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Title: FBI Believed that Bombs Were Used on 9/11
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://georgewashington2.blogspot.c ... d-that-911-involved-bombs.html
Published: Feb 10, 2009
Author: George Washington's Blog
Post Date: 2009-04-07 20:53:04 by Itistoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 484
Comments: 32

Tuesday, February 10, 2009

FBI Believed that Bombs Were Used on 9/11

On 9/11, the FBI believed that bombs were involved in the attacks.

How do I know that?

Because, according to the FBI's website:

Following the massive terrorist attacks against New York and Washington, the FBI dedicated 7,000 of its 11,000 Special Agents and thousands of FBI support personnel to the PENTTBOM investigation. "PENTTBOM" is short for Pentagon, Twin Towers Bombing.

(see also this and this).

Indeed, the FBI told a reporter for USA Today that FBI agents believed there were bombs in the Twin Towers.

Similarly, the Washington Post believed that bombs were involved, as reflected in a September 21, 2001 article containing the following phrase:

In the hours after Tuesday's bombings . . . .

Many firefighters and policemen also said there were bombs in the Twin Towers.

And perhaps "the premiere collapse expert in the country", who 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer referred to as a "very, very respected expert on building collapse", the head of the New York Fire Department's Special Operations Command and the most highly decorated firefighter in its NYFD history, who had previously "commanded rescue operations at many difficult and complex disasters, including the Oklahoma City Bombing, the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, and many natural disasters worldwide" thought that the collapse of the South Tower was caused by bombs, because the collapse of the building was too even to have been caused by anything else (pages 5-6).

But surely experts have since proven that no bombs were involved. Right?

In fact, structural engineers, architects, scientists and demolition experts and other high-level experts have examined the evidence and think that there were bombs.

Even the former head of the Fire Science Division of the government agency which claims that the World Trade Centers collapsed due to fire, who is one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering (Dr. James Quintiere) doesn't bevelieve an adequate investigation into 9/11 has been conducted. He has called for an independent review of the World Trade Center Twin Tower collapse investigation. "I wish that there would be a peer review of this," he said, referring to the NIST investigation. "I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they've done; both structurally and from a fire point of view. ... I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable."

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#1. To: All (#0)

see the source for many links

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-04-07   20:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Excellent. Thanks for posting that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-07   21:19:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

the FBI told a reporter for USA Today that FBI agents believed there were bombs in the Twin Towers.

ping!

litus  posted on  2009-04-07   21:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: litus (#3)

ping!

Thanks.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-07   21:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TwentyTwelve, litis, James Deffenbach (#4)

FBI: Bin Laden Not Wanted for 9/11?

www.milligazette.com/dail...612_bin_laden_911_fbi.htm

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-04-07   21:30:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Itistoolate (#5)

11 June 2006

The FBI's "Most Wanted Terrorists" web page does not state that Bin Laden is wanted for the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The FBI page states: "Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world."

When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on the FBI's web page, Rex Tomb of the FBI's public affairs unit is reported to have said, "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."

very interesting. I hadn't read that before. Thanks!

litus  posted on  2009-04-07   21:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: James Deffenbach, Itistoolate (#2)

Old URLs can be searched at at the Internet Archive. www.archive.org so we can see these old reports that have been scrubbed from their current website.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2009-04-07   21:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Itistoolate (#5)

Thanks for the link. Here is a telling excerpt:

"On September 20 2001," according to the Guardian, "the Taliban offered to hand Osama bin Laden to a neutral Islamic country for trial if the US presented them with evidence that he was responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington. The US rejected the offer."

On September 23, 2001 the BBC reported that four of the hijack "suspects" - Waleed Al Shehri, Abdulaziz Al Omari, Saeed Alghamdi, and possibly Khalid Al Midhar - were alive, and that FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged "the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt."

Bin Laden, in a September 28, 2001 interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat, is reported to have said: "I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States."

Skeptics dismiss the video tape "found in a house in Jalalabad", Afghanistan, which allegedly shows Bin Laden confessing to the September 11 attacks. In a December 20, 2001, broadcast by German TV channel Das Erste "two independent translators and an expert on oriental studies found the White House's translation not only to be inaccurate, but manipulative."

FBI Director Robert Mueller, in a speech at the Commonwealth Club on April 19, 2002, said: "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper - either here in the United States, or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere - that mentioned any aspect of the September 11 plot."

The evidence against Bin Laden, promised by Secretary of State Colin Powell on September 23, 2001, has yet to be made available to the public.


Check that first paragraph carefully. The US declined the offer. Why? Because Osama was one of the best enemies money could buy.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-07   21:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Horse (#7)

Thanks Horse. Appreciate it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-07   21:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TwentyTwelve (#4)

yw, TT.

litus  posted on  2009-04-07   21:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#0)

perhaps "the premiere collapse expert in the country", who 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer referred to as a "very, very respected expert on building collapse", the head of the New York Fire Department's Special Operations Command and the most highly decorated firefighter in its NYFD history, who had previously "commanded rescue operations at many difficult and complex disasters, including the Oklahoma City Bombing, the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, and many natural disasters worldwide" thought that the collapse of the South Tower was caused by bombs, because the collapse of the building was too even to have been caused by anything else (pages 5-6).

In the interest of education, of course, you are pinged.

What has .gov got scripted for you as the "appropriate" response? Let me guess....the pat answer: "This is just another liar and conspiracy theorist writing an article"?

litus  posted on  2009-04-07   22:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Itistoolate, TwentyTwelve (#5)

Skeptics dismiss the video tape "found in a house in Jalalabad", Afghanistan, which allegedly shows Bin Laden confessing to the September 11 attacks. In a December 20, 2001, broadcast by German TV channel Das Erste "two independent translators and an expert on oriental studies found the White House's translation not only to be inaccurate, but manipulative."

This reminds me of Sibel Edmonds, and some of her comments concerning translators....[I was just perusing the thread just linked to by her name and it appears that members of this forum discount her...in any event, the above comments still reminds me of some comments she made regarding the difficulties and ineptness of translations made by this country around 2001 of the Middle Eastern language (Arabic in particular, I guess), and for that reason, I am posting an excerpt]:

March 2007

Sibel Edmonds: There needs to be a brief explanation - three years before I took that job, I was doing my studies in forensic science and criminal justice, and I had applied for an internship position with the FBI, not a full time or permanent job position, and at that point they were interested in my language skills, but they basically messed it up. I sent them the application, I took the polygraph test for that internship position for their language department, and somehow in 1999 they lost all that information - not only mine, but from 150 other applicants they had for language specialist positions. These documents, these files were lost within the FBI - or at least that's the explanation they gave to these applicants.

And then the 911 terrorist event took place and I'd turn on the TV and kept hearing the Director of the FBI pleading for language specialists - especially for the languages that I speak - because they were desperate for language specialists. And at that point it was a duty to go and say "Look - I have these skills, you need these skills for the nation, and I'm offering it to you." So I took this position as a contract language specialist for those languages and my top secret clearance was issued and I started working five days after 911.

David Swanson: And they were in pretty bad shape, right? How many skilled translators of Turkish materials did they have at that point?

Sibel Edmonds: At that point they had no Turkish language specialists... In fact, they had an unofficial division for years, and they had people coming, on and off, from DOD, or the State Department on loan, and working on certain projects, but they did not even have a formal division for Turkish. They had a small division for Arabic language, and they also had a large division for Farsi - the language spoken in Iran. [cont'd.]

litus  posted on  2009-04-07   22:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: litus (#12)

Kill_The_Messenger
04/24/06 "The American Conservative" -- -- Sibel Edmonds, the Turkish FBI translator turned whistleblower who has been subjected to a gag order could ...
justacitizen.com/KillTheMessenger.html - 19k - Cached

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-07   22:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: litus (#12)

YouTube - Sibel Edmonds PEN Newman Award
No retreat, no surrender, Sibel. Congrats on the PEN Newman Award. ... PEN American Center has named Sibel Edmo PEN American Center has named Sibel Edmonds, ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X39zdgXSqs - 81k - Cached - Similar pages

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-07   22:54:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: litus (#12)

Assuming that the allegations made by Sibel Edmonds are true and government officials are covering up evidence, a serious breach of trust has taken place. Individuals or organizations that played a role in the 9/11 attacks should be immediately brought to justice and government officials attempting to obstruct justice should be thrown in prison.

Project For A New American Revolution
The terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 may prove to be the most significant event to occur in American history since Pearl Harbor. ...
www.pnar.org/edmonds.htm - 23k - Cached

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-07   22:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TwentyTwelve (#13)

Kill_The_Messenger

I believe that concerning her. I, personally, don't discount her, but it appears many on this forum have/do. Nevertheless, for even those who dismiss her claims, her statements concerning the translation incapabilities should be accepted, at least, at face value. I believe her assessments concerning that are true and believable....would that someone prove otherwise, I would be willing to read statements made that contradicts hers.

litus  posted on  2009-04-07   22:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TwentyTwelve (#15)

Individuals or organizations that played a role in the 9/11 attacks should be immediately brought to justice and government officials attempting to obstruct justice should be thrown in prison.

I agree with you completely.

litus  posted on  2009-04-07   23:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Are we still trying to believe this government ??? Haven't we witnessed enough fraud and deception to satisfy our senses ? I do not think any further debate will accomplish anything when it's all too obvious that we've been fed bullshit from the time we were born until this moment.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-04-08   4:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Itistoolate (#0)

On 9/11, the FBI believed that bombs were involved in the attacks.

And everyone I spoke with firmly believed that Saddam Huessein was involved...

And I got a phone call on 9/12 telling me to stay in my hous because the NYPD was chasing a car full of Al Qaeda in my neighborhood...

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war (#19)

And everyone I spoke with firmly believed that Saddam Huessein was involved...

Which dept of the Pentagon was that?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-08   12:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TwentyTwelve (#20)

Which dept of the Pentagon was that?

The same one that tickles the "stupid" circuit in your brain daily via remote control.

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: war (#21)

Which dept of the Pentagon was that?

The same one that tickles the "stupid" circuit in your brain daily via remote control.

You are the one "programmed", not me.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-08   12:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war (#19)

Please site the news story you are talking about. Never heard of that one.

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-04-08   12:27:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Itistoolate (#23)

Please site the news story you are talking about. Never heard of that one.

In your Bizzaro World if it isn't reported on the news it didn't happen and if it IS reported in the news then it DID happen?

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TwentyTwelve (#22)

Sputter much?

oops...that's a question...guess you won't answer it...

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war (#24)

In your Bizzaro World if it isn't reported on the news it didn't happen..

Huh?

You are the one in denial of the 911 gag orders.

Who taught you to doublespeak?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-08   12:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: TwentyTwelve (#26)

You are the one in denial of the 911 gag orders.

What gag orders?

Ooops...another question...

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: TwentyTwelve (#26)

Who taught you to doublespeak?

It's not acquired...

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: war (#27)

You are the one in denial of the 911 gag orders.

What gag orders?

Ooops...another question...

You said: "if it isn't reported on the news it didn't happen".

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-08   12:38:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TwentyTwelve (#29)

You said: "if it isn't reported on the news it didn't happen".

Liar:

In your Bizzaro World if it isn't reported on the news it didn't happen and if it IS reported in the news then it DID happen?

war posted on 2009-04-08 12:32:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

war  posted on  2009-04-08   12:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#24)

Thanks for siting the article (/sarcasm)

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-04-08   13:18:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Itistoolate (#31)

In your Bizzaro World if it isn't reported on the news it didn't happen and if it IS reported in the news then it DID happen?

war  posted on  2009-04-08   15:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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