiplicity of matters which pressed upon me before, and the debilitated state in which I was left after, a severe fever had been removed. And which allows me to add little more now, than thanks for your kind wishes and favourable sentiments, except to correct an error you have run into, of my Presiding over the English lodges in this Country. The fact is, I preside over none, nor have I been in one more than once or twice, within the last thirty years. I believe notwithstanding, that none of the Lodges in this Country are contaminated with the principles ascribed to the Society of the Illuminati. With respect I am &c." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [Note : In a letter from Snyder (Aug. 22, 1798, which is in the Washington Papers), it is stated that this book "gives a full Account of a Society of Free- Masons, that distinguishes itself by the Name of 'Illuminati,' whose Plan is to overturn all Government and all Religion, even natural."] http://www.consource.org/index.asp?bid=582&fid=600&documentid=56418 G. W. Snyder to George Washington (August 22, 1798) Certified: Yes Volume: The Papers of George Washington: Retirement Series, 2 Pages: 554-557 Frederick-Town (Maryland) Augt 22. 1798.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. i thought it was three in PA?
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. oh really? Does this author contend that ''international bankers'' and 'zionists' are completely unrelated?
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. I didnt say they never existed. It's a historical fact that they did. Now prove they exist now, as part of an UNBROKEN organizational chain from the mid 1700's (or earlier if you believe Icke and others). It cant be done and there is no reason for it to be so. The "Illuminati" isnt needed. All you need are a group of psychopaths (not name calling here but literal psychopaths) to take advantage of the situation and they dont need to cooperate with each other as part of any conspiracy to end all conspiracies. Now, who's right? You could be right, but I'm not convinced anymore that they do still exist. To me this is all a distraction, to keep people focused on senseless fables and not on what is really happening to this planet. Research psychopaths if you dont know about them. You will recognize them and what they do. . .
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I think when people realize what is happening in 2009 and research it, the topic invariably leads to broader questions about it's history and implications, and upon such research, peoples religious beliefs then inevitably enter the pitcure. that's when it's time to step away and let them figure out their own solution according to their conscience, in my opinion, as I don't like bickering with people about religion. then you move onto the next person and so it goes. it's fun though. ;-)
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. It can be. But nothing will lead to more name calling and general hatred, IMO. Not even going against Alex Jones will bring out that kind of hatred ;) I dont know why I, and others see things and other people dont, and they actively refuse to even look. The Gospel is really good news for all, not just a very few. But it has been twisted into Really Bad News For Most and Really Good News For a Very Very Few. . .
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Actually I would be surprised to see a Federal push for gun control if but for the reason I know the Obama Administration is not going to waste political capital on a spectrum of right to bear arms issues that would hurt far more then it would help them with anybody. It would bring no one on board politically, it would just be a lose lose situation. If this generates legislation, it will be done at a local level. This is interesting a situation though as it has been fasinating to watch how this guy's old home forum is reacting to it. I sure would like to see what they are saying about it in the closed portion of the shit pile that place is. You know they can't be happy about this and I'm sure they expect heat from the powers that be using this as a crowbar to get at them. I expect this to cause Storm Front more grief then it does the right to keep and bear arms.
Yeah, not to mention the burden it would place on life insurance providers and casket manufacturers..
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the ferret appears to be rationalizing to avoid cognitive dissonance about his pal, barry, again.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON. It's over. Last one here turn out the lights.
Posting about me and not to 'the ferret' is avoidance, so guess you should know, Indie-o. How's tricks?
#2. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
But yeah, the gun grabbers have their talking points; hate speech and additional gun legislation is in order. They're as predictable as a sea of red flags on May day.
#3. To: Jethro Tull, christine, Original_Intent, lodwick, rotara (#1)
In the wake of the violence in Pittsburgh earlier today, the pro-Obama liberal blogs are blaming those of us who support the Second Amendment for the murder of four police officers.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#4. To: christine, Jethro Tull (#2)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#5. To: farmfriend (#3)
#6. To: All (#0)
#7. To: farmfriend (#4)
Nice to know we are on the same page though.
#8. To: christine (#0)
#9. To: christine (#6)
the very cornerstone of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#10. To: Sam Houston (#8)
Under the so-called "Law of Attraction," they may well eventually experience what they sometimes so desperately seem to desire.
#11. To: christine (#0)
Liberals need to realize that Obama is merely a front man for a cartel of international bankers. His assignment is to grease the skids for the implementation of world government. Included in that agenda is the ongoing effort to outlaw and eventually confiscate all firearms and militarize police around the country.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#12. To: Sam Houston (#8)
I still think the federal government will not be able to recruit enough short-bus riders to go door-to-door attempting to confiscate firearms, though. It didn't even really try very hard to do that in Iraq.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#13. To: christine (#6)
It's a very deadly game they're playing.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#14. To: christine (#0)
Neiwert may want to put aside the partisan zeal
Lord Acton
#15. To: Sam Houston (#8)
"Law of Attraction,"
#16. To: christine (#0)
...in support of the Second Amendment have a right to fear his agenda.
#17. To: christine, all (#6)
In the meantime, we can expect the Obama libs to continue their demonization of those of us who not only value and support the Second Amendment – the very cornerstone of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights – but also those of us who realize government invariably plots against liberty and eventually enslaves the masses, as a glance at the last century reveals.
----Benjamin Franklin
----John Adams 
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#18. To: Sam Houston, all, rotara, CHRISTINE, psusa, jethro tull, farmfriend, redpanther (#8)
(Edited)
---------"V"
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#19. To: IndieTX (#18)
#20. To: IndieTX, All (#18)
#21. To: PSUSA, christine, all (#19)
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#22. To: christine (#0)
#23. To: alpowolf (#22)
#24. To: alpowolf (#22)
I also note that the favorite proposals--such as federal registration--if in force today wouldn't have prevented the incidents that supposedly prove that we "need" said proposed laws.
#25. To: christine (#24)
what? we need more than 20,000? ;)
#26. To: IndieTX (#21)
(Edited)
"V" was addressing the general adult population, past and present, all of whom bore some responsibility for the predicament and its unmolested continuation. The responsibility for the continuation of Freedom was clearly placed upon the shoulders of future generations by the Founding Fathers.
#27. To: PSUSA (#26)
It's not a big "illuminati" conspiracy that's responsible for this mess
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#28. To: christine (#0)
for the murder of four police officers.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#29. To: christine (#0)
and his reference to the “Zionist government” in the video linked above — are completely irrelevant to the fact the government is in the business of attacking the Second Amendment and incrementally establishing a police state
Liberals need to realize that Obama is merely a front man for a cartel of international bankers. His assignment is to grease the skids for the implementation of world government
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#30. To: Artisan (#27)
of course it is. it wasnt random starting in the 60's or in 1913, even george washington himself in letters at the library of congress specifically admit the ILLUMINATE CONSPIRACY. even fag devil worshipper ben franklin, viewed as a 'hero' of most murikans had at least 10 bodies buried under his house, 6 of them children (reported by BCC). of course they probably just got lost under there while loooking for a frisbee or something. it's all a coincidence. //
#31. To: PSUSA (#30)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#32. To: Artisan (#31)
it's fun though. ;-)
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
(Edited)
#34. To: Ferret Mike (#33)
Actually I would be surprised to see a Federal push for gun control if but for the reason I know the Obama Administration is not going to waste political capital on a spectrum of right to bear arms issues that would hurt far more then it would help them with anybody.
#35. To: PSUSA (#34)
Actually I would be surprised to see a Federal push for gun control if but for the reason I know the Obama Administration is not going to waste political capital on a spectrum of right to bear arms issues that would hurt far more then it would help them with anybody.
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#36. To: IndieTX (#35)
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