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Title: The End of Christian America
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Time
URL Source: http://www.newsweek.com/id/192583/page/1
Published: Apr 5, 2009
Author: Jon Meacham
Post Date: 2009-04-05 17:32:37 by robnoel
Keywords: None
Views: 621
Comments: 6
I have no ax to grind with Jon Meacham I actually like the guy however he like many other's some say 70 million of them have failed to recognize and or admit to is the effects of Zionist indoctrination.It was only a matter of time before many so called Christians payed the price for blind support of Israel.This article may go a long way in waking up the sheep Every Wednesday I speak with Charles Carlson of "STRAIT GATE MINISTRIES" his mission statement states Our mission is to rescue followers of Christ from the apostasy called Christian-Zionism. We reach out to the "lost sheep" inside our churches who do not know they are lost. They will remain lost if they listen only to their apostate religious leaders. Our purpose is to point the ancient way to the "Strait Gate."* Christian-Zionism, by whatever name, is not that path and is purely a political movement. We would turn Christ followers to Peacemakers, away from the evil of warring on behalf of Israel, or for any other foreign state. We humbly believe God must see Christian-Zionism as the vilest apostasy in the 2000 year history of Christianity. Its sly forerunner goes by the name of Judeo-Christianity, also an oxymoron. The End of Christian America By Jon Meacham | NEWSWEEK Published Apr 4, 2009 The percentage of self-identified Christians has fallen 10 points in the past two decades. How that statistic explains who we are now—and what, as a nation, we are about to become. It was a small detail, a point of comparison buried in the fifth paragraph on the 17th page of a 24-page summary of the 2009 American Religious Identification Survey. But as R. Albert Mohler Jr.—president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, one of the largest on earth—read over the document after its release in March, he was struck by a single sentence. For a believer like Mohler—a starched, unflinchingly conservative Christian, steeped in the theology of his particular province of the faith, devoted to producing ministers who will preach the inerrancy of the Bible and the Gospel of Jesus Christ as the only means to eternal life—the central news of the survey was troubling enough: the number of Americans who claim no religious affiliation has nearly doubled since 1990, rising from 8 to 15 percent. Then came the point he could not get out of his mind: while the unaffiliated have historically been concentrated in the Pacific Northwest, the report said, "this pattern has now changed, and the Northeast emerged in 2008 as the new stronghold of the religiously unidentified." As Mohler saw it, the historic foundation of America's religious culture was cracking. "That really hit me hard," he told me last week. "The Northwest was never as religious, never as congregationalized, as the Northeast, which was the foundation, the home base, of American religion. To lose New England struck me as momentous." Turning the report over in his mind, Mohler posted a despairing online column on the eve of Holy Week lamenting the decline—and, by implication, the imminent fall—of an America shaped and suffused by Christianity. "A remarkable culture-shift has taken place around us," Mohler wrote. "The most basic contours of American culture have been radically altered. The so-called Judeo-Christian consensus of the last millennium has given way to a post-modern, post-Christian, post-Western cultural crisis which threatens the very heart of our culture." When Mohler and I spoke in the days after he wrote this, he had grown even gloomier. "Clearly, there is a new narrative, a post-Christian narrative, that is animating large portions of this society," he said from his office on campus in Louisville, Ky. Continue
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#1. To: robnoel (#0)
I don't think any of the political Christians realize they are in error about Zionism to this day. They are still happy to be warmongers, especially when it involves bombing the Islamics, whether the latter did anything to them or not. The lament detailed in the article relates more to their failure to influence the culture within this country. And they have UTTERLY FAILED to connect with those under about the age of 40. So their days are numbered as more and more of the elderly "social conservatives" depart this vale of tears.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Apocalyptic fetishism for Israel among evangelicals is pretty comparable to the fetishism for Rome among Roman Catholics. Many of us expected this sour end for the evangelicals. They've always had a wacky streak, never seem to learn anything when their last little enthusiasm ends with a preacher in sex scandals or complete idiocy of some kind. Of course, religious hobbies for remote places is far easier and more fun than observing the Ten Commandments and living by scripture.
I DON'T think like most people who report on this in the "news" that the people polling as "unaffiliated" are neccessarily Atheists. Many of them may be Universalist Trinitartian Christians like myself who refuse to affiliate any longer with the "Christian" Zionist, Rapture Monkey, Turn or Burn (hell for this and hell for that) churches that represent "Christianity" today.
What actions in our past prove we are "an America shaped and suffused by Christianity." "We humbly believe God must see Christian-Zionism as the vilest apostasy in the 2000 year history of Christianity." That's not even close to being true.
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Thats his opinion of Zionism you either agree with or not ....as for "What actions in our past prove we are "an America shaped and suffused by Christianity." .....Jeffersons bible ends that debate
They usually break down the poll into options like unaffiliated, and separate categories for nonreligious, atheist and agnostic. Those who say they are unaffiliated are believers and are counted. What the numbers don't show is the number of people who claim a religion yet don't really believe its tenants, follow the rules, or actively worship. The vast majority of Christians I meet consider themselves Christians because they celebrate Christmas and Easter. And by celebrate I don't even mean go to church, just have a party. Look at our culture, the actions of the masses, and you can't say Americans are christian. The average person doesn't attend church, follow the rules, doesn't pray (unless they are panicked and are desperate). Americans lead their lives without god. The only thing that is keeping religion alive in America is because for the longest time it was socially unacceptable to not have a religion (even if it was only for show). But once that impediment is brought down, and it already is for generation y, religious affiliation will drop like a rock.
#2. To: Sam Houston (#1)
#3. To: robnoel (#0)
Oh what a DUFFLE-HEAD that Barack Obama is !!! Duffle-Head (As used in a Felix the Cat cartoon) A wicked person of limited intelegence but with pretenses of intelectual grandeur. Their only successful endevors are usually the invention of self punishment machines.
#4. To: robnoel (#0)
#5. To: PSUSA (#4)
"We humbly believe God must see Christian-Zionism as the vilest apostasy in the 2000 year history of Christianity."
#6. To: Coral Snake (#3)
I DON'T think like most people who report on this in the "news" that the people polling as "unaffiliated" are neccessarily Atheists.
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