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Title: The Essential Revolutionary Idea
Source: 4m
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Published: Apr 7, 2009
Author: Deasy
Post Date: 2009-04-07 07:26:31 by Deasy
Keywords: None
Views: 373
Comments: 29

Think back to the year 1775. The anniversary is coming up again on April the 19th. You remember. It's not September 11, which is our new so-called Patriot day according to House Joint Resolution 71. Why did the Minutemen go out to confront the British? What forced their hands and drove them to stand and die?

The shot that was heard around the world was fired because the Minutemen and their families thought they would never be free of abusive British control unless they took up arms to decide the issue. What could make them do this? The British were their business partners and military allies. The king had given them their lands. Why bite the hand that fed them?

To understand their outrage, we need to consider the terms life, liberty, and property. Enough Americans held these sacred that a war was started when property and liberty was threatened. Then in those times, life and liberty were understood to be the same thing. Today, the majority of Americans would think these ideas were wild and dangerous, wouldn't they? But that's what American colonists figured: when the British taxed and disarmed them, they were taking their lives too.

Today, with congress lining the pockets of Wall Street with our future prosperity, can we say that we are free? With an economy so controlled that detail after detail are managed by government offices and regulations, is property a useful word still? With wars being started and fought far away over mistaken threats while our own borders go undefended, are our lives safe?

If you agree with how your tax dollars are being spent, you may still want to consider what I am saying. What if you did not agree? Put yourself in the shoes of Americans who disagree with the war, or resent the intelligence complex's growing awareness of individual Americans.

What if you disagreed?

You couldn't do anything to stop it, could you? At least you might understand just how powerful the United States federal government has become. Those who oppose its actions in foreign wars, taxation, social policy, and the gradual loss individual liberties believe that American government is out of control and heading in the wrong direction.

The battles of Lexington and Concord were fought over much less.

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#1. To: Deasy (#0)

The battles of Lexington and Concord were fought over much less.

The pioneers that fought the elements and built this country brick by brick are being ignored, their descendants robbed of their birthright while criminals are coddled and rewarded for their crimes.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-04-07   7:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deasy (#0)

Well said - thank you.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-04-07   10:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deasy (#0) (Edited)

I believe we could end this all in a week. Rebuilding will suck though.

We know we are not working alone in any AO.

We're just waiting for the shot heard round the world, part II. We have the moral high ground here and will not just give it up.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-07   10:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#2)

How to get it done -

New Direction for any war: Send Service Vets over 60!

I am over 60 and theïr Armed Forces thinks I'm too old to track down terrorists. You can't be older than 42 to join the military. They've got the whole thing ass-backwards. Instead of sending 18-year olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn't be able to join a military unit until you're at least 35.

For starters: Researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds. Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more than 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy. Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a dangerous soldier.. 'My back hurts!I can't sleep, I'm tired and hungry'. We are impatient and maybe letting us kill some asshole that desperately deserves it will make us feel better and shut us up for a while.

An 18-year-old doesn't even like to get up before 10 a.m. Old guys always get up early to pee so what the hell. Besides, like I said, 'I'm tired and can't sleep and since I'm already up, I may as well be up killing some fanatical s-of-a-b....

If captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.

Boot camp would be easier for old guys. We're used to getting screamed and yelled at and we're used to soft food. We've also developed an appreciation for guns. We've been using them for years as an excuse to get out of the house, away from the screaming and yelling.

They could lighten up on the obstacle course however. I've been in combat and didn't see a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do any pushups after completing basic training. Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy, too. I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet.

An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him. He's still learning to shave, to start up a conversation with a pretty girl. He still hasn't figured out that a baseball cap has a brim to shade his eyes, not the back of his head.

These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more about life before sending them off into harm's way. Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten coward terrorists. The last thing an enemy would want to see is a couple of million pissed off old farts with attitudes and automatic weapons who know that their best years are already behind them.

***How about recruiting Women over 50 ....with PMS !!! You think Men have attitudes !!! Ohhhhhhhhhhhh my God!!! If nothing else, put us on border patrol.....we will have it secured the first night!

(Written by an old fart who didn't give his name)

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-04-07   10:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lodwick (#4)

LOL. That's good! Only one problem. Once they get going it would be hard to tell them to stop.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-04-07   13:34:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deasy (#0)

we need to consider the terms life, liberty, and property.

property is not listed in the Declaration of Independence. instead the wording is pursuit of happiness. property of course is real and concrete while pursuit of happiness is an idea that is completely subjective. property is the most important right because we cannot have life or liberty if we do not have private property. we would always be on someone else's property, correct? i understand the word property was in the original document. do you know who changed it and when?

christine  posted on  2009-04-11   13:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: James Deffenbach (#6)

ping

christine  posted on  2009-04-11   13:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#7)

Why was Thomas Jeffersons phrase. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of property" Changed to Happiness?

"Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" versus "Life, Liberty [and] Property"

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-11   13:57:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lodwick (#4)

That's some funny stuff. Thanks for posting it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-11   13:59:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lodwick (#4)

Service Vets over 60

Indeed. The military needs more drone aircraft pilots, and they can do it from the US.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2009-04-11   14:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: James Deffenbach (#8)

July 4, 2001. The Declaration of Independence proclaimed "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" to be inalienable rights, but the Bill of Rights changed the phrase to "life, liberty and property." 1 The intrinsic, emotional desirability of the pursuit of happiness virtually guaranteed its widespread acceptance as a goal of the revolution and enhanced the slogan's motivational effect. In contrast, a common-sense understanding of property as an essential element of "liberty" required rational analysis making it unlikely for such concept to gain widespread understanding. Including "pursuit of happiness" in the revolutionary slogan was redundant but useful, and omitting it from the Bill of Rights subtracted nothing from the concept of "liberty." Inclusion of "property" in the revolutionary slogan was not necessary, nor would it have inspired revolutionary fervor, but the absence of a widespread common-sense understanding of it as an essential component of "liberty" made its inclusion in the Bill of Rights necessary. (.back to top.)

From your link. Thank you.

christine  posted on  2009-04-11   18:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: James Deffenbach, Deasy (#8)

Part of the solution is to clarify what these terms MEANT to Locke and the founding fathers -- neither the mention of "property" nor of "happiness" means quite what WE tend to think.

By "property," Locke meant MORE than land and goods that could be sold, given away, or even confiscated by the government under certain circumstances. Property also referred to ownership of one's self, which included A RIGHT TO PERSONAL WELL BEING. Jefferson, however, substituted the phrase, "pursuit of happiness," which Locke and others had used to describe FREEDOM OF OPPORTUNITY as well as the duty to help those in want.

the part I bolded...very important as without ownership of one's self and one's own land, life and liberty are unobtainable. Our life and liberty are at the mercy of someone else.

christine  posted on  2009-04-11   18:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#12)

Our life and liberty are at the mercy of someone else.

The thinking American colonists would have felt enslaved, and dead to the world. They would not have had an ounce of respect for themselves if they had endured what we have.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-11   18:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine (#11)

From your link. Thank you.

You are most welcome.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-11   18:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#12)

the part I bolded...very important as without ownership of one's self and one's own land, life and liberty are unobtainable. Our life and liberty are at the mercy of someone else.

Yes. And the founders would have rebelled long ago--can you imagine some nitwit cop or bureaucrat telling those guys they had to have a "license" to go anywhere on their horses? And yet, what is a car but an updated horse? A horse in their time was a means to travel, just as cars are today.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-11   18:31:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: James Deffenbach (#15)

The "Patriot Acts" alone would have triggered an immediate response by the Minutemen.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-11   18:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Deasy (#16)

The "Patriot Act" would have gotten those who voted for it and signed for it killed back in the days of the founders. Not that very many of them would have signed or voted in favor of such a thing.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-11   18:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: James Deffenbach (#17)

Given our inability to protect our own freedoms, how can we "liberate" Iraq or Afghanistan? How dare we claim to be superior to any third world or "old European" country? After all, the Mideast is structured around Anglo-American imposed borders. The New World Order is American. There is a universalism in the fabric of our culture that brought this on.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-11   19:00:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Deasy (#18)

Given our inability to protect our own freedoms, how can we "liberate" Iraq or Afghanistan?

Good point. People who are slaves aren't very likely going to "liberate" other slaves.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-11   19:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: James Deffenbach (#19)

Not unless their masters seek more lands and more subjects.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-11   19:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Deasy, James Deffenbach (#18)

The New World Order is American.

Not really. It was begun by Europeans.

1773 - Mayer Amschel Rothschild assembles twelve of his most influential friends, and convinces them that if they all pool their resources together, they can rule the world. This meeting takes place in Frankfurt, Germany. Rothschild also informs his friends that he has found the perfect candidate, an individual of incredible intellect and ingenuity, to lead the organization he has planned – Adam Weishaupt.

http://www.michaeljournal.org/nwo1.htm

litus  posted on  2009-04-11   19:10:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: litus (#21) (Edited)

Someone else may have influenced it, but it's our might that enforces it. If you ask me, that's the ultimate form of slavery. Yet Americans congratulate themselves as "superior" and consider themselves as "moral leaders" in the world. They preach that their highly regulated, centrally controlled economic system is the example by which every market struggling to be "free" should be judged. Evangelicals send out missionaries to the world to "enlighten" them and "bring them to our understanding of faith."

Sheer hypocrisy.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-11   19:13:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Deasy (#22)

The Europeans did much more than influence it. They crafted it and brought it over here, through Europeans, in various ways.

It remains strong and in force because of it having done an excellent job at recruitment and operating in the shadows, gaining power and money, from all countries.

Most globalists in power remain in Europe. They don't need standing armies; mercenaries work quite well, as well as assassinations, threats thereof, and government bribery.

With a now willing and subservient group and body of politicians, placed globally, they don't need military backing to force anything. The bought and paid for politicians have paved the way.

It will be the UN which likely will later take on any military roles. At least, that is my opinion at the moment (though they are apparently trying to work on our military to turn against us).

litus  posted on  2009-04-11   19:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: litus (#21)

"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws." Mayer Amschel Rothschild, 1790

The History of Money, Rothschild Banking

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-11   19:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: James Deffenbach (#24)

"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws." Mayer Amschel Rothschild, 1790

Exactly!

litus  posted on  2009-04-11   19:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: litus (#23)

Most globalists in power remain in Europe.

Globalists think locally but act globally. In other words, they work with what they have. The UN itself is weak. It's control over global commerce that concentrates power. Think world central banking and SDRs, or special drawing rights. Think global currency. Think a Global Reserve bank with the power to dominate all paper currencies.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-11   19:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deasy, TwentyTwelve (#26)

Globalists think locally but act globally. In other words, they work with what they have.

Um...not quite. They are more like a crafty octopus, and make sure their tentacles reach into every crevice....all through and by design.

I think that TwentyTwelve may be able to steer you in the right direction much better than me.

litus  posted on  2009-04-11   19:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: litus (#27)

Whoever they are, we just let them soak the world's streets, deserts, and jungles with the blood of our troops, and line their pockets with the transfer of our wealth. It's weak, I say. We have no business claiming to be superior to anyone at this point. Our system is weak. Our values are weak. We're nothing like the original revolutionaries. It wouldn't take geniuses to figure out how to control us. All they had to do was own 51% of our media in conglomerates. Now they even tell us how to vote.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-11   19:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Deasy (#28)

We're nothing like the original revolutionaries.

No, we aren't. Control? That first started with the establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank (thanks to European Paul Warburg and traitor for a president Wilson, along with Aldrich), and the globalists scheming to take over the newspapers...this is way before there was a "media conglomerate".

litus  posted on  2009-04-11   19:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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